Satan IS real

a reply to: SeaWorthy

I've heard it called the small silent voice... conscience perhaps

Don't assume im an Atheist... far from it.

I just don't believe in fairy tales about the devil or hell... nothing but fear tactics which push Christianity

but again, to each their own

a reply to: St0rD

What are you talking about?

Porn is not a part of my life now, no. Good try though to lump me in with most people's problems.

But as to your question, yes. You will go into the kingdom naked and ashamed but it depends on your level of faith. If porn is your God, then serve that, if not then serve the Lord. I have struggled with it in the past, but it doesn't define me or my faith. in my weakness he is strong and in my strength, even then I can do nothing by myself. Being self condemned is worthless and unproductive. Sin does that to you though.

You overcome temptation with praise and study. The Lord has done it for me, and he will for you too.

You're simply leaning on yourself, good for you, it will end in tears.

originally posted by: Akragon
a reply to: St0rD

Satan is the love of materialism... its not an entity

Mostly all "evils" come from a love of materialism

If we are spirit and materialism is evil then we are literally existing in Hell. I reject your notion.

a reply to: Alien Abduct

Reject away...

this world seems pretty hellish IMHO

And "satan" fits the bill of materialism perfectly...

a reply to: Akragon

but im sure as hell not going to live my life worrying about an imaginary entity whispering in my ear

Sure as imaginary hell!

I have not found any organized group calling themselves a church that does not do something totally against the bible teachings itself.

I continue seeking and asking and pray I don't have hell proven to me or Satan by personally experience!
There are plenty of people who believe they died and experienced Heaven or Hell I guess the full facts are ...pending!

a reply to: SeaWorthy

There are people who will say just about anything to get people to believe what they do, even if its a complete lie... religion is a funny thing that way. Breaks the mind in some cases, and others it limits the ability to use critical thinking. Sometimes simple logic goes right out the window.

Fact is a fair and just God would not send his children to a "hell"

We all return to where we came from.... whatever that might be... sadly we're not allowed to remember

originally posted by: Akragon

Fact is a fair and just God would not send his children to a "hell"

I looked for "Hell" in the Bible, and concluded it is a 404. Not even the Lake of Fire is Hell, and the Bible does not ID it as such. You see, all fire mentioned in the Bible is either natural fire...or Godfire. Start at the burning bush and go from there, for FIRE is part of God's presense, not Satan's. In fact, there is NO connection between Satan and "Hell" at all.

a reply to: Lazarus Short

I've seen your thread... and i agree

a reply to: Klassified

Clearly religion is something you despise. I understand where you're coming from. Religion has been used as a weapon against us for a long time. Also, a lot of misinformation is being spread through the churches that's for sure.

It still doesn't change the fact there are genuine truths in religion. It's just being buried by all the lies. You have to look at it and filter what's making sense and what's not.

You go around everyday pretending God is not real and yet you don't realize the way it negatively affects you. If only you would change your perspective a little bit, maybe you would see reality for what it truly is.

You don't have to believe in God to be a healthy human being but if you truly want to evolve you gotta look at things the way they truly are. Just how sure are you that this is all fantasy?

Would you bet your life if you had to on that perspective of yours?

Seriously, it's time for critical thinking
instead of mental laziness

Why is it printed in the torah (old testament) :
"man has now become like one of us,
knowing good and evil.
He must not be allowed to reach out
and take also from the tree of life"

Think about that sentence^ for a moment.
I would think most people would see
"Knowing between good and evil" as a
good thing, according to a good conscience?
So why does the torah treat it with
contempt and disdain? ?
And "man has now become like one of us"
tells me the the "us" just wants
minions to be shells without a conscience.
For what propose ?
Does God really want us to be
like dumb zombies,MKUltra?
Really ?

as for o.p.'s question, definitely Yes !
Genesis+3:22


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a reply to: ToneDeaf

No.

When you don't know sin and the difference between right and wrong, you have a world everyone says they want. Free of pain and decay, free from the mires of temptation and violence.

When God says us, he's speaking to his council, the divine council. Can you imagine the horror caused if say Pol Pot or Hitler were immortal? Come on!

God will not force you to love him, you can choose. I'm an example.
But God also wont drag you into heaven, you'll get what you want, eternal separation. Be careful which one you want.

originally posted by: St0rD

originally posted by: KansasGirl
a reply to: St0rD

Evil is real. Satan is real.

What do you mean by that you will “have to let go of attachments” to get your place in heaven? That’s a Buddhist deal, the letting go of attachments. We are supposed to have some attachments- to people we love and to ideals and beliefs that are good.

I feel like we have to make sacrifices to get through heaven. The kind of sacrifice you would probably have a hard time to commit to.

A good example is Porn. When you get in front of God, how are you gonna justify all the deviant porn you have been consuming? I might be wrong but I'm pretty sure you cannot go to paradise if you are feeding evil willingfully. There must come a time when you make a choice and either feed evil or the contrary.
I'm not saying people will go to hell because they watch porn... my point is to be in paradise means to be perfect, kinda.
So we gotta work here in this reality and do what we believe to be right. God is patient as # but he has its limits.

About Porn, I got rid of it almost completely. It's evil and there is no denying that. Think about it mate.

I don’t watch porn, mate.

double post

originally posted by: Joneselius
a reply to: ToneDeaf

No.

When you don't know sin and the difference
between right and wrong,
you have a world everyone says they want.
Free of pain and decay, free from the mires
of temptation and violence.
Can you imagine the horror caused if say Pol Pot . . .

You contradicted yourself, or else
believe that ignorance is sinless.
Ignorance is not sinless on the contrary,
it is false to believe that ignorance
is 'the cats tail or bliss'
Btw
Pol Pot was evil because he was
ignorant of 'right from wrong'
Yet ignorance is not an excuse.
The promotion of mindless minions is just as evil.
So . . . Yes
demons are real

"man has now become like one of us,
knowing good and evil.
He must not be allowed to reach out
and take also from the tree of life"

Idk, it would make more sense to blame God for Satans flaws, since he would be a creation of his, an probably be one the first.

"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?"

Epicurus

You'd think he be more responsible creator or father for one his own children.

saturn's HEXAGON clouds on its poles.
david ickke does a big video on saturn.

originally posted by: Specimen88
Idk, it would make more sense to blame God for Satans flaws, since he would be a creation of his, an probably be one the first.

"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?"

Epicurus

You'd think he be more responsible creator or father for one his own children.

If you don't know God, then you can't know of what you speak. Your reasoning is based on your false perceptions.

You really can't figure out why God allows evil in the world?

It's so people can choose life over death or vice versa.
Every person can face accountability for the choices they make in their lives.

Life is a big test for your soul.

Satan is part of nature children. 😛

At least that’s what I think.

a reply to: NoCorruptionAllowed

Then who made Satan? Is God not the omniscient, or omnipotent creator to correct such an error in his infallible plan? And if his message is love, why put a Son of God in Hell, only for him to make an army out thin air, for some anti-climatic battle.

originally posted by: Specimen88
a reply to: NoCorruptionAllowed

Then who made Satan? Is God not the omniscient, or omnipotent creator to correct such an error in his infallible plan? And if his message is love, why put a Son of God in Hell, only for him to make an army out thin air, for some anti-climatic battle.

Your questions just show what a childish viewpoint you have. Do you honestly want to know these things? Seek yourself a relationship with the Lord and perhaps you can find out the truth of those things. No one can do it for you. You either really want to know, or you really don't.