Satan IS real

a reply to: St0rD
The Devil is no more real than the other countless deities and angels worshiped around the world. Gods are a human concept to fill in the gaps in our understanding. Neither is there such a thing as sin, unless you are talking about the moon god Sin or Nanna. It's just another word to enslave your thoughts and teach you self-loathing. Something religions excel at.

Please, be smarter than the ones who truly believe in nothing.

So now you're smarter because you're a believer. Something else religions excel at, smugness.

We are all gonna be judged in the end.

Yes we will, but not by a deity. You will be judged by those who knew you throughout your life. Each of them will have an opinion of you, but in death the only opinion of you that will matter is your own. So yes, do be at peace with yourself.

a reply to: Klassified

To be honest, yeah I think unbeliever are missing the point of this reality. I don't care about religions, I've just come to the realization that there are powerful truths somewhere in it behind all the bull#. If you truly defend the idea of the abscence of an intelligent design in the universe... well, come on man.

You don't have to believe in the gods of religions to realize there must be an intelligence behind all creation. Why do mankind always think they are so special? Acting like the miracle of intelligence and consciousness is something only us humans can experience. Just so you remember, we don't invent anything. We just discover what already exists. So where does intelligence comes from if it's only a gift given to us?

And btw, feel free to deny the existence of the Devil. I respect your opinion about it. But if he is real, you are likely being influenced by evil without even realizing it. So if you're right, no damage is done. If I'm right, you are setting yourself up for a massive deception.

Either way, I wish you the best

a reply to: St0rD

Erm.... John 14:6 Jesus said unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man comes unto the Father, but by me.

Ephesians 2:8. For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9 not by works, so that no one can boast.

It's simple for a reason. Your problem isn't with me, it's with the Bible.

NO ONE can boast, and actually believing what I typed is NOT easy, it's hard for the hard of heart.
Good works are added to you, for a reward, not your salvation. If you built your house on the solid foundation of Christ, even a tumultuous wave can't knock it down.

We don't go to Jesus for an 'easy life' we're promised persecution, but those who endure (this means keep their simple faith) will be saved. This IS the gospel. It really is, you don't need to add to it for your own justification, justification is not ours to give.

Also to your later point.

John 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
Then says
John 1:9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.....

Please stop making the gospel a struggle. The only struggle you'll have is how simple Christ made it because he LOVES you.

Could you describe your experience of Satan? Sincerely curious. Also don't waste your time with people who are only here to instigate, they do not care for open-minded discussion

a reply to: Joneselius

I don't buy it man.
Sure you have to honor faith but it's only the first step.

Believing isn't enough. This is a lie being put forward by the Vatican so people feel like they don't have to do anything but to believe. Even the second coming of Christ is shady. People are waiting to be "saved". I would be more open to the idea of the second coming being about the full realization of God's vision on Earth.

Personnal question-
Porn is probably a part of your life like most man... do you really believe that you can consume it forever without punishment from God? Like as long as you believe in Christ everything is gonna be forgiven?

Satan is real. He runs the media, and currencies. He is currently running a giant psyop in the US and abroad. He needs certain people to be in power, in order to strip all possessions and rights from humanity. Very soon, most people will accept his implant. By the time God steps in, death will be everywhere. In fact, scripture states, that if he didnt intervein, at that time, there would be no flesh left whatsoever.

Those who accept the chip/mark, will develop sores and pus filled boils all over their body. I suspect that the human body reacts with the synthesized Luciferase they will be using to power up the chip, off of the human body. Just like in a firefly, it reacts with magnesium and ATP in your body. Something in that implant is guaranteed to be ultra carcinogenic. Dont get it.

Be sure and vote for Lucifer, because he is so fun. The 3 red banners will guide you right to him.

I have come to the same conclusion the last few years. Politics has very little to do with what I mean. But yes I have come to accept that Satan is more than a metaphysical construct to define/personify evil.
He is an intelligent entity. It really is as simple as that. Science be damned.

"The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist"

Charles Baudelaire

Probably the best line ever written about the Devil.

a reply to: St0rD

The longer we cling to strong beliefs about the existence of pure evil, the more aggressive and antisocial we become. And we may be aggressing towards individuals who are, in fact, “redeemable.” Individuals who are not intrinsically and immutably motivated by the desire to intentionally cause harm to others. That may be the greatest trick the devil has ever pulled.

Dont let your belief in the devil to cause you to lose your humanity.

Hear, therefore, and fear, O Satan, enemy of the faith, foe to the human race, begetter of death, robber of life, corrupter of justice, root of all evil and vice, seducer of men, betrayer of nations, instigator of envy, procurer of sorrows, font of avarice, author of pain.

Why then, do you stand and resist, knowing that Christ the Lord will surely destroy thy strength?

Fear Him who was immolated in Isaac, sold in Joseph, slain in the lamb, crucified in man, and then was triumphant over death and hell.

It is hard for thee to wish to resist. It is hard for thee to kick against the pricks. Because the more slowly thou go out, the more the punishment against thee increases, since thou despises not men but Him who is Lord of the quick and the dead, who shall come to judge the quick and the dead, and the world by fire.

originally posted by: St0rD
So what if Satan is real? What would it mean for you guys and your perception of reality?

To 1 it just is another confirmation that LORD JESUS CHRIST is too real.
So I am good knowing the counter for shaitan(s) Exist and in turn conduct myself accordingly by FATHERS laws why in this dimension...

originally posted by: Akragon
a reply to: St0rD

Satan is the love of materialism... its not an entity

Mostly all "evils" come from a love of materialism

Ask someone who probably met him and has orders he must now follow.

The Devil is an actual person rather than a concept, Pope Francis has claimed.

Satan is smart and should not be argued with, the Pontiff told TV2000, a Catholic broadcasting network.

"This is evil, it is not a diffuse concept, it's a person," he said.

www.independent.co.uk...

I just learned that Origin of Babylon RAKI], literally “Gate of God”), so Babylon was building a gateway and it may have even taken them to the heavens so god scrambled their language and scattered them.
A site has been found where an ancient language existed and disappeared but the speakers of it continued spreading in all directions with new languages as could be told by their pottery and the gradual changes in it as the newly inhabited areas spread.
Watched it but have no link to the archeology site that said this. Interesting stuff!

originally posted by: beyondknowledge
a reply to: Akragon

A lot of people say money is the root of all evil. I put some money in salt and nothing happened. Should evil not have shriveled up and died? That is what happens when you put salt on plant roots.

No they say the love of money.

a reply to: SeaWorthy

Ask someone who probably met him and has orders he must now follow.

Weak minds follow blindly...

the OP claimed to have met him... not saying he didn't, but its hard to believe

Which ultimately equals to greed.
a reply to: SeaWorthy

originally posted by: Akragon
a reply to: SeaWorthy

Ask someone who probably met him and has orders he must now follow.

Weak minds follow blindly...

the OP claimed to have met him... not saying he didn't, but its hard to believe

Smart People continue to seek.
“Keep on asking, and you will receive what you ask for. Keep on seeking, and you will find. Keep on knocking, and the door will be opened to you.

I also know someone who believes she met him, whatever it was changed her forever! I think they are lower entities pretending to be their leader.

I think many people live each day with no thought as to what goes on in this universe that they don't know about, they have a very small view of all things and feel safe and comfortable by not looking deeper.

a reply to: SeaWorthy

yeah no need to start quoting the bible... i know all about it

People see things sometimes and assume its real... maybe it is, maybe it isn't... but im sure as hell not going to live my life worrying about an imaginary entity whispering in my ear

to each their own though

a reply to: St0rD

To be honest, yeah I think unbeliever are missing the point of this reality.

Who told you what the point of this reality is? Did whoever or whatever it was tell you the point for you, or everyone?

I don't care about religions

But they care about you. If you don't live the way they tell you, you'll go to hell. Ask them. They have God's own word to prove it. What makes your experience real and correct, and not theirs. One of you has to be wrong. You might be right, but what if you're wrong. Maybe you should believe their way and if it's wrong, no harm done, right?

If you truly defend the idea of the abscence of an intelligent design in the universe... well, come on man.

I didn't say any such thing, but why is intelligent design the only answer for what we do not understand? We're right back to the god of the gaps.

Why do mankind always think they are so special? Acting like the miracle of intelligence and consciousness is something only us humans can experience.

Because that's what many religious people believe their sacred texts teach. We were created by God, and are therefore special to him and unique in the universe.

So if you're right, no damage is done. If I'm right, you are setting yourself up for a massive deception.

This is called "Pascal's Wager". I also used it above in my reply. It has its fallacies. You might want to do a little research on it. You might find it interesting.

Either way, I wish you the best.

Same back to you.

originally posted by: Ophiuchus 13
Which ultimately equals to greed.
a reply to: SeaWorthy

I have always believed that Greed describes almost all if not all aspects of evil if we look closely we will see that but Satan has a prescience a plan, he holds a position powerful enough to offer control of the world to Jesus.

Math 4-1
8 Again, the devil took Him up on an exceedingly high mountain, and showed Him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory. 9 And he said to Him, “All these things I will give You if You will fall down and worship me.”

10 Then Jesus said to him, “Away with you, Satan! For it is written, ‘You shall worship the Lord your God, and Him only you shall serve.’ ”

As we examine the characteristics that the Bible attributes to the Devil, we obtain much insight into his character. We find the Scripture saying that he is proud, arrogant, powerful, cruel, fierce, deceitful, and subtle. In other words, he is total evil.

www.blueletterbible.org...

He is building an army, it is a real army and there will be a very real war.

originally posted by: Akragon
a reply to: SeaWorthy

yeah no need to start quoting the bible... i know all about it

People see things sometimes and assume its real... maybe it is, maybe it isn't... but im sure as hell not going to live my life worrying about an imaginary entity whispering in my ear

to each their own though

I guess I enjoy the bible, but we don't need it there is the message written in out minds and hearts as it says.
Why do people stop and feel something before they do something negative even when no one is watching? We have the truth in us and I don't worry about angels or God I feel safe, loved and don't fear what's coming because of them that's all.