Absolute Proof the Earth is Round NOT Flat!

originally posted by: AncientHeru
I’ve actually seen the firmament with my own two eyes.

No, you haven't. Unless you;re describing the metaphorical firmament of the sky above us and not a physical object.

Leonardo da Vinci “All sciences are vain and full of errors that are not born of Experience, the mother of all Knowledge.”

Scientific American disagrees with him

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Da Vinci did not have access to the kind of tools we now have. He was constrained by his senses. Science is not. Science also allows us to examine data and experience that we ourselves did not collect or experience, that's the point of it.

You guys can argue all you want with your books, your calculations and your theories, but at the end of the day you really have no idea because you haven’t experienced what your talking about.

Again, that's the point of the scientific method: relaible reporting of data from carefully constructed experiments reported accurately to the rest of the world, so that they can build on what you have done without actually having to do it all over again.

The problem with science is not the art, but the findings from it. There is no denying math and physics as an art is correct. But you can fit any theory with science.

No, you can't.

Nikola Tesla “Today's scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments, and they wander off through equation after equation, and eventually build a structure which has no relation to reality. ”

And? Not all science is equations. Tesla was clever, but he ain't all that. You'd do better to avoid cherry picking stuff that confirms your bias and broaden your horizons. A lot of science went down the road of trying to describe nature with letters and numbers, when they realised it didn't quite work the approach was adapted. That's how seeking knowledge works.

You don’t realize the findings of science is your religion.

What you don't realise is what science is, and seem to be relying entirely on what other people say about it to draw your conclusions without having any direct experience of it yourself. See the problem there?

And intelligences much smarter then you can lead you into any reality that you have no experience with through science.

Oh really? So because people enjoy what science reveals somehow all other aspects of enlightenment and knowledge are closed off to them? That's a complete crock. Come back to us when you have a little more than random selections from the Oxford dictionary of quotations.

a reply to: daskakik

Of course.

Just for context: it happened 8 years ago before anyone was taking about “flat earth.” I use to be like most people and thought religion was BS.

One night I couldn’t sleep (I used to be an insomniac.) I stayed up all night and when the sun came up I went for a walk. When I went outside I looked up at the sky and it looked like the most beautiful thing I had ever seen, like a Picasso painting. The sky put me into a trance. Then the sky started to ripple (like when you drop a rock into water,) after that the sky turned into a solid dome. The dome was made up on hexagons and squares. The sky turned into a literal roof. If you’ve seen hunger games it looked like when Katniss shot the arrow at the sky, or in Kong vs Godzilla, when Kong threw the tree at the sky.

originally posted by: AncientHeru
a reply to: daskakik

Of course.

Just for context: it happened 8 years ago before anyone was taking about “flat earth.” I use to be like most people and thought religion was BS.

One night I couldn’t sleep (I used to be an insomniac.) I stayed up all night and when the sun came up I went for a walk. When I went outside I looked up at the sky and it looked like the most beautiful thing I had ever seen, like a Picasso painting. The sky put me into a trance. Then the sky started to ripple (like when you drop a rock into water,) after that the sky turned into a solid dome. The dome was made up on hexagons and squares. The sky turned into a literal roof. If you’ve seen hunger games it looked like when Katniss shot the arrow at the sky, or in Kong vs Godzilla, when Kong threw the tree at the sky.

Strange that no-one else has ever noticed such a thing.

You must be "special". Or stoned.

a reply to: AncientHeru

You

You don’t realize the findings of science is your religion. And intelligences much smarter then you can lead you into any reality that you have no experience with through science.

No. It being practical.

7 Ways Flat Earth Conspiracy Will Make You Look Silly

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Celestial Navigation

The only way the math required for accurate celestial navigation positions works out the way we calculate it is because the earth is spherical. If the earth was flat like some believe, celestial navigation would be based on plane trigonometry instead of spherical trigonometry. And if that were the case, I would be explaining to you that the earth must be flat. But it’s not. It’s a sphere.

Math does not lie.

Therefore, the fact that the spherical trigonometry based math required for celestial navigation produces accurate determinations of one’s position on the earth is definitive proof that the earth is spherical.

Celestial navigation truly makes proponents of the flat earth model look silly.

Observe the time zones

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But that wouldn’t be the case if the Earth was flat. If the Sun shone directionally on a flat Earth, we would be able to see at all times.

So basically, the only way these timezones can happen is if the world is spherical

a reply to: Akragon

I have no reason to lie to internet strangers.

a reply to: AncientHeru

Then how do meteorites make it to earth. And how do comets fly about the solar system.

My advice is lay off the acid.

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

Yeah I’m a seer. I’ve seen way more then just the firmament.

But no reason to tell the mysteries to the unbelievers

“Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces” (Matthew 7:6)

Exactly what all you guys are doing.

originally posted by: AncientHeru
a reply to: Oldcarpy2

Yeah I’m a seer. I’ve seen way more then just the firmament.

But no reason to tell the mysteries to the unbelievers

“Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces” (Matthew 7:6)

Exactly what all you guys are doing.

Then don't bother sharing your "mysteries" with the likes of "unbelievers".

Don't do drugs, kids. They are not good for you.

Especially if you mix them with fundamentalist religious beliefs.....

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

I knew nothing about religion before my visions. My visions were described verbatim in all reigions.

originally posted by: AncientHeru
a reply to: Oldcarpy2

Yeah I’m a seer. I’ve seen way more then just the firmament.

But no reason to tell the mysteries to the unbelievers

“Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces” (Matthew 7:6)

Exactly what all you guys are doing.

Oh. Your one of those.

You babble With false authority, while you ignore logical and legitimate questions and arguments concerning well documented and witnessed phenomena.


Good thing I stick to the practice side of spherical earth.

Like why celestial navigation works. Why there are different time zones, why the sun sets three hours later in LA after it is seen setting in New York. Not not witnessed in the same Instance between the East and West Coast. Why meteorites can and do fall to earth. Why comets zone around the sun.

a reply to: OneBigMonkeyToo

My explanation was quite crude because I was on my phone and sent a quick reply. What I'm trying to explain would take a book and plenty of time.

Let me give an example. If I were to kidnap 100s of babies from a hospital and take them to a island. I could raise them and teach them whatever I wanted about the world using science. I could create any reality I wanted outside of the island using physics, chemistry, biology, etc. I could say the water went on forever and create a scientific model to back that up. Unless those people I kidnapped actually left the island themselves they would never know what is really out there. Again a crude example but should covey what I mean.

originally posted by: AncientHeru
a reply to: OneBigMonkeyToo

My explanation was quite crude because I was on my phone and sent a quick reply. What I'm trying to explain would take a book and plenty of time.

Let me give an example. If I were to kidnap 100s of babies from a hospital and take them to a island. I could raise them and teach them whatever I wanted about the world using science. I could create any reality I wanted outside of the island using physics, chemistry, biology, etc. I could say the water went on forever and create a scientific model to back that up. Unless those people I kidnapped actually left the island themselves they would never know what is really out there. Again a crude example but should covey what I mean.

Oh dear. I think I'll just leave you to it......

a reply to: AncientHeru

My God created a universe as vast and endless as God’s mind.



While you box your little g god into a fish bowl


“The heavens declare the glory of God; the skies proclaim the work of his hands” (Psalm 19:1)

You glorify your god in your way. I’ll glorify my God in my way.

a reply to: neutronflux

All I'm saying I I live by my experience. Ive seen what I've seen.

Peace be with you.

a reply to: AncientHeru

Let me give an example. If I were to kidnap 100s of babies from a hospital and take them to a island. I could raise them and teach them whatever I wanted about the world using science. I could create any reality I wanted outside of the island using physics, chemistry, biology, etc. I could say the water went on forever and create a scientific model to back that up. Unless those people I kidnapped actually left the island themselves they would never know what is really out there. Again a crude example but should covey what I mean.

But that doesn’t explain why celestial navigation works.

Sorry. Flat earth is the lie that has no practical used.

You just utterly failed.

a reply to: neutronflux

Did I say the firmament was the end of the world? You guys are so closed minded. But this is fun watching your replies.

You

All I'm saying I I live by my experience.

If you believe in flat earth. You believe in a lie that denies the true glory of God and / or the universe.

Flat earth is a sad narrow minded lie.

a reply to: AncientHeru

You

Did I say the firmament was the end of the world? You guys are so closed minded. But this is fun watching your replies.

Then you should have a practical answer to where meteorites come from, and how they make it to earth.

a reply to: neutronflux

I didn't want to write a book. That was just a crude example on how science can be used to deceive.

originally posted by: AncientHeru
a reply to: neutronflux

I didn't want to write a book. That was just a crude example on how science can be used to deceive.

Quote where I quoted science since you stated in on this thread?