40% of Parents Don’t Want LGBT Lessons for 6-Year-Olds, They Must Be ‘Persuaded’

a reply to: infolurker

Being saying for years on ATS that the LGBTQ Community were sicko's and wanting to brainwash children and manipulate them into thinking and being like them...

but

many times my posts were deleted by Mods and many times my posts aren't even popsted to daily mail stories about the Community... you know why??

a reply to: infolurker

Who is behind it and allow this? Why children? Why can't they be left alone?

a reply to: Annee

10 is not too young?

The only thing children need to know until they come of age is what is inappropriate for someone else to do.

I highly doubt its as low as 40%. I cannot wait for people to stop being politically correct and actually step in to help these sufferers of dysmorphia.

originally posted by: eldemie
a reply to: Annee

10 is not too young?

Not in today’s world IMO

Better to learn in a planned program — before finding it on the internet.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: eldemie
a reply to: Annee

10 is not too young?

Not in today’s world IMO

Better to learn in a planned program — before finding it on the internet.

Better to indoctrinate children into being "sexual beings" at 10 years old, or younger since these demonrat programs even target kindergarten children?...

No thanks... Children should be taught to avoid people like you, or anyone else who thinks children should be sexualized...

People like you who think children should be taught to be sexualized shouldn't be teaching children anything at all.

originally posted by: ElectricUniverse

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: eldemie
a reply to: Annee

10 is not too young?

Not in today’s world IMO

Better to learn in a planned program — before finding it on the internet.

Better to indoctrinate children into being "sexual beings" at 10 years old, or younger since these demonrat programs even target kindergarten children?...

No thanks... Children should be taught to avoid people like you, or anyone else who thinks children should be sexualized...

People like you who think children should be taught to be sexualized shouldn't be teaching children anything at all.

I am not responsible for your interpretation.

Again — children as young as 3 have sexual awareness — in that they begin to recognize that there is a gender difference.

Those people who used to be forced to live in the fringes of society now have the rights and freedom to live openly.

What are you gonna do? Put your hands over your kids eyes? You know, like the nuns used to put their hands in front of the projector lenses, when it went beyond the first innocent kiss. No wonder Catholic girls thought they got pregnant from kissing.

By the age of 10 these days — kids are very aware — unless they’ve been unusually sheltered.

Hey! Imagine if they’re in a class they can actually ask questions — and those questions are honestly answered.

What a concept.

a reply to: Annee

Gender ID? Yes, they begin to notice boy and girl is different, this doesn't mean they need to have sex education or know about Transvestites and transexuals and have their minds warped to think they are not meant to be who they are etc..

If people like you and that Community weren't shoving it in their faces, they wouldn't even be thinking about what Gender they should be... no way at all. They would just be the boy or the girl they are.

Do you believe everything you see and read?

Since when do they teach kids about LGBT?

The article provided seems nothing more then fake propaganda mean to stir people up.

Seriously folks it's the internet 90% of what you read is bs.

I wish I could go back to the 80's and 90's before all this online stuff took over. People can't seem to think for themselves. If they read it online they think it's true.

I wouldn't doubt if the site was created just to get peoples panties in a wad over stupid stuff.

Back then if you wanted stupid info you had to read the national enquirer.

a reply to: wantsome

It isn't BS. A friend's daughter is taking Early Childhood Education at a local college. This is being addressed in her training. We were talking about it last Sunday. She's uncomfortable with it.

originally posted by: CrazeeWorld777
a reply to: Annee

Gender ID? Yes, they begin to notice boy and girl is different, this doesn't mean they need to have sex education or know about Transvestites and transexuals and have their minds warped to think they are not meant to be who they are etc..

If people like you and that Community weren't shoving it in their faces, they wouldn't even be thinking about what Gender they should be... no way at all. They would just be the boy or the girl they are.

Oh yeah — shoving it in your face. Boo Hoo

You are the type of person who forced them to live in the fringes of society.

All these people now live openly in our society — as they should.

Children are fine — it’s the adults who have the hang ups.

a reply to: Annee

Leave children alone with this, they can not decide this for themselves. Let them grow through puberty but not ruin their lives with decisions they can not grasp.

a reply to: eletheia
This is longer than I intended. I apologize in advance.

My former sister in law recently made an "announcement" to her family (5 siblings, spouses and her parents) about how her 13 year old daughter started dating "her first girl". Actually, she cornered everyone that she could to tell them about it. I tried to avoid her as best I could because she loves to corner people and make uncomfortable discussions, but then she gathered me and her 3 sisters that hadn’t heard it yet, and made a big to do about it. Not shocked, and I fully expect one of their kids to identify as trans at some point (not because of how the children are, but because there is ALWAYS something going on with her kids to get attention. However, the thing that is an issue for me is this: Her kids have unfettered access to social media and their smart phones- they are being blasted with the notions that society is shoving down the throats of kids. Gay, bi, trans, whatever, anywhere in between, I don't really care. What I do care is that a child find him/herself before making declarations or choices that may follow him/her the rest of his/her life. This sister in law tells her kids EVERYTHING. Nothing is off limits. Ages of the kids are 13, 11, 8 and 4. The oldest 2 had a really hard time when mom decided to teach them about sex, around the age of 5. Not a simple explanation, but way too detailed for the kids. They were simultaneously taught that sex is bad and you shouldn't think about. This led to the poor kids obsessing over it and then freaking out to the point that if someone accidentally walked in on them changing clothes (even their siblings or parents).

Anyway, back to my point in replying, because I know these kids know every detail about their sister's experiences, and because I can tell the mother lavishes the attention she gets having "unique" kids, I asked her to not encourage and to ask her kids to not talk to my children about mental health/relationships/ anything that should be reserved for their therapist. This was also prompted after my 11 year old spent some time with them and they had diagnosed her with a tic- like Tourette's tics. Sorry, just because your kids are effed up because you are effed up, it doesn't mean you get to impose it on my children. (I don’t denote mental illness as crazy, and I think most people suffer from some form of it. But I also see that she seems to have some form of Munchhausen's by proxy, as other’s have observed too.)

My oldest is 14 and I know she is aware of a lot of this stuff. I am not dumb. But, I don’t want my younger children influenced into accepting a label. A lot of kids feel awkward, as the preteen and teen years are awkward years. We are trying to find ourselves, and that is hard enough without thinking “Well, maybe I don’t fit in because I am gay, bi, trans...” If any of my children decide they are “fill in the blank”, that’s fine. I love them all, no matter what. But I don’t want them to identify with “fill in the blank” as a result of a social contagion that is spreading like wild fire. And these issue have been identified as such, and the specialists that have spoken up about it have been canceled and/or forced to retract their professional opinions.

Needless to say, I am now labeled as a homophobe by this woman and her kids. While the rest of her family agrees with me in trying to let my kids be children for as long as possible. My ex has floated the idea of halting contact with his sister and nieces, since it is too hard for them to not dump info that is not meant for little ears on our children. However, I hate to do that.

originally posted by: chelsdh
Her kids have unfettered access to social media and their smart phones- they are being blasted with the notions that society is shoving down the throats of kids. Gay, bi, trans, whatever, anywhere in between, I don't really care. What I do care is that a child find him/herself before making declarations or choices that may follow him/her the rest of his/her life.

Children are savvy about social media, and know and find out more than their

parents. Children also develop at different rates you can have two 12 year olds

one stuck at 10 and the other going on 15!!so really they should not be treated

the same but age appropriately?

This sister in law tells her kids EVERYTHING. Nothing is off limits. Ages of the kids are 13, 11, 8 and 4. The oldest 2 had a really hard time when mom decided to teach them about sex, around the age of 5. Not a simple explanation, but way too detailed for the kids. They were simultaneously taught that sex is bad and you shouldn't think about.

Although 13 and 11 seem close together the speed of maturity in those two

years is huge, I can imagine the horror of anatomy diagram's and changes to

occur would be traumatic, I personally believe answer and enlarge a little when

naturally occurring questions get asked.

Anyway, back to my point in replying, because I know these kids know every detail about their sister's experiences, and because I can tell the mother lavishes the attention she gets having "unique" kids,

And her children are going to grow up just like her needing constant

reassurance and mentally dependent on the approval of others.

I asked her to not encourage and to ask her kids to not talk to my children about mental health/relationships/ anything that should be reserved for their therapist. This was also prompted after my 11 year old spent some time with them and they had diagnosed her with a tic- like Tourette's tics. Sorry, just because your kids are effed up because you are effed up, it doesn't mean you get to impose it on my children. (I don’t denote mental illness as crazy, and I think most people suffer from some form of it. But I also see that she seems to have some form of Munchhausen's by proxy, as other’s have observed too.)

Well when you've been through all the trendy IT things what will you have

left to get sympathy......oh! mental health...... the new go to when there's

nothing else left?

My oldest is 14 and I know she is aware of a lot of this stuff. I am not dumb. But, I don’t want my younger children influenced into accepting a label. A lot of kids feel awkward, as the preteen and teen years are awkward years. We are trying to find ourselves, and that is hard enough without thinking “Well, maybe I don’t fit in because I am gay, bi, trans...” If any of my children decide they are “fill in the blank”, that’s fine. I love them all, no matter what. But I don’t want them to identify with “fill in the blank” as a result of a social contagion that is spreading like wild fire. And these issue have been identified as such, and the specialists that have spoken up about it have been canceled and/or forced to retract their professional opinions.

You sound sane to me, go with your gut and don't depend on who does or

dosent approve. My daughter was considered very strict by her peers, her

children had very firm boundries, and her friends said she wasn't being fair

to them "because every body does it"........well she is having the last

laugh, as she listens to all the woes and problems of her friends are having

with their children and consider her lucky. She just tells them she gave her

children boundries where were their childrens boundries?

Needless to say, I am now labeled as a homophobe by this woman and her kids. While the rest of her family agrees with me in trying to let my kids be children for as long as possible. My ex has floated the idea of halting contact with his sister and nieces, since it is too hard for them to not dump info that is not meant for little ears on our children. However, I hate to do that.

Your ex is a wise man you may do well to listen to him...... you can chose your

friends, but not your relatives.

a reply to: eletheia

Thank you for responding. My ex is wise in some ways, not so much in others, but I still defer to his judgement in a lot of scenarios. Though, he loses no love for this sister, and I don't care for her much either. She is a drama seeking person, who gravitates to it or creates it! And she absolutely has used mental health as a way for attention. I overheard her once, proudly telling how she doctor shopped when the first psychologist she took her kids to didn't agree with her "internet educated" diagnoses of her kids and wouldn't out them on the meds she thought they needed. I love the family and still consider them family, but I avoid her at all costs!

originally posted by: JIMC5499
a reply to: wantsome

It isn't BS. A friend's daughter is taking Early Childhood Education at a local college. This is being addressed in her training. We were talking about it last Sunday. She's uncomfortable with it.

I still think the article is BS. But sex ed is nothing new in schools. In 1986 when I was in 5th grade we had sex ed day. Our parents had to sign a waver. We watched a video about the birds and the bee's and had a discussion on it. Out of 100 kids only 3 parents didn't sign the waver.

Parents job not the schools, school needs to go back to reading, writing and math. (cause they sure as F are failing at doing that)

In the next couple years I have to make a choice for my boy, and it looks like home school co-op is in his future.

I remember as a little kid on vacation with the family in Key West we saw some guys in dresses walking towards us, my mother said dont stare and when they went past explained what was going on.

originally posted by: wantsome

It isn't BS. A friend's daughter is taking Early Childhood Education at a local college. This is being addressed in her training. We were talking about it last Sunday. She's uncomfortable with it.

I still think the article is BS. But sex ed is nothing new in schools. In 1986 when I was in 5th grade we had sex ed day. Our parents had to sign a waver. We watched a video about the birds and the bee's and had a discussion on it. Out of 100 kids only 3 parents didn't sign the waver.

Lol!!! Much easier back then?

Birds and the bees ......Boys and Girls .....

Much much more complicated now LGBTQ plus god knows what else.

So confusing to assimilate now.