Breaking BAASS, Assessing AATIP and Doubting Thomas ‘DeLonge’

a reply to: mirageman

It seems like Gary Nolan was leading head for the intel propaganda. But he gets a bit sensitive when people ask for the things like proof.

Does he MM. I have not kept up of late. Would this be on Twitter?

a reply to: chunder

Which cases? The folktales? And, are you suggesting the MRI machine is a time machine by virtue of its capability to speed up or slow down wrist watches?

In that case there is a chepaer time machine: the sea. Try swimming with a non-waterproof watch in your wrist. It will stop, and to your surprise, the seagulls will be as if suspended in the sky, the waves of the sea will stop, the sun will be fixed in the firmament and, finally, the Earth will stop rotating on itself.

That is why I consider UFOs a threat. Seriously.

a reply to: mirageman

Whatever TTSA was, they clearly wanted to excite certain groups and individuals.

Interestingly, In this case, that would be outside of the UFO mainstream, something they clearly wanted to do, unlike the Bennewitz caper, where they wanted to feed disinformation directly to the UFO mob.

So, we can probably see that they wanted to excite just what got excited: the Don Quixote podcast warriors and the technology groups that hover around the defense industry, similar to Bennewitz’s milieu.

Possibly but I doubt they thought this group would show any real results. But maybe they thought legitimizing ufology in the mainstream ( and tech world) would pressure the DoD to deal with the issue.

So, this may have been a factional input from the defense department.

I still personally believe this was a DoD propaganda scheme--using the UAP hysteria --to maintain and uplift the MIC. Everything above points to this motivation, IMO.

a reply to: peaceinoutz

There seems to some crossover in ex-military heads setting up as contractors and then touting for business from the gravy train that is the US defence budget. That may be where some vested interest lie. We know Big Eric Davis once wrote a paper for $25k on teleportation, touting for $millions to be spent studying it. These Vegas UFO mob are as cunning as anyone when it comes to making easy bucks.

Then there's a possibility of tracking foreign espionage and plugging leaks. TTSA originally appointed Zondo as Director of Global Security and Mellon as National Security Affairs Advisor. A new company with just 2 regular employees and 5 directors did not require that plus the addition of another two spooks on the board.

The social media goons all popped up out of the woodwork at the same time. Although some of the older crowd were also onboard the TTSA bus.Knapp had been on board since before 2016 and pumped out nothing but positive propaganda for a few years leading up to the TTSA launch. He was also named in the Wikileaks emails, as head of a secondary advisory group. Which should point to his role as an embedded journalist (same job for 42 years).

It was all definitely a planned PR op. Possibly part of the agenda was to shake up the DoD into taking low tech aerial threats seriously?

Whatever TTSA was, they clearly wanted to excite certain groups and individuals.

Tom said in the email to Podesta that...

This project is about changing the cynical views of youth towards government...

No replies were ever leaked beyond an aide's comment to Podesta saying"Jesus!". Tom was obviously pushing his UFO/entertainment franchise dreams, and Podesta probably wondering how that would fit with him campaigning for Hillary.

Never mind, Tom has reformed Blink 182 with "Jeremy Elvis Tupac Britney Adele" now on lead vocals. He looks better in make up and without the beard!!

originally posted by: Direne
a reply to: chunder

Which cases? The folktales? And, are you suggesting the MRI machine is a time machine by virtue of its capability to speed up or slow down wrist watches?

In that case there is a chepaer time machine: the sea. Try swimming with a non-waterproof watch in your wrist. It will stop, and to your surprise, the seagulls will be as if suspended in the sky, the waves of the sea will stop, the sun will be fixed in the firmament and, finally, the Earth will stop rotating on itself.

That is why I consider UFOs a threat. Seriously.

The cases being referenced - or any others with the same effects, call them folk tales if you will.

Not suggesting anything with the MRI, you raised it, still unclear as to why ?

As for the rest I seriously have no idea what you are on about.

(semi) anonymous research leading on from the Wilson Memo "tale" by the guest of Richard Dolan's recent show.

www.dropbox.com...

Obviously (IMO) telegraphs the "ET crash recovery" narrative to the reader.
Which might be useful to those people/organisations featured..

The Big Institute of useless research is at it again.



If only the dinosaurs could have tapped into the 'other side' they'd at least have known what was coming.

originally posted by: mirageman

If only the dinosaurs could have tapped into the 'other side' they'd at least have known what was coming.

Shush!..would be bad for us - dont give them any ideas....oh wait:

images.app.goo.gl...

Did you translate this? (Kazakh)

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a reply to: mirageman

Does this mean we have to do double shopping? Like extra candles and such. Though these days that appears to be the new normal?

My head is spinning with this Bigelow waffle .

Mick West, arch nemesis of the UFO sub-genius, has written a piece which seems to draw on much of what has been written in this very series of threads in the days, months and years that have passed.

The Military-UFO Complex

Also adding how various entrepreneurs have smelt the whiff of Flying Saucery and a route to easy money.

The UFO Gold Rush

When the government starts making appropriations and passing legislation, money descends. The "UAP startup" is now a thing. One such startup, UAPx, initially offered to test UAP detection equipment, then morphed into a kind of UAP tourism. The pandemic made that impractical, so it pivoted to shooting a docuseries with William Shatner.

More recently, Enigma Labs tossed its hat into the ring, aiming to set up a sophisticated database to track UFO sightings and then use A.I. to sort signal from noise. Possibly a pre-emptive move to establish a presence in the field before potentially lucrative government contracts are available, the group's source of funds is unclear. One rumor suggests that it's getting money from the controversial venture capitalist and political financier Peter Thiel, whose name has also been bandied about as a possible secret financier for UFO research at Stanford and Harvard universities. (Thiel did not respond to a request for comment.)

Other companies seem to be betting UAPs are a route to future technologies the military will want....

The UAP Task Force itself took a cycle through the revolving door. In 2022, government contractor Radiance Technologies hired both the task force's director, John F. Stratton Jr., and its informal chief scientist, Travis S. Taylor, presumably for something at least speculatively government- and UAP-related. Taylor is already very well known in the UFO entertainment industry, playing an excitable scientist on shows like Ancient Aliens and, of course, The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch.

Recent government action on UFOs seems mainly driven by three sets of incentives. First there are issues that virtually everyone recognizes as legitimate, such as new aerial technologies (especially drones) that could pose a national security threat when used by a (human) adversary. Another real issue arises when systems, equipment, or personnel fail to identify flying objects. These are genuine problems that need to be investigated and addressed.

The second set of concerns is more esoteric. Government contracts were given to investigate a supposedly supernatural ranch. Government scientists have investigated poltergeists. People who think "nonhuman intelligence" is playing games with us have been briefing politicians. These quirky pursuits are no longer limited to little pork programs like AAWSAP: A creeping weirdness is growing at the Pentagon. Those pushing in this direction may well believe in their mission, but surely we're better off when government action is based on real scientific evidence.

Then there's money. All this unsubstantiated strangeness is creating new financial opportunities in the military-UFO complex. And when financial opportunities appear, all sorts of characters will rush to both fill and expand them....

a reply to: mirageman

…….”A creeping weirdness is growing at the Pentagon”…..

I’ll say….Pentagram



Washington D.C. ….. home to Demoncrats and Reptilicans



Imo…..we know more about Satan than we do about Aliens


…..”Mick West, arch nemesis of the UFO sub-genius, has written a piece which seems to draw on much of what has been written in this very series of threads in the days, months and years that have passed.”……

Looks to me, Mick West has been reading from ATS to get his plagiarizing compilation of crib notes….

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a reply to: mirageman

From Dec 2022...Wow...were time traveling!

This is a good synopsis of this thread. Though, of course, not as thorough.

Indeed, thinking of time traveling--if I were a UFO professor, I would use this thread on a course to gauge the zeitgeist of this affair and this link as a homework assignment.

He saved her from a world in decline

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Very interesting article by Puthoff

source: thejournalofcosmology.com...

It lets us understand what these researchers think ...
In my opinion it overlooks the grotesque aspect of the phenomenon, which demonstrates the deceptive nature

This is Jim Semivan's interview ...
www.youtube.com...
We have heard the various hypotheses of the founders of TTSA: Elizondo, Delonge, Semivan, Puthof
Can we say that they are all different?
Elizondo: a civilization at the bottom of the sea
Puthoff: aliens abandoned on earth
Delonge: Extradimensional deities
Semivan: An entity similar to Keel's superspectrum
TTSA a team with clear ideas !!!

Interestingly, the old timers know that the US government has already exhausted all of its powers to investigate ufos and has come up, as I often say: Snake Eyes!

Just study the history. Even in the early 50s, they were far along on this quest and all the way to Blue Book until 69, and they realized they didn't have the capacity to find out what the hell this is, and they still don't in 2022.

Puthoff, Green, Semivan, and Mellon all know this. So, what is their real agenda? Certainly NOT investigating ufos. It’s a lost cause, and they know it...

So knock the BS off!

a reply to: gippo888

Your link isn't working.

Does he offer up anything in the way of proof? Or is it all the usual pseudo-science, supposition and speculation.

Remember, this is the same 172 year old Harold who has scammed or attempted to scam millionaires, the DoD, TTSA shareholders and even ufology. Someone who has learned how to make money out of failure. But has no real credibility.

So I tend to think him and his French chum just make up unfalsifiable things to keep people's dreams alive. When in fact they've got absolutely nothing.

a reply to: mirageman

Proffesor Simon seems to like the Frenchman as he's used in the John Burroughs video re Rendlesham the the Proffesor created. Should we consider it junk MM?

a reply to: Baablacksheep

As he said himself he still doesn't know what UFOs are.