Breaking BAASS, Assessing AATIP and Doubting Thomas ‘DeLonge’

originally posted by: KellyPrettyBear
a reply to: gippo888
We've been decieved for about 2000 years by another group,
and even back 8000 year in total from another perspective.
It's easier to list who is NOT being deceptive.

Deception is the most important virtue in a world of survival.

a reply to: gippo888

“All warfare is based on deception. Hence, when we are able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must appear inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when far away, we must make him believe we are near.”

-Sun Tzu

The latest .

Jeremy wants to know stuff and something about seagull's.

'I don't care if these were ''drones'' or true UFOs, pyramids, triangles or even seagulls with lights strapped onto their wings. I want the fundamental question to be answered. Do we know the controllers of these units?' he said. 

www.google.com...

Here's the latest been pushed out.

www.uap.guide...

a reply to: Baablacksheep

Well someone put a lot of work in pulling quotes totally out of context.

They win the Broken Pencil award,

a reply to: mirageman

They sure did!

originally posted by: mirageman
a reply to: Baablacksheep
Well someone put a lot of work in pulling quotes totally out of context.
They win the Broken Pencil award,

But he is right about this: Yet most people are unaware!
Don't you think it's weird after 70 years?
I have a strange suspicion for a long time ...
Perhaps they have found a way to speak only those interested, to us ...
When the Pentagon goes to the Congress it speaks only to us because only we listen to them
Like the believers of a religion ... as Kev says

originally posted by: Baablacksheep
Here's the latest been pushed out.

www.uap.guide...

Recommended by
Luis Elizondo, former Director AATIP, head of Pentagon UAP program
Christopher Mellon | former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence

Ibid.

That worked a spell of banishing on me...
I immediately left that page/site.

a reply to: Ophiuchus1

I was in contact w Boris for a brief time. Lost touch as I believe he took a job in Great Britan. No idea if he was legit or not.
Found this though>>
patents.justia.com...

But he is right about this: Yet most people are unaware!
Don't you think it's weird after 70 years?
I have a strange suspicion for a long time ...
Perhaps they have found a way to speak only those interested, to us ...
When the Pentagon goes to the Congress it speaks only to us because only we listen to them
Like the believers of a religion ... as Kev says

I'm sorry but I don't understand the point you are making here. Care to explain in other terms?

This is a good thing to keep in mind:

psychcentral.com...

Kev

originally posted by: mirageman
I'm sorry but I don't understand the point you are making here. Care to explain in other terms?

Sorry mirageman, It is difficult for me to explain it in English but I try
I state that it is certainly nonsense but you will judge

70 years of intelligence debunking has move away public opinion from the UFO issue
So all the news about UFOs only comes to interested people
Now we have direct communication between intelligence and interested people (we), the others do not understand what is happening
For example, I don't talk to anyone about it because nobody listens to me
Maybe this situation is not a coincidence ...

In 70 years they have always officially hidden everything but have fed the UFO theme secretly
Without intelligence, ufology would not exist
They have created a small audience of faithful (we)

Ufology was in crisis in 2016-17, why did they decide to revive it ???

Do you understand what I'm saying?
There will never be a definitive disclosure because they are addressed only to a few people, not to everyone
The news on UFOs always have the same characteristic: they are not enough to convince public opinion but they are important for ufologists

a reply to: gippo888

I think I get what you are saying but correct me if I am wrong.

In 70 years they have always officially hidden everything but have fed the UFO theme secretly

That depends on what they are hiding, though. The world's military can be secretive to a point of paranoia. Frightened that their sensor and weapons capabilities could be revealed to an adversary. or sometimes plain old bureaucracy A meteorite was tracked in 2014 but due to one or both of these reasons it was not revealed until earlier this year.

Ufology was in crisis in 2016-17, why did they decide to revive it ???

It could be that Zondo,Mellon and co. are really a bunch of wide eyed believers and what they see as 'proof' is insufficient to anyone else. It looks like AAWSAP was actually abused to syphon off $22m so Bigelow and his mob could play Scooby Doo while also trying to conceal what they were doing from the DoD by hiding it as a SAP. Maybe they have business interests that would position them in a good place to win various contracts from the military in relation to UAPs?

Or perhaps this is just a deception operation where the only objective is to confuse adversaries as to what is going on. With the so-called UFO community being used as an asset to spread this disinfo.

Do you understand what I'm saying? There will never be a definitive disclosure because they are addressed only to a few people, not to everyone

How would we know what 'definitive disclosure' is?

a reply to: mirageman

Some people say that Mr. Bigelow as just 'stealing' the $22m.
I don't buy that... he makes so much money from hotels, etc,
that it would be like Dr. Evil attempting to ransom $1 million
dollars, when his company is already multi-billion.

Whatever Mr. Bigelow was doing, it seemed genuine to me..
more like his dad let him have the car to go drive to the
library to study, but he took it to the house he thought
was haunted.

Kev

Experiencers anyway.. at least the ones who get completely nuked
with a close encounter, often say that only people who are 'invited'
can actually experience 'personal disclosure'.

It doesn't matter how often the USG sends out squads of nitwits,
if they aren't 'invited', they will at best get messed with, if not
completely ignored.

So even speaking of 'disclosure' in a broad sense is ridiculous
if you buy that reasoning.

There's of course a little 'nitwit talk' of 'humanity 'ascending'
so that would be 'global disclosure',

but if anything, humanity is descending back to apehood,
or so it appears.

I believe in the 'potential' of humanity to be great.. but I
see so few signs of it.

Kev

a reply to: gippo888

Since 2017 look at the rise of the Defense budget
$778 billion in 2022
• U.S. military spending/defense budget for 2019 was $731.75B, a 7.22% increase from 2018.
• U.S. military spending/defense budget for 2018 was $682.49B, a 5.53% increase from 2017.
• U.S. military spending/defense budget for 2017 was $646.75B, a 1.08% increase from 2016.
• U.S. military spending/defense budget for 2016 was $639.86B, a 0.95% increase from 2015

link

Biden Approves $29 Billion Increase in Defense Budgetlink

The national defense total in the 2022 omnibus spending bill is $782 billion, a 3.9 percent increase over the administration’s request for 2022 and a 5.6 percent increase over the 2021 appropriations.

Pretty good mark up since 2017 eh?


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originally posted by: mirageman
It could be that Zondo,Mellon and co. are really a bunch of wide eyed believers and what they see as 'proof' is insufficient to anyone else. It looks like AAWSAP was actually abused to syphon off $22m so Bigelow and his mob could play Scooby Doo while also trying to conceal what they were doing from the DoD by hiding it as a SAP. Maybe they have business interests that would position them in a good place to win various contracts from the military in relation to UAPs?
Or perhaps this is just a deception operation where the only objective is to confuse adversaries as to what is going on. With the so-called UFO community being used as an asset to spread this disinfo.

I don't think about business interests
Does US intelligence need money? Bigelow needs money ??
I don't even think to confuse adversaries
I think Putin's war has shown the limits of Putin's army and I think the Chinese one is even worse.
I think there are other reasons ...

How would we know what 'definitive disclosure' is?

In fact we will never know ... their game is just that
They keep us in a dead end maze
But why do they need us?
When the UFO theme falls of interest, something always happens that revives it
The info that keeps ufology alive always comes from US intelligence men
Ufology would not exist without US intelligence revealers

a reply to: gippo888

The info that keeps ufology alive always comes from US intelligence men
Ufology would not exist without US intelligence revealers

Well stated.

USA 'ufool-ology' is a scam /sham.

Now some people want to have 'spiritual experiences' but the only
way they are willing to experience it, is if it looks like a 'UFO'
so that's what they see.

That's the 'real disclosure'

but that has NOTHING to do with the games the USG plays
for their own benefit.

originally posted by: KellyPrettyBear
Well stated.
USA 'ufool-ology' is a scam /sham.
Now some people want to have 'spiritual experiences' but the only
way they are willing to experience it, is if it looks like a 'UFO'
so that's what they see.
That's the 'real disclosure'
but that has NOTHING to do with the games the USG plays
for their own benefit.

I don't know what the purpose of this project is but intelligence is definitely involved
Are they fueling a new religion?
Are they trying to tell us something?
I do not know ...

originally posted by: gippo888

originally posted by: KellyPrettyBear
Well stated.
USA 'ufool-ology' is a scam /sham.
Now some people want to have 'spiritual experiences' but the only
way they are willing to experience it, is if it looks like a 'UFO'
so that's what they see.
That's the 'real disclosure'
but that has NOTHING to do with the games the USG plays
for their own benefit.

I don't know what the purpose of this project is but intelligence is definitely involved
Are they fueling a new religion?
Are they trying to tell us something?
I do not know ...

Nobody knows exactly..

I mean other than the William Casey goal, of turning us all into obedient brainless
lemmings who will believe anything or nothing as convenient for them.