Trump orders that illegal aliens NOT BE COUNTED in allocating House seats under 2020 census

A good move by my President. Only a traitor to this country would criticize this.

originally posted by: murphy22
A good move by my President. Only a traitor to this country would criticize this.

Or a Democrat...

a reply to: [post=25315769]Sookiechacha[/pos

According to the constitution, federal "taxes" were to be paid by the states, by the lowest "populated" state, not the/an individual. And "income" was "profit and gain" not "earnings"....
Not every "person" was counted. Go and actually read the constitution.

a reply to: ATSAlex

Modern Democrats, aren't actually "Democrats". They just think they are. They're taught/educated to be "progressively retarded".... Believing that stupidity hasn't been tride before their "enlightened" existence. They're actually victims of their own ignorance.
J.F.K. himself, talked about them. But he was more American than a Democrat.

To note: I ment tride. Not tried. I said what I ment.

a reply to: murphy22

And you think modern Republicans are actually Republicans? I'm sick of the left/right illusion. At the end of the day Republicans and Democrats are sitting together smoking cigars, drinking whiskey and laughing at the division they've created and how we are eating it up. Sad.

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: Sookiechacha

The Constitution, Article I, Section 2, which requires the "counting the whole number of persons in each State" every 10 years.

Well Trump's order's are not to limit the census count, but to not use illegals as part of the restructuring of the House count, and that makes sense to me since they can not vote anyways.

I believe the important point is that illegal immigrants should not have representation in Congress. So they should have NO influence over the restructuring of our government. They have not earned it, and we do not owe it to them. They also should not be allowed to vote, simply because illegal immigrants should have absolutely no say whatsoever in how this country is run. IMHO.

a reply to: ATSAlex

What's the difference?

Sure, there are still good people left on their side. But they had better wake up and smell the coffee, and put these little snot nosed teeny bopper antifa types back in their places before being the minority party relegated to a handful of coastal elites and duped-urban areas in the least of their party's problems.

Never in my life have I seen such an entitled group. If you look at the election map (county by county) it is clear this ultra minority truly believes it should dictate national policy in the face of the vast majority of this country.

So it wouldn’t exist? Aw snap.

a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

originally posted by: murphy22
a reply to: [post=25315769]Sookiechacha[/pos

According to the constitution, federal "taxes" were to be paid by the states, by the lowest "populated" state, not the/an individual. And "income" was "profit and gain" not "earnings"....
Not every "person" was counted. Go and actually read the constitution.

Article I, Section 8, Clause 1 of the United States Constitution assigns Congress the power to impose "Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises", but Article I, Section 8 requires that "Duties, Imposts, and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States".[11]

In addition, the Constitution specifically limited Congress' ability to impose direct taxes, by requiring it to distribute direct taxes in proportion to each state's census population.

en.wikipedia.org...

originally posted by: Rich Z

I believe the important point is that illegal immigrants should not have representation in Congress. So they should have NO influence over the restructuring of our government. They have not earned it, and we do not owe it to them. They also should not be allowed to vote, simply because illegal immigrants should have absolutely no say whatsoever in how this country is run. IMHO.

Agree...

This is why having the questions on the census is really important for not only this BUT to actually get that data point of how many illegals are in the country and what areas. When we could be talk 10 to 20 million people that is a huge data point we can not just ignore as the left wants to say..."nothing to see here"

a reply to: Anon283799

Trump keeps doing smart things policy wise but its his mouth that gets him in trouble. But the dems just do stupid like its their life's work. Would you fly on a plane with a progressive pilot? Undergo surgery with a progressive doctor? Eat a meal cooked by a progressive chef? They think stupid and crazy beats sane and intelligent.

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: Anon283799

Since there is no citizenship question on the census form, how are they supposed to determine who in which households are "illegal"?

Exactly. they have no real way of doing this.

Maybe I'm over-simplifying this, but if you have a database of all SSN #s allocated in the entire United States, along with name/address/status (live or dead) of SSN holders, and you cross reference that against census results and even tax records, shouldn't you have the capability to remove most people who aren't a citizen from the census rolls?

There are probably corner cases concerning citizenship status and social security eligibility, but this would surely refine the census to the point where many illegal immigrants could be filtered out of the tally.

This is not really a hard problem technologically; the challenge is sh1tty record keeping, and obstinacy for getting these records digitized and easily referenced.

When you look at it, it's pretty clear that inaccuracy and inefficiency are intentionally built into the process.

originally posted by: sligtlyskeptical

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: Anon283799

Since there is no citizenship question on the census form, how are they supposed to determine who in which households are "illegal"?

Exactly. they have no real way of doing this.

The federal government has data on every CITIZEN in the country. Through differential analysis, what doesn't match up will be marked as invalid (illegal)

a reply to: TerryMcGuire

Antifa wanna dress like paramilitary---they are gonna be confronted by what that actually looks like

a reply to: atlantiswatusi

Except our people don't show up with sticks and fire bombs and bottles of urine. We bring automatic weapons, armored vehicles, heavy armor and THE PAIN!

Our boys know how to crack commie skulls.

a reply to: sligtlyskeptical

There are 17 intelligence databases. I'm sure it won't be too difficult.

Fortunately any mistakes can always be addressed by the courts, a process I'm sure will take months+

Democrats are grossly overrepresented compared to the territory they represent anyhow.

a reply to: SleeperHasAwakened

Maybe I'm over-simplifying this, but if you have a database of all SSN #s allocated in the entire United States, along with name/address/status (live or dead) of SSN holders, and you cross reference that against census results and even tax records, shouldn't you have the capability to remove most people who aren't a citizen from the census rolls?

Trump isn't suggesting removing all non citizen residents from the census numbers, only the undocumented ones.

The Census doesn't just count American citizens. It counts EVERYONE living in each state.

a reply to: atlantiswatusi

Antifa is a bunch of wannabe revolutionaries. Federal troops and actions should be held to better standards don't you think?

a reply to: Mandroid7

People here illegally should be THROWN out of this country along with ANY American looking to profit off them financially or politically.