What are we going to do about Seattle ?

a reply to: Gryphon66

It is a matter for the people to decide through their elected State and city officials.

They didn't do that.

Proof is armed thugs playing house.

a reply to: ketsuko

I can see American socialists, Hollywood celebs and Soros orgs sending money and helping build infrastructure to build it a proper communist bureaucracy in order continue to function.

It will become completely dependent on Leftist capitalists funneling money into it. It will never be a TRUE communist, self-sustaining society...in spite of the nice veggie garden they've planted.

In essence, it will become a six-block version of the deadbeat son living in mom's basement.

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: Gryphon66

What's the difference that you see?

No self respecting militiaman would carry an AK.

The preferred weapon of commies.

/shrug

I've seen you defending the possession of AKs for years. What does that make you? A commie sympathizer?

You have not.

I don't own any AK variant for the same reason.

I don't like commies or anything they 'produce'.

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: Gryphon66

It is a matter for the people to decide through their elected State and city officials.

They didn't do that.

Proof is armed thugs playing house.

To the extent that these people have exorted other citizens as some have reported, I agree with you. However long time 2nd Amendment advocates are simply goign to have to deal with the fact that Americans with different politics ALSO have a right to bear arms.

Until they are arrested, accused and proven guilty of a crime, they're innocent. Remember?

Is that AK legal in Washington State?

At least this fellow has a good taste in firearms.

a reply to: Gryphon66

Until they are arrested, accused and proven guilty of a crime, they're innocent. Remember?

Why doesn't that apply to Chauvin?

a reply to: Gryphon66

1. They're half-assing a revolution. They've blockaded themselves inside some city blocks and declared they no longer belong to the country and can do whatever they want, and the local officials are allowing it. It's a recipe for disaster in a country that is supposed to be run on rule of law which is one of reasons why it's been so successful. If the law now becomes whatever anyone deems it be at all levels, then people cease to trust all over and we lose a lot of what makes us successful as a country.

2. The response of the local officials has been "interesting" even up to one city council woman who has been openly supporting them in their actions by letting them into city hall overnight.

As I said, how this is dealt with says a lot about the direction we are headed as a country. Right now, this says nothing good.

As far as what they're actually doing in there? It's a sh!tshow. They have no clue how to seriously even attempt to build a real, functioning society of any sort which argues for them being nothing more than the useful idiot foot soldiers of a larger attempt to bring the country down.

And that's why I find it morbidly fascinating. I'm afraid we're all rapidly coming to a time when those who are of sound mind and body and privately armed may have to really fight if this country and its Founding principles are to survive.

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: Gryphon66

Until they are arrested, accused and proven guilty of a crime, they're innocent. Remember?

Why doesn't that apply to Chauvin?

It does as far as I know. I understand he's been accused and arrested and is now awaiting trial.

What's the problem?

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: ManSizedSquirrel

Aside from his hair and skin tone, looks like a dozen militia members I've seen.

What's the difference that you see?

Well you'd be surprised to learn that I am neither left nor right. That being said, I am focusing on this occupation and that fact that people such as yourself (I'm keeping it civil since we are just discussing) keep trying to obfuscate what is happening. Doesn't matter what the intentions are or what side of the fence these occupiers fall on. It also doesn't matter that they only took over a small section of the city. It is a very serious and dangerous thing to do. At the moment we are focused on this event, this occupation. If you have a problem with what the right "gun nuts" do then start a thread about that and please stop deflecting what is happening and look at it for what it is.

This is an armed occupation of parts of a city, it's that simple. To suggest it is anything else is truly ignorant. At this moment the inexperienced people that have seized control of these areas are living by the sword and living arrogantly. They are playing a very serious game with very serious consequences should this go south.

originally posted by: Ohanka
Is that AK legal in Washington State?

At least this fellow has a good taste in firearms.

Probably not legal to walk around Seattle streets with that thing.
But it's okay...he gets a pass.

a reply to: IAMTAT

One component of I-1639 raised the legal purchase age for semiautomatic rifles to 21, which became law in January. On Monday, other parts of the law, including enhanced background checks for buyers of semiautomatic rifles and a safe gun-storage provision, take effect.

Under that provision, owners could be charged under a crime of community endangerment if someone not allowed to possess a firearm — like a child or a felon — gains access to itand shows it publicly, shoots it or uses it for a crime.

Send the BATFE!

originally posted by: IAMTAT
Probably not legal to walk around Seattle streets with that thing.
But it's okay...he gets a pass.

Open carry of long guns appears to be legal in Washington State.

a reply to: ketsuko

Thanks.

The situation in the few blocks of Capitol Hill, and this is based on what I've read from people on the ground, is considerably different that is being portrayed in this thread and on right-wing media. The community leaders and local authorities came to some agreement for the temporary withdrawal of the East Precinct cops.

The law isn't what anyone determines it to be. That's a gross exaggeration.

You may not like the way they're handlign their business, but it is their business.

I will comment that to the extent that there are reports (which has been denied by Chief Best) that there are roving gangs that are extorting the citizens is of equal concern to me. However, the overall situation seems NOTHING like the hellscape that is being portrayed in this thread.

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: Gryphon66

I am sorry to tell you.

Because grand theft of 6 blocks isn't covered in the constitution.

Your opinion of what's going on in Seattle isn't either.

It is a matter for the people to decide through their elected State and city officials.

We are, after all, a representative democracy, aka a Republic.

Time to cut out the middle man and make decisions for ourselves. It's obvious we have depended on local authority too long and have forgotten how village justice works.

Long thread gave a brief look and didn't see it, but apologies if already posted. . . .



Ahem;

"Nuke them from orbit. It's the only way to be sure."

Okay.

Thanks.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: IAMTAT
Probably not legal to walk around Seattle streets with that thing.
But it's okay...he gets a pass.

Open carry of long guns appears to be legal in Washington State.

Thanks.

a reply to: IAMTAT

No worries. Wish I could do that in New Jersey.

a reply to: neo96

Thanks.

a reply to: ManSizedSquirrel

Yeah I hear the neither left or right thing a lot. I consider myself an independent and a moderate.

Yeah, it's technically an "occupation" I guess. Most of the folks involved seem to be living there. I'm not trying to obfuscate anything, I am looking at all reports I see. Most of the fearmongering/authoritarian fantasies goign on here are not based on anythig factual.

We disagree. I feel like the people on the street who live there have the right, occasionally, to remind even the local authorites that all political power originates from the People. Thanks for your posting advice, but I'll post on topic as I see fit, thanks.

An armed occupation? That's directly from the right-wing narrative. Kind of odd for a non-partisan, ehh?

You and I obviously do not agree. I, however, have presented facts from people ON THE GROUND there. I'm not really concerned with whether you think my position is ignorant or not, frankly. What I say is based on evidence that I post links to.

originally posted by: IAMTAT
a reply to: neo96

Thanks.

www.johntlaw.com...

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