Cell Phone Data Records Shows Shutdown of Wuhan Virology Lab in October

I agree. If we are going down then we will take you down with us mentality. If they had given the rest of the world the relevant information that they were undoubtedly sitting on then other countries may have been able to take adequate action.
Unfortunately due to their abismal and shady af handling of this we are looking at a global recession probably lasting a decade at least.

I always thought it was a mistake..... At first.

The more I think about it, their actions and their growing threatening rhetoric aimed at counties who dare launch and investigation into the start of this thing, I am starting to believe it was deliberate.

There has to be some sort of punishment for this. I don't know what but something. If the rest of the world allow them to carry on without any repurcussions I suspect we will definitely see a deliberate release of something in the future.

They have now seen what this can do to other countries health service, economies ect. Whats to stop them from creating something, having a vaccine ready for their use only and quietly watching as we have covid 19 part 2 but with more venom destroy our nations.

Like I said I do now believe this was deliberate. But if not.... theoretically it has provided them with a good old practice run for something far worse. a reply to: ketsuko

I have literally just seen your reply after posting and I have said the same thing. They will be making very careful observations about this that could come back around and bite us in the arse a second time. a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

originally posted by: ColdWisdom
a reply to: seeker1963

All we need to do now is look at satellite imaging of the Wuhan bioweapons lab during the month of October to see if there is any correlating evidence.

Look to see if employee parking lots are empty, or if entrances to the property were sectioned off, also things like deployment of military vehicles to contain the area, and look for the presence of chemical/hazmat teams and their vehicles in and around the lab.

The truth is out there.

Excellent point!! Does Planetlab have access to this data?

originally posted by: ColdWisdom
a reply to: seeker1963

All we need to do now is look at satellite imaging of the Wuhan bioweapons lab during the month of October to see if there is any correlating evidence.

I think Pence said the same thing? or someone else close to Trump?

Something about getting sat photos of the lab in October will prove if it came from there or not.

It almost felt like they had the photos, knew the truth and just hinted to it.

No doubt in my mind, this virus visited the lab on its way to the world

I tune in to a lot of news sources besides what I find online, broadcast TV and news/talk radio mostly. Too much info to keep track of or remember really and I tend to tune out subjects that least interest me.

But I swear I remember a report I had heard, saw or read that claimed there was a virus that crossed from animal to human in China sometime in October. I remember it was a short report, nothing about how bad it was or anything. I was just thinking "another funky flu from the far east" and blew it off.

I'm probably mis-remembering, but it seems like it was long after Halloween when I heard about it, November possibly.

In all likelihood, I'm just having some faulty memory I guess, I don't know.

originally posted by: KKLOCO

originally posted by: Bluntone22

originally posted by: KKLOCO
a reply to: infolurker

Even if it’s exposed that China released this, then tried to hide it. What next? WWIII?

If we find out the truth — its a catch 22.

WW2 ended 75 years ago and there have been all kinds of incidents, skirmishes and other assorted shenanigans without starting WW3.

Why would that be the only possible outcome of the world making china face the consequences of their actions?

Because China has made it pretty clear that they will refuse blame. Where does that leave us?

Pounding sand.

No that leaves us tossing china out of the WTO,the banking system and other things that will collapse their economy.

The amount of people on here who can see China released a bio-warfare weapon on the world and are willing to just sit back and say "oh well, everyone makes mistakes" is insane! Additionally, these same people probably are the ones who think Trump's Admin should be investigated on the COVID response. That is some serious mental gymnastics.

a reply to: ketsuko

Why do you think China was carrying out the research in the first place?

Bio economic warfare or to get rid of half a billion mouths to feed.

originally posted by: Mysterychic88

I always thought it was a mistake..... At first.

The more I think about it, their actions and their growing threatening rhetoric aimed at counties who dare launch and investigation into the start of this thing, I am starting to believe it was deliberate.

I thought it was an accidental lab release; becoming less sure as time goes on. The way they're treating Australia speaks to a guilty mind(s) . The only question is whether it's guilt from being so slipshod in lab safety, because they deliberately released it, or because they knew it would damage everyone badly and chose to let that happen using MAD logic.

originally posted by: yuppa

originally posted by: KKLOCO

originally posted by: Bluntone22

originally posted by: KKLOCO
a reply to: infolurker

Even if it’s exposed that China released this, then tried to hide it. What next? WWIII?

If we find out the truth — its a catch 22.

WW2 ended 75 years ago and there have been all kinds of incidents, skirmishes and other assorted shenanigans without starting WW3.

Why would that be the only possible outcome of the world making china face the consequences of their actions?

Because China has made it pretty clear that they will refuse blame. Where does that leave us?

Pounding sand.

No that leaves us tossing china out of the WTO,the banking system and other things that will collapse their economy.

Which should be done. We just need to get our manufacturing out first?

Whats the catch? Seems you want to be in the dark, or at least defend China from being exposed.

a reply to: KKLOCO

originally posted by: drussell41

originally posted by: yuppa

originally posted by: KKLOCO

originally posted by: Bluntone22

originally posted by: KKLOCO
a reply to: infolurker

Even if it’s exposed that China released this, then tried to hide it. What next? WWIII?

If we find out the truth — its a catch 22.

WW2 ended 75 years ago and there have been all kinds of incidents, skirmishes and other assorted shenanigans without starting WW3.

Why would that be the only possible outcome of the world making china face the consequences of their actions?

Because China has made it pretty clear that they will refuse blame. Where does that leave us?

Pounding sand.

No that leaves us tossing china out of the WTO,the banking system and other things that will collapse their economy.

Which should be done. We just need to get our manufacturing out first?

Call those a loss and just leave. destroy all documents,leave let them file it under natural disaster recovery and get paid for the loss.

a reply to: infolurker

Excellent. First; in Canada in July 2019, Canada Level IV lab expels Chinese Dr. Xiangguo Qiu, and her husband. Haven't heard about them since. That lab had acquired COVID-19 from the Dutch.

Chinese researcher escorted from infectious disease lab amid RCMP investigation

Plus, in October 2019 you also have the:

The 2019 Military World Games, officially known as the 7th CISM Military World Games and commonly known as Wuhan 2019, was held from October 18–27, 2019 in Wuhan, Hubei, China.

Wuhan Military World Games: COVID-19 Conspiracy Theory

Coincidence?

Seems that were in WWIII right now

This was removed from youtube I think it is interesting.

DR. ANDREW KAUFMAN: THEY WANT TO GENETICALLY MODIFY US WITH THE COVID-19 VACCINE
www.bitchute.com...

a reply to: Waterglass

irst; in Canada in July 2019, Canada Level IV lab expels Chinese Dr. Xiangguo Qiu, and her husband.

So add in the third lab, very strange timing.



CONFIRMED - FORT DETRICK, THE UNITED STATES BIOLOGICAL WARFARE LAB IS WHERE CORONAVIRUS ORIGINATED

FORCED TO SHUT DOWN WHEN VIRUSES LEAKED AUGUST 2019

US SOLDIERS WERE INFECTED

300 CAME TO WUHAN ON PRETENSE OF TAKING PART IN THE WORLD MILITARY COMPETITION - WON NOT ONE MEDAL

SPREAD OUT IN WUHAN WITH SOME VISITING THE WET MARKETS

US CONSULATE IN WUHAN FULLY EVACUATED WITH BIOWEAPON DRUMS LEFT IN GROUNDS

WEEKS LATER FIRST VICTIM OF CORONAVIRUS APPEARED IN WUHAN

US FOUND TO HAVE 5 STRAINS, WUHAN HAS ONE

PROVING THE UNITED STATES IS THE ORIGIN OF THE CORONAVIRUS

READ ON

PS - FURTHER PROOF IN POST FOLLOWING IN COMMENT BELOW

“As posted by June Lee:

August 6, 2019, the US's main biological warfare lab at Fort Detrick was issued a "ceast and desist" order because of violation of safety standards and protocol, and leaks.
www.independent.co.uk...

August - September 2019, "statewide outbreak" of a mysterious respiratory emerged in the US, causing severe respiratory diseases in a few hundred people. This was blamed on vaping although people had been vaping for more than a decade without such outbreaks. Officials were unable to find any relation to a specific vaping device and addictive.
www.nbcnews.com...
q13fox.com...
www.usnews.com...

August 2019 - Jan 2020, the US CDC reported that the US is gearing up for one of the worst flu seasons ever, with 12000 deaths. On 12 March 2020, the CDC director admitted that some COVID-19 deaths were misdiagnosed as the flu because COVID-19 were found when they did posthumous tests.
www.healthline.com...
www.youtube.com...

October 18 - 27, 2019, the 2019 Military World Games was held in Wuhan. The US sent a contingent of 350 athletes. They did not win any medals. The athletes toured Wuhan.

November 2019, the Chinese press reported that five athletes who had suffered from infectious disease had been discharged from hospital.
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November 2019, Wuhan locals were detected with COVID-19, with a spike of such terms in local social media. This coincided with the post-incubation period after the Military World Games.
www.businessinsider.sg...

December 1, 2019, the first confirmed case of COVID-19 was detected in Wuhan. Subsequently more than 80000 people will be infected. Of the first 41 cases, 34% were not related to the wildlife market.
www.thelancet.com...

Daniel Lucey, an infectious disease specialist at Georgetown University, claimed that because there is an incubation time between infection and symptoms surfacing, and the presence of infected people with no links to wildlife market, the virus could not have originated from the wildlife market. Kristian Andersen, an evolutionary biologist at the Scripps Research Institute, agreed with the assessment.
www.sciencemag.org...

Genotype assay of COVID-19 revealed 5 variants/strains (group ABCDE) of the virus. Most regions in the world have 1-2 COVID-19 variants including Hubei (mainly group C), and UK (Group ?. US is the only country with all 5 variants (Group ABCDE). In Virology 101, the region with the most variants is the origin of the disease.
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25 Jan, 2020, Japanese couple went for a 10 days vacation in Hawaii. On the second week they fell ill. On return to Japan they were tested and confirmed to have COVID-19.
www.nytimes.com...

Italy lab confirmed that the strain of COVID-19 is different from the one circulating in China, and that the circulation of the virus is not so recent, and had been spreading undetected for weeks.
www.theguardian.com...

China's coronavirus expert Dr Zhong Nanshan, the discoverer of SARS, said that although COVID-19 was detected in China, it doesn't necessary mean that it originated from China.

As of March 12, 2020, the US had only tested 10000 people, and COVID-19 was confirmed in 1600 of them. As a comparison South Korea tests 10000 people a day, but the disease rate trajectory is the same as the US. This suggests that there is a great number of infected people in the US, just that they were not tested.
www.vox.com...

www.independent.co.uk...  

a reply to: SeaWorthy

300 CAME TO WUHAN ON PRETENSE OF TAKING PART IN THE WORLD MILITARY COMPETITION - WON NOT ONE MEDAL

utter bollox

major coyle - gold [ cycling ]

golf - medals

wrestling - medals

womens basket ball - medal [ bronze ]

mens basket ball - silver

thats just the headlines on one page : source

this " theory " - has piss poor fact checking

what else has been made up ????????????????????????

a reply to: ignorant_ape

I admit I checked some but not all, including the games. I can tell you some is very factual I will check the rest when I have time, or you could. it almost looks like the no medals was added since it was emphasised twice.

Interesting so many things happening in the first 5 G city of Wuhan.

The United States competed at the 2019 Military World Games held in Wuhan, China from 18 to 27 October 2019. In total athletes representing the United States won three silver medals and five bronze medals and the country finished in 35th place in the medal table.

en.wikipedia.org...

a reply to: SeaWorthy

I never wanted to go there, but I've been thinking about this in similar terms, a theory I'm calling a "soft biological" war. A basic summary outline of what I've been thinking . . .

This virus was worked on in US labs during the Obama administration, but that work was ended due to the (supposed) risk of a super nasty virus getting loose in the States.

So, the work gets jobbed out to China where US laws (and safety measures) don't apply, a country the US owes and has issues with. Perhaps this was done with the hope (or plan) that it would escape (or appear to escape) the labs in China and cause an epidemic there.

The Chinese get wise to the treachery and say, "the hell with it" and let it loose on the world by allowing international travel during the outbreak.

With or without realizing it, the pandemic threatens world economies and puts China in a better position to exert more power over the rest of the world. Meanwhile the States try to shift blame on China and cover up their major part in all this.

This is just one of the scenarios I've been considering to try and make some kind of sense out of all this so I'm not putting my money on any particular one just yet. I have come to a few conclusions that seem pretty solid, but I won't go into those here.

a reply to: ignorant_ape
I take back my earlier comment about your ignorance. Seaworthy is trying too hard to cover China's arse. You are correct.

originally posted by: Charliebrowndog
a reply to: Bluntone22

IF it is proven that China knew about this and did nothing to notify the world I don't think WW3 ill start until most other world countries decide not to purchase or use Chinese products and then the only time I think you will see a WW3 type event is if China gets very desperate because of the total collapse of their economy and massive starvation and humanitarian issues in their country because of it. If they start it after causing something like this I don't see them having too many friends coming to their rescue.


I think the world has opened their eyes to how much they rely on China for cheap goods and I hope changes are going to be made so it isn't like that in the future.

You obviously have no clue on bow the economy works! You think China would be the only one to suffer if no one bought their products? Do you know the millions of businesses thst rely on their products bring made or bought from china?

Stop buying their products, then watch your own economy crumble as millions of businesses crumble!

It's not as easy as that!