Masks in public - huge and rapid shift in the “New Norm”

The only problem I have with it is you can't just pick a decent one up anywhere. I'm not at all convinced the homemade ones even help that much. And besides. Why the hell should anyone have to actually make a mask by hand or improvise with a handkerchief or something? It's not our damn fault the government didn't have a massive stockpile of them for essential workers. At least if you could just buy a mask that offers good protection for yourself and others it would make sense.

If you actually have a good mask, just wear it. What can it hurt?

Are you all reading everything correctly about the mask requirements?

Because while they are "required" here in MI, in stores, If you have asthma, COPD or other breathing disorder, you don't have to wear them.

And I will be making a monster scene if the store refuses me on those grounds.

I theorized that they could benefit from this by using all of the closed circuit footage of people with masks on together with machine learning / AI to develop new ways to identify people without their faces showing, among other things.

a reply to: chiefsmom

That's highly ironic. We're all wearing masks to protect ourselves from a disease that's especially dangerous to people with chronic lung disease, but if you have chronic lung disease, then you need not wear a mask ...

If they force me to, I wonder what would happen if I protest about being claustrophobic, which I am, and then walk in and start freaking out.

That part I'd have to act. I'm not that claustrophobic, but masks do make me uncomfortable like having a blanket dropped over my face. I don't like that either.

a reply to: MagesticEsoteric

I keep seeing people wear masks but have their nose exposes, likely for comfort. it's as if they don't realize that if you do that, it negates most of the reason for wearing it. But at lest they look like they are playing the part.

Smile and do you. Others can boo hoo all they want, until it's a law, it's not.

wearing a mask - is one thing , wearing it correctly - however is clearly a skillset - few have , but for reaons - nothing is being done to correct it .

hear [ UK ] we can watch Y-TUBE tutorials - from the NHS - on how to wash our hands .

BUT

no usefull official guidance on how to uses masks most effectivly and safely

the mind boggles

a reply to: MagesticEsoteric

Masks keep the wearer from getting the dum-asses not wearing them...from us getting them sick.

Dum-asses..cmon, help us out! Tryin' to save a life here. Yours. Not the wearer...

a reply to: Phoenix

No...they have every right to refuse you service..and should, and will

Husband just got done shopping. He just complained about the number of people with masks, but no gloves. He also said about half the people wearing those masks are wearing them wrong with maybe one tie or something.

He's been shopping with gloves from the beginning but feels the mask is nest to useless for the most part. If we're sick, no one is going anywhere and if someone does, then we'll use the mask, and if we aren't it's not going to stop us from being sick like gloves will.

In Japan it was always a thing for decades, done for reasons of being socially conscientious , have a cold don't spread it to others, or protection from dirty air.

New normal?? maybe, wouldn't hurt to buy stocks in up and coming start-up mask companies.

If you HAVE to wear a mask then the government will have to provide the masks for people. Likewise if people HAVE to have a silly app on their phones and use it the government will have to pay for the phone bill too.

originally posted by: FreeFalling
Beginning today in Kentucky if you don't have a mask on
they can pull you over and fine you...

Let me get this straight...

They are requiring you to wear a mask while you are driving your car, all by yourself???

Oh, how much fun fighting that ticket would be in court. Demand a full blown jury trial, and engage in serious discovery, demanding all of the studies showing that wearing a mask, in your own car, is protective of anything...

originally posted by: mysterioustranger
a reply to: Phoenix
No...they have every right to refuse you service..and should, and will

No... they don't, and I will sue their asses off...

Hopefully I won't have to, here in Georgia we seem to be a little less insane about this nonsense.

originally posted by: Ahabstar
Can I wear a mask and open carry without looking like a threat? Asking for a friend.

Ahab with your posting history you can wear a front-mounted
SCUBA, select-fire concussion bazooka and a 450 lb Texan
primate fellow for a knapsack. And oh yeah ice spikes in July.
And if anybody even opens the piehole YOU PM ME FIRST.
This trooper must survive . AND BFFTs sprained ankle.

Back strictly to the OP: it was already from day 1 documented
by the CDC AND WHO that an N95 mask was hardly effective to
stop any coronavirus cell size. Scaled up to everyday sports, it's
described as a 12in softball tossed through a basketball hoop.
fail. incoming... And pray tell who buried that headline?

Just after that infotidbit it was additionally proffered that (para-
phrasing)"if wearing a mask makes people feel better about being
outside, what's the harm..."
Maybe my take is that if the mask is useless as opposed to protecting
others (many times-fold) how about someone's common sense
kicking in and don't sneeze on grampa [?]

Besides, I don't need a virus to keep people away. My 68YO denture
breath could burn Noseferatu's armpits better'n 160 proof moonshine.

originally posted by: ignorant_ape
wearing a mask - is one thing , wearing it correctly - however is clearly a skillset - few have , but for reaons - nothing is being done to correct it .

hear [ UK ] we can watch Y-TUBE tutorials - from the NHS - on how to wash our hands .

BUT

no usefull official guidance on how to uses masks most effectivly and safely

the mind boggles

The WHO website has information on how to wear a mask safely.... if anyone is interested:

When and how to use masks
www.who.int...

I think it is the new norm and we should take it seriously. Our so-called leaders obviously do...

a reply to: ketsuko

I'm the exact same way.

I can only wear 'em for a very limited amount of time. Then I have to stop take the damned thing off, but my workplace requires it...so I find a little out of the way spot, and take it off for a couple of minutes.

I've also noticed a sharp uptake in people wearing 'em every where. Mostly within the past week, or so.

Hey, if they want to, coolio. It's the almost mandatory thing I have issues with. But, as ever, I'll deal with it.

I do wear a mask at PT because it's required. I understand their position on it. A significant portion of their clientele is joint replacement rehab, so they have plenty of older patients in the danger demographic who come in. They are in the position of having patients who are young and extremely fit on the one hand and elderly with failing joints on the other with all kinds of accident victims and people like me in between.

They have to do everything they can to safeguard their older patients. So it can be an issue if I show up asymptomatic there. We postponed visiting my folks indefinitely for the same reason.

However, there is evidence to suggest that asymptomatic cases are harder to spread because they're less contagious. Obviously, they don't cause the coughing and sneezing. You don't have the spray, you don't have the gunk on your hands to wipe around, you're just walking around like normal. So while you have it and can pass it, you're much less likely to do so.

a reply to: Vroomfondel
Oh goody
It is the impeach 45 lady