Corona Virus Updates Part 6

No parent should ever and heard me parents in this thread never, ever allowed a synthetic GMO to get into your babies body, do not allow this to happen, older people, already people that are not in childbearing years, you want this crap in your body, by all means have it, but no child should be targeted with this, let the children grow and make the decisions of what is going to be in their bodies for life, specially something that once is injected it will never, they will never ever be able to get rid of it.

God bless the children.

a reply to: TheAMEDDDoc

Thanks for clarifying all of that - it's great to have your expertise in this thread. I hadn't realised that it's normal protocol for a child vaccine of this kind to be tested and licensed for public use in less than a year?

a reply to: McGinty

Lol no that’s not normal at all, the clinical trials are normal but they staggered them. I’m not comfortable with my children getting the vaccine until the dose is refined but I’m also not sure. They could and should react differently than an adult or an older person. They may not have any issues at all or we could be condemning them to an unforeseen consequence. The problem is they’re rushing this thing, the data appears fine but I also know what I and others have gone through. The entire situation makes me uneasy, I don’t like it, I’m not even sure if it needs to be done but we also need to stop this thing and kids will spread it. I wouldn’t want to make that decision.

a reply to: marg6043

No, that’s absolutely wrong, your cells will break down the mRNA from the vaccine pretty quickly. It doesn’t modify genes in our cells or change our genome. It modifies gene expression, gene expression is the generation of proteins from genetic material. All vaccines do this in some capacity, otherwise we would not develop immunity from them. Viruses do it to but it could potentially be worse than a vaccine if the right sequence of events occurs.

a reply to: TheAMEDDDoc

The long term effect of the its or butts is yet to come, this not your regular long term tested vaccine is its a new technology and a synthetic DNA injected in a human body.

Pharma have a way of lying in order to push their wounded mediations, they pay plenty when things do not go their way, but this time they have immunity.

They are no to be trusted.

a reply to: TheAMEDDDoc

Just want to add my "thanks" for all your valuable input into this thread!!

There's just sooooo much hype and disinformation about everything Covid related -
- having you here as a 'voice of reason' is helpful beyond helpful!!

a reply to: marg6043

It’s not likely because the RNA is going to be broken down quickly so the protein generation and signaling is going to be short lived. Most of the reactions are immune related because of signaling and the immune response.

You need to understand this is not a DNA based vaccine, it is RNA and they have significant differences. DNA vaccines are a plasmid or small circle or coiled construct of DNA, that will travel to the nucleus and exist for a long time, months rather than hours or days like RNA would in the cytoplasm, which is outside the nucleus. A DNA plasmid will most likely not incorporate into the host genome. But it can and that can cause aberrant protein expression. It is expressed so long that it can act as an immunomodulating component and cause numerous changes like knockdown of gene expression, up regulating of gene expression, and other factors. This is why it can cause autoimmune disease or other problems but also why it can potentially work so well on allergies, cancer, autoimmune disease and most pathogens except for toxins.

The potential complications from an RNA vaccine or the delivery system will occur within days or weeks, not months. This will mostly be in those with abnormal signaling or autoimmune disease. Think allergies, autoimmune disorders, and comorbidities that impact immune signaling. This doesn’t rule out potential problems of clearing infection like immune enhancement but that isn’t likely because of the target they picked which is a conserved region across SARS-CoV-2.

This does mean they have to honest about what’s in the vaccine but I doubt they’re lying. I think the problems are it’s too stable, most RNA should be broken down with limited protein expression because it generates a more specific immune response, some people react to the delivery nano particle, and it’s being highly expressed in surrounding tissue in addition to antigen presenting cells and generating a very strong immune response. This is why it’s pushing certain people with allergies and autoimmune conditions or comorbidities over the edge.

a reply to: TheAMEDDDoc

You post reads like the same explanation pharma is giving to tell all is safe to take it.

Now can you guarantee the safety of this injection? can you, because Phama seems they need to protect themselves and the government from any wrong doings.

Can you guarantee that a year or two from now it will be no side effects from this injection? can you?

a reply to: marg6043

I took it, sucked for a couple days and that was it. I just don’t see how it can cause a long term impact from a gene expression or signaling standpoint. Only potential problems I can see are if they botched the target and we have severe or aberrant signaling/immune reactions from a Covid exposure later on or if we start to develop antibodies or potential allergies to the delivery system. Nothing else would really make sense unless they’re stretching the truth about what’s actually in the vaccine.

a reply to: TheAMEDDDoc

Can you guarantee the safety of this injection, please answer, that is all I ask,

a reply to: marg6043

That’s not how medicine works, you can’t guarantee the safety of anything, some people react to saline. We work with probability because you can’t guarantee no reaction will occur because every organism and even cell can express genes differently and those variables can change the outcome. They can’t even guarantee the safety of long existing vaccines or even something as simple as water or aspirin.

a reply to: TheAMEDDDoc

Yeah, that is what phama says all the time, when their wonder medications cause harm to others, but hey is for the good of the population. They just pay billions when they have to pay and move on to crate another blunder.

I guess time will tell, I wish you luck.

Belgian Virologist Proposes a Plan to Eradicate COVID-19 in 6 Weeks Using Ivermectin

So will this trial start an acceptance of treatment for covid rather than 100% vaccine only approach start to gain ground.

originally posted by: TheAMEDDDoc
a reply to: marg6043

...Only potential problems I can see are if they botched the target and we have severe or aberrant signalling/immune reactions from a Covid exposure later on or if we start to develop antibodies or potential allergies to the delivery system.

An immunity to vaccines? Am i reading that right? Wow, that'd be the icing on the cake.

Thanks as always for your insights - most illuminating. I think i just about grasp your explanation that RNA vaccine issues always show up quickly - within weeks, maybe months - so a short trial is permissible (please correct if i'm wrong).

However, did i read it correctly that if the host has allergies, or immune issues, that's a known trigger for a potentially harmful reaction?

If so, i'd say that's a very strong case for waiting longer until this is studied way more and refined. These days it's hard to find a kid (even an adult) who doesn't have allergies (the reasons are for another thread). My kid has them, as do many in his school. If we know that the vaccine can interact negatively with that, then it's a mighty reckless throw of the dice to jab them all in blind panic (which has more or less been the MO, at least in the UK). This puts a huge swathe of children at high risk.

Gamble with grown ups, but not with kids. They may well spread it and that in turn is a risk to adults, but that's what adults should do - shoulder risk to keep the kids safe. Sure, Covid will screw us in the meantime, but i say we have to take that burden for the time being. It's tantamount to using kids as a shield in a firefight.

I agree that medicine can't guarantee anything, but Pharma seem to use that as an argument to justify low margins of risk: 'Hey, nothing's for certain, so why worry about it all?' Trials are designed to push that risk as low as possible...

Don't mean to sound all 'lecturey' and high and mighty, TheAMEDDDoc. Some here take against you for being the messenger, but i think most of us in this thread are incredibly grateful that someone with authentic expertise in this is willing to debate our very non-expert fears and suspicions. In fact it seems that when all's said and done you have the same misgivings when it comes to that real life choice of jab your kid now, or wait.

I hope we get the option to wait and they don't start employing psychological and practical methods of enforcing conformity, such as excluding kids from school because they don't have it yet. There's a legion of Covid deniers out there who could all too easily be weaponised to use the stick on the rest of us if they're shown the carrot of having their old lives back. That will quickly get as messy as a 'Capitol riot meets Salem' on a national stage.

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a reply to: TheAMEDDDoc

Biggest sweat is / are Long term Effects. Several years time for instance ??

a reply to: McGinty

Past vaccine disasters show why rushing a coronavirus vaccine now would be 'colossally stupid'

www.cnn.com...

Here an example of moderna consent form before taking the injection, this from Florida but each state have their own and goes both ways for Pfizer and Moderna.

www.scribd.com...

HEALTH AND SCIENCE
You can’t sue Pfizer or Moderna if you have severe Covid vaccine side effects. The government likely won’t compensate you for damages either
Immune to lawsuits
In February, Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar invoked the Public Readiness and Emergency Preparedness Act. The 2005 law empowers the HHS secretary to provide legal protection to companies making or distributing critical medical supplies, such as vaccines and treatments, unless there’s “willful misconduct” by the company. The protection lasts until 2024.

That means that for the next four years, these companies “cannot be sued for money damages in court” over injuries related to the administration or use of products to treat or protect against Covid.

www.cnbc.com...

a reply to: marg6043

Imo it’s the government that indemnifying the pharma corps, not the public - certainly not the individuals.

I understand why, being forced into rushing the vaccine by the governments that pharma want indemnity; that’s a rationale request. However, that doesn’t give the government the right to make that choice for each individual. Hence the need for a signature.

If I’m presented with such a form and if it doesn’t say that the state assume responsibility for any significant and long term damage caused, then I’ll be walking out without taking the vaccine.

My hunch is that if this is taken to court for such damages in the future, eventually they’ll be a finding that the government must indeed assume responsibility. They are forcing signatures under duress at the point of vaccination which gives insufficient time and resources to fully understand what it is that’s being signed, so it’s meaningless.

a reply to: McGinty

It gets better, Pfizer has the largest law sues than any other big pharma billions of dollars for failed medications, fatal side effects and for lying to the public.

But do they lose a penny? no they do not, because our government pays billions a year on subsidies, this money comes from the tax payers, then this pharmaceuticals used that money to pay law sues and pay back government to push for legislation in their favor.

originally posted by: MetalThunder
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Ok, I wasnt lazy and watched it. This vid should be enough to put the thread into the HOAX bin.