Coronavirus Is Killing NYC Residents At a Rate Of 1 Death Per Hour...

originally posted by: YouAreLiedTo
a reply to: iwanttobelieve70

Yes, actually, I have.

And our growth factor over the last 2 days is 1.42...

Stop being part of the problem and just stay inside. That's all we're asking from everyone...

Who is "we" ?

originally posted by: Gothmog

originally posted by: YouAreLiedTo

originally posted by: SocratesJohnson
For perspective:

Before corona, there was a death in NYC once every 9.1 minutes

So now instead of 6 death per hour it’s 7 deaths.

That's a huge #ing increase for the first week...

What "first week" ?

Remember this post and watch. And let it change your judgement in the future.

originally posted by: YouAreLiedTo
a reply to: Cobaltic1978

The influenza virus killed between 12,000 and 30,000 people in the usa last year.

That's with vaccines and antibodies.

You can multiply that by 10-50x with a strain we can't control...

Edit: Yes, San Fransisco has the largest Chinese population in the country.

You can multiply that by 10-50x with a strain we can't control...

And you got the multiplier where ?
Bullwinkle - "Hey , Rocky , watch me pull some numbers out of a hat"
Rocky - "That was not numbers, and it sure wasn't your hat"
Cite source .

originally posted by: Gothmog

originally posted by: YouAreLiedTo
a reply to: Cobaltic1978

The influenza virus killed between 12,000 and 30,000 people in the usa last year.

That's with vaccines and antibodies.

You can multiply that by 10-50x with a strain we can't control...

Edit: Yes, San Fransisco has the largest Chinese population in the country.

You can multiply that by 10-50x with a strain we can't control...

And you got the multiplier where ?
Bullwinkle - "Hey , Rocky , watch me pull some numbers out of a hat"
Rocky - "That was not numbers, and it sure wasn't your hat"
Cite source .

Sources don't matter on this forum anymore.

The more facts we show, the harder some deny it.

You are all on your own at this point.

I'm just in the wings keeping score and offering advice.

No offense... I'm way past trying to explain anything to anyone.

originally posted by: FyreByrd

originally posted by: Trueman
a reply to: YouAreLiedTo

You can say virus killing 100 people per second and we still will have some hard headed members denying the problem and telling you don't panic.

Call them collateral damage.

Well the fact is yes, it's scary, but panic (as opposed to being of service and helping) will only make things worse.

What upsets me is when someone is honest enough to express his/her fear about it, is always a jerk telling that person "don't panic" just to look tougher and smarter.

The numbers are so easy to come by I don't know why people fight it.

This is from the CDC about 2017/18

The punch line is the final number turned out to be over 79,000 Americans dead from the seasonal flu that year, with no panic or market disruption. Lord knows what the worldwide number was that year! China, the origin point of this new one is at 3,100 dead and even if you double that it won't come close to the seasonal flu. That 79,000 in the US was with over half the population having had the vaccine.

It's fair to point these things out.

The low estimate of the seasonal flu this year and the season is still going, is now over 20,000 and as high as 50,000 plus of course the COVID-19.

Yes we need common sense and caution, but panic has nothing to do with that at all. It's all common sense.

Unless they are as dumb as a box of rocks, our leaders know this, but they have to be seen doing something.

originally posted by: Trueman

originally posted by: FyreByrd

originally posted by: Trueman
a reply to: YouAreLiedTo

You can say virus killing 100 people per second and we still will have some hard headed members denying the problem and telling you don't panic.

Call them collateral damage.

Well the fact is yes, it's scary, but panic (as opposed to being of service and helping) will only make things worse.

What upsets me is when someone is honest enough to express his/her fear about it, is always a jerk telling that person "don't panic" just to look tougher and smarter.

Or could it be to try and calm people? Lord knows there are plenty of folks spreading panic

a reply to: grey580

First I think 165 million deaths isn't a big deal when you take the emotion out of it it and only see it in numbers.
But then I think why would the deaths stop? Wouldn't people continue to get sick until we found a cure? Or we developed natural antibodies.

If someone said they were going to attack us and we were guaranteed to lose 2 million people if we didn’t shut down our economy for 6 months to a year would we? Or would we say bring it and march on?

originally posted by: iwanttobelieve70
If someone said they were going to attack us and we were guaranteed to lose 2 million people if we didn’t shut down our economy for 6 months to a year would we? Or would we say bring it and arch on?

It won't stop if we march on. This isn't a finite enemy.

a reply to: Trueman

LOL..

Let’s see .. it spreads better the higher the population density .. higher population density on average means higher percentage of democrats (and educated people for that matter).

So ...

It spreads higher in population density therefore it’s caused by Democrats.

Now that is the exact type of conspiracy math madness that has driven this place down the drain. You may have been sarcastic but it isn’t far off from all the arguments out here trying this say this isn’t a big deal.

I have every doctor I know and I can read from telling me how serious this is. Nurses and hospital workers from all over the world where there is impact saying this isn’t a joke. And a bunch of virus experts on this site telling me we are setting our house on fire for a spider.

But you all go on telling everyone it isn’t a big deal. Hey I heard a good one today. You know how much it costs to get a Trump believer to believe in socialism? $1000.

originally posted by: YouAreLiedTo

originally posted by: iwanttobelieve70
If someone said they were going to attack us and we were guaranteed to lose 2 million people if we didn’t shut down our economy for 6 months to a year would we? Or would we say bring it and arch on?

It won't stop if we march on. This isn't a finite enemy.

Estimate was 2 million dead if we do nothing.

originally posted by: Blaine91555
The numbers are so easy to come by I don't know why people fight it.

This is from the CDC about 2017/18

The punch line is the final number turned out to be over 79,000 Americans dead from the seasonal flu that year, with no panic or market disruption. Lord knows what the worldwide number was that year! China, the origin point of this new one is at 3,100 dead and even if you double that it won't come close to the seasonal flu.

problem is this came hard and fast for an unprepared medical sector..

on top of the already crowded chinese medical sector was a virus more contagious than the flu.. putting more people in a need for hospitalisation adding more strain to an already strained system.. so where do these newly sick people that need hospitalisation go? just die at home?

is the american medical sector prepared to fit in an extra 100 people per day? 1000 per day? and they are going to stay there consuming hospital resources for a longer time too.. if paramedics had to disinfect after every transport would they keep up?

originally posted by: YouAreLiedTo

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

originally posted by: YouAreLiedTo
www.google.com...

If you aren't taking it seriously yet...

It's time to start...

The coronavirus killed city residents at a rate of more than one per hour on Friday.

Between just 10 a.m. and 6 p.m., 14 people in New York City died from the virus, pushing the Big Apple’s total death toll to 43.

Check this out...

Kaboom.

Apparently the UK numbers are a glitch, at this point who knows...

I think the real fear of COVID19 is based on current death rate and lack of acceptable and tested treatment for the disease. The infection and death rates of the common Flu is probably a linear rate, year over year, regardless of various strains.
The current infection and death rate of COVID19 is exponential and has the potential to skyrocket unless they come up with ubiquitous and standard treatment for it.

There is no way someone can sanely compare a 0.1% death rate of the Flu with the ever increasing death rate of COVID19, now at 4.2%.

Until they contain it, it must not be taken lightly and they must do everything in their power to control the fear and hysteria surrounding this virus.

Stay in the house...stay in the house...stay in the house...they keep repeating this over and over. Is that because it's in the air...not the air infected people are exhaling...the literal air that we breathe...OUTSIDE...would explain it being transmitted to basically every country on the planet even places like Alaska. Maybe it's being carried on air currents? So that leads me to wonder if it is a bioweapon that was released into the air or maybe it is coming from within the earth or atmosphere itself??? Hmmmm

a reply to: ILVBRADPITT25

It's possible, we've all been spitballing various possibilities. All I know is it's way worse than the flu, there's much were not being told, were in fact getting lots of conflicting information.

I suspect were being prepped for war, I can't prove that assumption it's just my take on it...

originally posted by: Jaellma
I think the real fear of COVID19 is based on current death rate and lack of acceptable and tested treatment for the disease. The infection and death rates of the common Flu is probably a linear rate, year over year, regardless of various strains.
The current infection and death rate of COVID19 is exponential and has the potential to skyrocket unless they come up with ubiquitous and standard treatment for it.

There is no way someone can sanely compare a 0.1% death rate of the Flu with the ever increasing death rate of COVID19, now at 4.2%.

Until they contain it, it must not be taken lightly and they must do everything in their power to control the fear and hysteria surrounding this virus.

The death rate of Covid is not 4.2%. It is closer to 1% now and even that number is specious because it is based on known cases, not number of infected.

Here is a very good article talking about the breakdown of the known numbers / data and how a lot of it is misleading.

Covid - Evidence over Hysteria

a reply to: choos

I think too much of the panic is due to it being in our faces thanks to the media's constant pandering for clicks and viewers and to a lesser extent, politicians needing to be seen doing something.

I have no issue with common sense measures, but the market crash and supply disruptions did not need to happen.

Seems to me the steps being taken are to spread it out over more time. I'd think a better solution would be to concentrate on increasing capabilities in the long term. If you look at prior scares, they never seem to lead to long term solutions, so when it happens again and it will, they are ready to go right up front.

They used to call it management by stomping out fires. Reactive instead of proactive. It's bad management no matter what it's applied too.

a reply to: Blaine91555

I genuinely believe that a lot of folks have become addicted to extreme emotions, and the dopamine hits from the likes/shares gained by posting it online.

I think, that alone, has been a helluva powder keg for a while now.

Ive been thinking long term, almost exclusively because so many problems going on dont seem exclusive to the current situation. More a confluence of events catalyzed into crisis.

ETA: A statistic like "deaths per hour" seems specifically catered towards our innate struggles to comprehend larger scales.