Science indicates evolution of species.

a reply to: Raggedyman

Intelligently designed in only 7 days?

Yet evolution is a stretch?

I think i might need a drink if im honest.

a reply to: andy06shake

Empty argument.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Raggedyman

Intelligently designed in only 7 days?

Yet evolution is a stretch?

I think i might need a drink if im honest.

That’s is patronising me
You know nothing of my opinion or beliefs

Go study ID, many scientists believe in ID because they think evolution is so stupid it’s not tenable
ID is not just some crazy faith statement

But clearly, going by the discussion so far, you have no idea what science is, no idea what you are talking about and clearly not smart enough to understand the discussion.
You are not worth my time

a reply to: Raggedyman

I know you place a belief in the bible mate, im simply pointing out the shortcomings, and fallacy it contains.

Science amounts to the intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment.

Religion not so much I'm afraid.

I would suggest you go study some books yourself, but it was not that long ago your type of religious sorts were burning them.

I'm smart enough to be able to think for myself and see our organized religious practices for what they are.

But you feel free to question other's intellect whilst also believing in fairy stories, and not even original ones at that. LoL

Its you, on this occasion, that not worth anyone's time.

a reply to: Out6of9Balance

A completely impossible down to physics and celestial mechanics.

a reply to: TzarChasm

Oh come on TC we have been down this road, you and I, for such a long time.

I know you don’t want to know and I am not here to preach
You can be a big boy and find out for yourself, this thread isn’t about me

a reply to: Raggedyman

And yet preach you do.

That God did it apparently.

Despite the lack of any sort of actual evidence to suggest such.

a reply to: andy06shake

6 pages and I still don’t think you are smart enough to acknowledge your faith in evolution is no different to my faith in God
Unlike you, I can change my beliefs with no harm or foul, you will be shattered, God can use evolution, you, you have nothing

As for burnings, atheism has spent a bit of its time burning books as well, burning Christians, you atheists or whatever you claim
You have no moral high ground over christians that’s for sure

Evolution taught humans were animals, slaughtered millions and millions because no value in animals

a reply to: andy06shake

You're very welcome to God. He's the best any atheist can get.

originally posted by: cooperton

It would make sense that phenotypically similar organisms would have similar genetic coding. A macbook pro will have more similarities with a macbook air than it will with a garage door opener... It's because they were designed that way.

"Designed that way" makes for an easy answer. Was all life instantly created as we see it today?

Although chimp and human genomes are similar, they aren't the fabled 99% match that propagandists want you to think. The actual identical match is about 84%, which would be expected considering they would need similar proteins for their similar body functions. That remaining 16% comprises over 500,000,000 DNA units, which is totally insurmountable for random mutation to alter effectively. It is a pipe dream. Biology is too complex to be explained by random chance. It's an old out-dated theory that Darwin himself wouldn't believe today given the evidence

The only place you see 84%/86% is in a Creationism talking point. Those percentages actually have zero meaning outside of that as they try and pick and choose what they think works for their beliefs and come up with something to suggest science is lying for some ulterior motive. It is all moot since you can always just fall back on "Designed that way"... Today there is two percentages 99%/96% that look at two different approaches.

We could compare all the DNA in humans to all the DNA in chimpanzees. The easiest difference to look at is changes in individual letters of our DNA sequence. These are called single nucleotide polymorphisms (SNPs). When you do this comparison, the two species are about 99% identical.

But sometimes, whole chunks of DNA might be inserted, deleted, or inverted. These changes aren’t counted as differences if we only look at SNPs.

When scientists compared the human genome to other great apes, they found more the 600,000 insertion, deletions, and inversions. Of these, 17,789 insertions and deletions were specific to humans.3 However, it’s harder to quantify these differences as a percent – how do you sum up “there” vs “not there”?*

So far we’ve compared all the DNA in the genome. But sometimes, we only compare genes. Genes are the segments of DNA that act as instructions for making proteins.

Only about 1.2% of your DNA contains genes. And SNPs in genes are a bit less common than they are in the DNA between genes. Since changing the sequence of a gene can have a large effect, any sequence differences might be really important.

If you just compare SNPs between genes, humans and chimpanzees are probably greater than 99% identical. But those few SNPs are important.

What's the observable evidence for such an extraordinary claim? You can't just blindly repeat what you read on sci-blogs and expect it to be dogmatic fact. This is why science is so bastardized and allows such a perverse crude theory to persist. It's blind belief, without real evidence.

Well outside of a mass extinction with glaciers at the equator... This is not something I need to really prove to you in a post, do I...

a reply to: Raggedyman

I take that as a compliment form a Man who believes in the Bible and Jesus coming to save their arse.

Humans are animals, just like the rest of the animals on the planet, no mystery there, if in dought i suggest you use biology to determine that most obvious of facts.

Is it not Christians that predominantly burned there own via the Salem Witch trials and/or Spanish Inquisition?

a reply to: andy06shake

No witches were burned in Salem. They were hung.

a reply to: Out6of9Balance

Again christened a Protestant so not an atheist, even according to your God, and apparently in his house no less.

a reply to: Phage

My bad then, but they still died down to the beliefs of Man, in a God that has yet to be seen.

Burned plenty of the poor souls thoughtout recorded history, most of them being midwives, for nothing other than fear of what they failed to comprehend.

Arguing evolution is often pointless because you're arguing with someone whose position is that a sky god created everything.

Id love to see an evolution arguement that is anti-evolution based on scientific reasons. Not religion.

Pointless to argue with bias religious folk.

originally posted by: Raggedyman
a reply to: TzarChasm

Oh come on TC we have been down this road, you and I, for such a long time.

I know you don’t want to know and I am not here to preach
You can be a big boy and find out for yourself, this thread isn’t about me

Maybe you can stop making excuses and demanding worthy evidence to change your mind, and instead tell us what you think the most logically defensible answer is for the current phylogenetic model and how the animal kingdom graduated from enzymes. Or if you prefer, tell us your creation hypothesis and demonstrate its feasibility and/or inevitability. Maybe you have a destiny equation that could point us toward that empirical evidence of a creator being.

originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: Raggedyman
a reply to: TzarChasm

Oh come on TC we have been down this road, you and I, for such a long time.

I know you don’t want to know and I am not here to preach
You can be a big boy and find out for yourself, this thread isn’t about me

Maybe you can stop making excuses and demanding worthy evidence to change your mind, and instead tell us what you think the most logically defensible answer is for the current phylogenetic model and how the animal kingdom graduated from enzymes. Or if you prefer, tell us your creation hypothesis and demonstrate its feasibility and/or inevitability. Maybe you have a destiny equation that could point us toward that empirical evidence of a creator being.

Why would he want to do that? Then he'd have to invalidate hundreds of journals and thousands of peer reviewed articles researching evolution. On top of that, he would have to write a letter to every dictionary on the planet advising them to redefine "empirical".
Back into your hole, Raggedy - you failed again.

originally posted by: andy06shake

My bad then, but they still died down to the beliefs of Man, in a God that has yet to be seen.

Burned plenty of the poor souls thoughtout recorded history, most of them being midwives, for nothing other than fear of what they failed to comprehend.

Dude! they were damn WITCHES!!

They would need to drown them first... If they died then it is a "my bad" situation and if they lived, then they were burned...

a reply to: Xtrozero

What i want to know is where did they plank there broomsticks?

I mean that could be a fun.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Xtrozero

What i want to know is where did they plank there broomsticks?

I mean that could be a fun.

Screw Broomsticks... BOOMsticks is where it is at...