With 99% Percent of U.S. Covid-19 Victims Classified as Mild - What Entities Benefit From Hysteria?.

a reply to: carewemust

How de we explain the increasing deaths in italy?

originally posted by: chrismarco
a reply to: carewemust

How de we explain the increasing deaths in italy?

It's all a plot against the bloviating imbecile in the Oval Office that Carewemust loves so much.

To answer your question, how much money do you think was made from the following
... H1N1, H5N1, Bird flu, Swine Flu, Zika, Ebola, West Nile virus?

More billions will be added to their profits when they eventually reveal a vaccine
for our present crisis.

Members of Centers for Disease Control and Prevention own how many patents
connected to Vaccinations?

Follow the money.

originally posted by: carewemust
Thursday, March 12, 2020

Statistics clearly show that 99% of those in the United States who have CoronaVirus-19, are not sick enough to warrant hospitalization.

Frequently Updated CV-19 USA Statistics: www.worldometers.info...

Naturally, the number of U.S. deaths from CoronaVirus-19 are therefore, minimal.

Since the cancellations, panic, and hysteria in the U.S. are blown way out of proportion relative to what the statistics say, what entities are driving this overreaction? What do they have to gain?

-CareWeMust

I thought about it since the beginning. The only way I can put some logic into it is that China "showed" the US what they are capable off and did not hesitate to put on display the enormous power the regime has to resist a bio warfare war ,and that they will come out as the winners because they can subdue the population and impose draconian measures across the nation...while the west will debate if it is racist to call a virus on it's name and stuff like that (like Mr Tedros the clown). I think this is a mild version of what hey have in store. Of course the US have it too ..but will they use it? At what price? Will there be anyone standing if a deadly virus is released?

a reply to: FatherLukeDuke


Not true to be fair. Due to most cases being mild and the stigma associated with this illness the vast majority of cases are likely to go unreported.

I suspect the mortality rate is around the same as seasonal flu. Infection rate will obviously be higher due to lack of immunity / vaccine.

originally posted by: Grenade
a reply to: FatherLukeDuke


Not true to be fair. Due to most cases being mild and the stigma associated with this illness the vast majority of cases are likely to go unreported.

I suspect the mortality rate is around the same as seasonal flu. Infection rate will obviously be higher due to lack of immunity / vaccine.

Fauci at the CDC is saying that it's worse than the flu, at about 1-2% mortality. The more it spreads the higher the eventual number of dead will be. That said, if people listen to what the CDC are saying and self-isolate (I'm working from home for the next fortnight and we're not going anywhere near my parents, who are in their 80's) and just pay attention then we should be ok, as it won't be too bad.

a reply to: AngryCymraeg

That’s official reported figures. A lot of people who have this illness probably have no idea as headaches and a bit of a runny nose hardly justify medical intervention.

I say again, it’s no worse than seasonal flu, in fact if you actually research statements from people officially infected the effects last a few days and no worse than a cold.

Until the media worked up a frenzy of mass hysteria the disease was probably spreading throughout the population unchecked.

Hardly the apocalyptic scenario the news would have you believe.

a reply to: Grenade

in fact if you actually research statements from people officially infected the effects last a few days and no worse than a cold.

thats survivorship bias

the dead people never give interviews to tell people how horrible dying was

originally posted by: Grenade
a reply to: AngryCymraeg

I say again, it’s no worse than seasonal flu, in fact if you actually research statements from people officially infected the effects last a few days and no worse than a cold.

when was the last time seasonal flu made doctors choose which patient has a higher chance of surviving therefore should have the last ICU bed?

originally posted by: Grenade
a reply to: AngryCymraeg

That’s official reported figures. A lot of people who have this illness probably have no idea as headaches and a bit of a runny nose hardly justify medical intervention.

I say again, it’s no worse than seasonal flu, in fact if you actually research statements from people officially infected the effects last a few days and no worse than a cold.

Until the media worked up a frenzy of mass hysteria the disease was probably spreading throughout the population unchecked.

Hardly the apocalyptic scenario the news would have you believe.

Yes, and all those people were infectious at various times, so I hope that they didn't go to work and keep spread it. Yes, the vast majority of people are recovering from it quite easily, but it's the elderly and those with already compromised systems that will fall seriously ill with it and possibly die. It's worse than seasonal flu, the CDC says so and wishing it was otherwise won't change the fact that this thing is going to kill more people than the flu normally does. We need facts, not guesswork, and CDC is trying to provide it.

a reply to: choos

I agree and have already stated it is more virulent than seasonal flu. As to it's mortality, i'll go with facts and figures. Already the mortality rate is dropping as more testing takes place.

We should isolate and make provisions to protect the elderly and vulnerable.

Shutting down society and jeapordising our entire way of life however seems like a bit of an over-reaction.

100's of celebs, public figures and politicians now have corona virus. Remind me how many of them have died of the deadly virus so far?

The virus was first reported around 6 months ago, in that time it has killed around 5000 people, compared that to seasonal flu which has killed around half a million in the same time.

In 2 months the whole thing will blow over and the Government will be able to justify the Draconian measure implemented to stop the spread.

Fear of the virus is more of a danger than the virus itself if you ask me.

How many people will lose their jobs, income and ability to support their families? Not to mention pensions and savings!

a reply to: ignorant_ape

If you're 80 years old and have underlying health issues then i very much doubt you would survive common flu any better than Covid-19.

Illinois: Zero Covid-19 Deaths / 7 in Hospital / 4 Released.

Notice how crappy the llinois Corona Virus Website: www.dph.illinois.gov...

I can't wait for "the people" to get angry, rebel, and begin demanding answers as to why such an extreme overreaction to 70 Covid-19 deaths nationwide since January, with 99% of all cases being classified as "mild".

Source: www.worldometers.info...

Your local media will scream about the number of cases in specific counties, but rarely mention that the individuals are not in the hospital. In the absence of violence or blood, the media (all media) gets off with spreading fear...even the weather people here in Chicago do that.

The majority of known cases in the USA are only a few days old. You can expect the proportion of serious cases and deaths to increase in the coming days. There will always be a lag between new cases discovered, and those cases progressing to serious or critical condition.

On top of that, I have reason to suspect the reported numbers for patients in serious condition in the USA is not accurate. The reason I suspect that is because the number of deaths has continuted to increase over the last 3 or 4 days, but the number of cases reported in serious condition has remained static. Actually this morning it increased from 10 to 12, but still.

As of this morning, in the USA, 1.7% of all known cases have resolved by death of the patient. Globally, 3.8% of known cases have resulted in death.

In certain parts of Italy, hospitals are being overwhelmed. The consequence is many people are not able to receive life saving treatment, and as result are dying unnecessarily. And by the way, dying in unceasing agony and panic that lasts for days as the lungs slowly stiffen and fill with fluid. That is the scenario the rest of the world must attempt to avoid by slowing the rate of infection!

Take this threat seriously and do what you can to slow the spread of this virus! You could help save lives. Do whatever it takes!

a reply to: Tearman

If this works, we're on our way to a fast wind-down.

GOOD NEWS: The first (potential) Vaccine is being administered in Seattle today!

mynorthwest.com...


USA stats continue to look good too: www.worldometers.info...

They hyped up the virus so they can hide the world recession behind it. They can blame the virus for the decadal reset of finances, lots of job losses and such, and the usual bailouts with public money to those unworthy, but stay rich.

a reply to: KKLOCO

The issue is that you can give it to someone else who may experience more than minor symptoms. No one cares if you get it. We are worried about everyone else.

a reply to: Tearman

The case fatality ratio will decline over time as more and more testing happens.

The first month in Wuhan the fatality ratio was up at 20%, has now been steadily dropping and still to this day going down from 0.7% in China.

I expect once the pandemic and associated panic is over and real science is done that the fatality rate will be very close to that of seasonal flu.

originally posted by: Grenade
a reply to: Tearman

The case fatality ratio will decline over time as more and more testing happens.

The first month in Wuhan the fatality ratio was up at 20%, has now been steadily dropping and still to this day going down from 0.7% in China.

I expect once the pandemic and associated panic is over and real science is done that the fatality rate will be very close to that of seasonal flu.

As of this moment, the fatality rate of all known cases in China is 3.97% And they've been testing a ton of people. On the diamond princess the fatality rate is just over 1%. Probably the reality is somewhere between there.

a reply to: Tearman

0.7% for China overall.

I suspect the age demographic skewed the figures on the Diamond Princess.

It will be less than 1% once the dust settles. Much less.