Corona Virus Updates Part 3

a reply to: DBCowboy

There is some data to suggest that they work, but only to a certain extent. The actual geometry we're talking about is per the following;

N95 mask will filter 95% of particles at 0.3 microns or larger.

0.3 microns = 300 nanometers.

Coronaviruses are generally 125 nanometers.

a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
Not a good sign. I note that she is now in the hospital, does that imply not mild case?

It's possible then the virus was at her house and remained on the surfaces till she returned and it reinfected her...

What if she had infected food in her refrigerator or freezer? Either would extend virus survival.

Or, I know I have reinfected with strep from my toothbrush. (That is when I learned to dip my toothbrush in moonshine af the end of antibiotic course.)

originally posted by: crappiekat
Found that Thread I was looking for.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

It mentions using Walmart stores for disease outbreaks.

FEMA camp, Walmart, tunnels - always rubber stamped 'conspiracy theory' by the CIA. There is some hidden truths to it like Operation Northwoods and other Ops.

Proponents have cited a contingency plan (Rex 84) drafted in part by U.S. Marine Colonel Oliver North calling for the suspension of the Constitution and the detainment of citizens in the event of a national crisis. This was aimed at left-wing activists, not the libertarians and right-wingers generally associated with FEMA theories. This has been linked to a 1970 document by Louis Giuffrida (years later, the director of FEMA) calling for the establishment of martial law in the event of an uprising by African American militants and the internment of millions of African Americans.

en.wikipedia.org...

The Secret History of FEMA

Project 908 saw FBI agents, working effectively undercover for FEMA, detailing large warehouses, automobile facilities, Masonic temples, Elks lodges, casinos, camp sites, Coca-Cola bottling plants, Indian bingo halls, country inns, furniture stores, and other potential relocation facilities. In Arkansas, agents lined up a meeting with Walmart executives to discuss using the company’s huge stores for Project 908, explaining as a cover that they wanted to learn crisis management techniques from companies that had large centralized leadership.

Goog "Project 908", that is the real Deep State... COG... reactivated/funded post 9/11.

a reply to: myselfaswell

Okay.

I’m not going to debate it, I’m trying to stay true to the thread and just relay as much accurate information that I can.

originally posted by: Oleman
a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
Not a good sign. I note that she is now in the hospital, does that imply not mild case?

It's possible then the virus was at her house and remained on the surfaces till she returned and it reinfected her...

What if she had infected food in her refrigerator or freezer? Either would extend virus survival.

Or, I know I have reinfected with strep from my toothbrush. (That is when I learned to dip my toothbrush in moonshine af the end of antibiotic course.)

That's a waste of perfectly good moonshine. Run the toothbrush through a cycle in your dishwasher instead.

a reply to: Oleman

I imagine her being in hospital that she's not doing too well.

You've given me an excuse to go get some overproof alcoholic beverages...

a reply to: TheAMEDDDoc



Meet Dr. Ian Crozier, Ebola survivor. Despite testing negative for Ebola for months, he harbored a higher concentration of live virus in his left eye than he had in his blood when his infection was at its worst.

Maybe there is a similar reservoir this virus can hide out in to escape testing?

The message Trump gave was about as good as we could expect, hope for the best, prepare for the worst.

On the issues of testing a lot of work needs to be done here. With the media reporting that one man gets charged $3600 just for a test, only in America I guess. With this kind of health care it makes a good recipe for high epidemic levels as people are just too reluctant to even check. With nearly a million people a year going bankrupt due to health care cost it does create a strong barrier to effective containment. Those with the money or good health care plans will have a better chance in getting the quality care required.

With the way the government is playing this, the true numbers will most likely never be known. There are lots of reporting tricks to reduce the numbers, diagnosis of pneumonia, kidney damage and heart disease for example.

a reply to: fleabit

I clearly did not say or elude to that.

More clearly stated - maybe White House knows the virus is a cover for something else like a bio weapon being released in China (and maybe Iran) but will/can not disclose that to the CDC.

We still have NO independent verification of the same flu virus having infected and killed people in Wuhan as is spreading across the globe. None. Zero. Zip. Zilch.

It’s still an assumption on our part it is. And we are taking the word of a regime which routinely lies, kills dissidents, disappears people, steals IP and tech and does forced organ harvesting of prisoners.

And we are on a conspiracy forum.

Also as pointed out by others it’s the CDCs job to act the way they are. The White House does not need to be in lockstep and there are no laws compelling that.

I guess it's over - LOL!

covid19info.live...

Showing 0 "Rest of the World" cases past 5 min or so... I'm sure it''ll update soon though

a reply to: myselfaswell

As stated earlier a few times - virus needs to bind to a molecule large enough to stay airborne and N95 would stop the molecule+virus from entering your person.

Is there something that now contradicts this?

originally posted by: Oleman
a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
Not a good sign. I note that she is now in the hospital, does that imply not mild case?

It's possible then the virus was at her house and remained on the surfaces till she returned and it reinfected her...

What if she had infected food in her refrigerator or freezer? Either would extend virus survival.

Or, I know I have reinfected with strep from my toothbrush. (That is when I learned to dip my toothbrush in moonshine af the end of antibiotic course.)

Ignoring the moonshine you may have raised an important point I've not seen any where. How often is the toothbrush the cause of reinfection? A supply of toothbrushes should be on everyone's list. When ever anyone comes down a virus in general immediately throw all of the toothbrushes away or put them in the dishwasher when you wash dishes. This is probably a major source of reinfection we all overlook. After all your toothbrush is usually in the bathroom and how many times a day does the commode get flushed with the lid up?

Another question: Did she have a cat? Might she have passed it to the cat and then gotten it back?

a reply to: SpartanStoic



In summary, if the virus isn't connected to anything then it can be suspended in the atmosphere all by itself. If however it's stuck on the end of a massive big goober, then it'll probably fall out of the atmosphere.

I should also note the horizontal bar is in microns.

The developments today:

NY State announces that they've developed their own public testing labs for coronavirus, validated the tests, and it's being held up by the FDA

CDC gets harangued by experienced doctors at UC Davis into testing a critical pneumonia patient with no connections to existing cases.

CDC initially denied the request, but then gave in. It's positive. The patient contracted this in the US WEEKS ago

The supposed community testing that the CDC announced is actually still being blocked, per those same UC Davis doctors Fully knowing this, the President schedules press conference and fails to acknowledge that this case exists, nor that community testing is still being blocked

The president puts a politician, not a doctor or scientist, in charge of the whole coronavirus response without even telling the head of the coronavirus task force

🤔🤷‍♂️. I got a bad feeling about this...

SOURCE

originally posted by: ketsuko
Another question: Did she have a cat? Might she have passed it to the cat and then gotten it back?

I'm tired and going to bed soon, but I thought that the CoVID19 was no longer considered to be reverse zoonotic?

originally posted by: kwakakev
The message Trump gave was about as good as we could expect, hope for the best, prepare for the worst.

On the issues of testing a lot of work needs to be done here. With the media reporting that one man gets charged $3600 just for a test, only in America I guess. With this kind of health care it makes a good recipe for high epidemic levels as people are just too reluctant to even check. With nearly a million people a year going bankrupt due to health care cost it does create a strong barrier to effective containment. Those with the money or good health care plans will have a better chance in getting the quality care required.

With the way the government is playing this, the true numbers will most likely never be known. There are lots of reporting tricks to reduce the numbers, diagnosis of pneumonia, kidney damage and heart disease for example.

That cost (USD$3,600) to test your self is outrageous, here in Chile it is said that it costs USD$105.47 and the government will finance part of it or cover it completely... and we have a F# government... Guess our government is doing this just to save face after what happened in last October.

a reply to: myselfaswell

A graphic chart of relative sizes doesn’t mean anything.

Do you have source article explaining that an N95 mask does NOT stop coronavirus from entering your mouth or nose?

a reply to: Bicent

Eh, I feel less bad about assigning an executive to head up the group. He's being asked to coordinate several different federal agencies, and you need someone with enough definite clout and experience to make them all work together. A doctor or scientist wouldn't necessarily have that.

So long as Pence knows when to listen, it'll be fine.

The medical journal JAMA released a paper this week analyzing data from the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention on 72,314 coronavirus cases in mainland China, the figure as of Feb. 11, the largest such sample in a study of this kind.

The sample’s overall case-fatality rate was 2.3%, higher than World Health Organization official 0.7% rate. No deaths occurred in those aged 9 years and younger, but cases in those aged 70 to 79 years had an 8% fatality rate and those aged 80 years and older had a fatality rate of 14.8%.

No deaths were reported among mild and severe cases. The fatality rate was 49% among critical cases, and elevated among those with preexisting conditions: 10.5% for people with cardiovascular disease, 7.3% for diabetes, 6.3% for chronic respiratory disease, 6% for hypertension, and 5.6% for cancer.

The latest China-based study, which was not peer-reviewed by U.S. scientists, found that men had a fatality rate of 2.8% versus 1.7% for women. Some doctors have said that women may have a stronger immune system as a genetic advantage to help babies during pregnancy.

The Chinese study is likely not representative of what might happen if the global spread of the virus worsens. In China, nearly half of men smoke cigarettescompared to roughly 2% of women, which could be one reason for the higher death rate among males.

www.marketwatch.com... n-others-2020-02-26

Don't be an old man with cardiovascular disease.