Corona Virus Updates Part 2

"An eight-month-old baby is thought to be the youngest British person in isolation for suspected coronavirus after being treated by an infected GP.

The little boy and his mother have been put into quarantine in their own home after both came into direct contact with the confirmed carrier, his father said.

It comes as public health authorities try to trace around a dozen patients treated by the GP last week over fears they could have caught the disease in Worthing Hospital in West Sussex."
www.telegraph.co.uk...
emphasis added

Now, why the hell are suspected cases being quarantined at home? Especially as it sounds like this infant already has underlying health problems. Is the NHS already that stretched? I understand symptom-less contacts being asked to self quarantine, but "suspected cases"? Sick babies??

a reply to: musicismagic

HEY THIS IS THE HORRIBLE NEWS BUT PLEASE, LET YOUR MIND WONDER, AND PLEASE POST WHAT REPERCUSSIONS THAT YOU NOW THINK WHAT WILL HAPPEN.

Event 201 is going to be pretty close to how this virus spreads. There maybe a few localized exceptions with some rates of spreading and complications higher and some lower. The time frame maybe a little off, but as a rough guide it provides a realistic expectation.

Simulation Global Flu Pandemic


Locally, I am expecting this upcoming flu season to have a higher fatality and complication rate compared to previous years. Our medical system will become more stressed with nursing homes and elderly residential facilities accounting for most of the critical cases. All sectors of society will be effected in some ways.

With lots of indications that the official reporting is not matching the reality due to many reasons, a fatality rate of 15% is what I am preparing for. Hopefully it is less, potentially it could be more.

With lots of people having a dismissive attitude towards this disease at this time, a state of shock, anger, and frustration when presented with its direct implications is to be expected. The progress of this thread is just one small example of it. The actions by state officials, police and the public in Wuhan is another example by locking up buildings, attacks on people not wearing masks and other vulnerable members of the community. As this disease spreads globally, increased racism towards Asian populations is a risk as people look for someone to blame.

Quarantine procedures are set to fracture society with impeded trade and industry shortages. Issues of food production and distribution are already developing in Wuhan. So far the larger companies are still functioning with some of the smaller businesses already closed.

Do you rip of a bandaid quickly or slowly? Do it fast and it does sting more, but you get over it quick. Do it slow and does not hurt as much, but does drag it out. What is more painful, time or intensity?

If the evidence is clear that we cannot contain this virus then our only choice is to adapt to it, could be 2 moths or 2 years until it finally finds us. Implement save working procedures to limit and reduce exposure, but keep industry running as long as we can. Direct resources to vital industry, health care, transportation, energy, food production.

Managing the fear is going to be just as tough as managing the disease as this disease peaks. Maintaining social order is going to have its challenges. Generally people do pull together well when confronting disasters like fires, more so in the country than the city.

Singapore reports 8 new cases of coronavirus, raising country's total to 58

twitter.com...

GP surgery in Somerset has now been closed.

Linky

Rev

Eu press conference starting soon for those interested
video.consilium.europa.eu...

#BREAKING: 1st #coronavirus death in Japan confirmed: health minister

a reply to: Agit8dChop

A woman in her 80s infected with the new coronavirus has died in Kanagawa Prefecture, next to Tokyo. It's the first death of a person infected with the virus in Japan.

At this point I'd like to ask a question that some may find superflous and others may have asked themselves the same thing.
We are obviously talking a lot about human casualties or the quarantine, but when I pondered today what we would do if we were quarantined, I could not help getting worried about our animals.
Their food would soon run out and their bedding and poop litter.
We love them as our children [no children, I prefer animals], so I wouldn't know what to do. Would we have to watch them starve, would we have to put them down?
To me this is actually more scary than me catching this virus. After all, even if we don't catch it but are in quarantine, the animals will suffer just from the human panic alone and not from any illness.

I wonder what is happening in china with beloved pets?
I can imagine that a few ruthless people will just murder them, some even eat them. But what about those that really rely and love their pets?

I don't want stupid answers, or attempts at 'humour', I am really upset about this [yeah, I do care about animals just as much as humans, so bite me].

If you have a dog or cat or horse or anything that you love dearly because they are their own little persons, imagine being in quarantine and what might happen to them. Considering a lot of people will say 'they are ONLY animals', they have no rights nor will anyone care. Well I do!

a reply to: Oppenheimer67


a reply to: revmoofoo

Apologies for being an ignorant American, but is this standard procedure for a disease that is what some think to be less severe than the common cold or any strain of flu?

a reply to: Hecate666

I agree, and share your worries. Stocking up on food & supplies. One cat is on a special prescription diet, and reading the label last night, it says: "Made in the USA with Global ingredients you can trust" - now THAT has me worried! Going to call manufacturer today!

originally posted by: Hecate666
At this point I'd like to ask a question that some may find superflous and others may have asked themselves the same thing.
We are obviously talking a lot about human casualties or the quarantine, but when I pondered today what we would do if we were quarantined, I could not help getting worried about our animals.
Their food would soon run out and their bedding and poop litter.
We love them as our children [no children, I prefer animals], so I wouldn't know what to do. Would we have to watch them starve, would we have to put them down?
To me this is actually more scary than me catching this virus. After all, even if we don't catch it but are in quarantine, the animals will suffer just from the human panic alone and not from any illness.

I wonder what is happening in china with beloved pets?
I can imagine that a few ruthless people will just murder them, some even eat them. But what about those that really rely and love their pets?

I don't want stupid answers, or attempts at 'humour', I am really upset about this [yeah, I do care about animals just as much as humans, so bite me].

If you have a dog or cat or horse or anything that you love dearly because they are their own little persons, imagine being in quarantine and what might happen to them. Considering a lot of people will say 'they are ONLY animals', they have no rights nor will anyone care. Well I do!

We have a number of cats, dogs, hogs, cows, chickens etc. We are taking this seriously and are stocking up on food for them all. So far we have 3 months stored and will be upping this to 6 months in the next few days. This will include cat litter, bin bags etc. We would buy these things anyway over time so it’s not wasted money. All you can do is prepare, stock up and hope it isn’t as bad as some fear. I’m on the fence currently, but it’s wise to prepare. Doesn’t hurt and better now than when actual panic erupts.

I just had contact with my PCB supplier in Shenzhen. She has confirmed to me that they are still closed and unable to work, but no real timeline for being able to return to work yet. She said that she is safe, as well as her coworkers. Not much else. Probably can't because of restrictions on what they can say. So not much new news, but confirmation from a personal source.

So what is the deal with the jump of 15K cases last night? I heard something about a new way of counting? Can someone fill me in?

originally posted by: jadedANDcynical
a reply to: Oppenheimer67


a reply to: revmoofoo

Apologies for being an ignorant American, but is this standard procedure for a disease that is what some think to be less severe than the common cold or any strain of flu?

Well you are clearly not ignorant. Modest, meek possibly? I'm trying to be more meek too lately...

Yes if this were akin to a cold or mild flu, but the measures being taken globally suggest it is much more than that. But besides that, this baby already has health problems so surely should be in hospital even if it's just as bad as the flu.

originally posted by: Oppenheimer67

originally posted by: jadedANDcynical
a reply to: Oppenheimer67


a reply to: revmoofoo

Apologies for being an ignorant American, but is this standard procedure for a disease that is what some think to be less severe than the common cold or any strain of flu?

Well you are clearly not ignorant. Modest, meek possibly? I'm trying to be more meek too lately...

Yes if this were akin to a cold or mild flu, but the measures being taken globally suggest it is much more than that. But besides that, this baby already has health problems so surely should be in hospital even if it's just as bad as the flu.

Agreed 100%. This baby should be in hospital receiving specialist care.

originally posted by: ARM1968

originally posted by: Hecate666
At this point I'd like to ask a question that some may find superflous and others may have asked themselves the same thing.
We are obviously talking a lot about human casualties or the quarantine, but when I pondered today what we would do if we were quarantined, I could not help getting worried about our animals.
Their food would soon run out and their bedding and poop litter.
We love them as our children [no children, I prefer animals], so I wouldn't know what to do. Would we have to watch them starve, would we have to put them down?
To me this is actually more scary than me catching this virus. After all, even if we don't catch it but are in quarantine, the animals will suffer just from the human panic alone and not from any illness.

I wonder what is happening in china with beloved pets?
I can imagine that a few ruthless people will just murder them, some even eat them. But what about those that really rely and love their pets?

I don't want stupid answers, or attempts at 'humour', I am really upset about this [yeah, I do care about animals just as much as humans, so bite me].

If you have a dog or cat or horse or anything that you love dearly because they are their own little persons, imagine being in quarantine and what might happen to them. Considering a lot of people will say 'they are ONLY animals', they have no rights nor will anyone care. Well I do!

We have a number of cats, dogs, hogs, cows, chickens etc. We are taking this seriously and are stocking up on food for them all. So far we have 3 months stored and will be upping this to 6 months in the next few days. This will include cat litter, bin bags etc. We would buy these things anyway over time so it’s not wasted money. All you can do is prepare, stock up and hope it isn’t as bad as some fear. I’m on the fence currently, but it’s wise to prepare. Doesn’t hurt and better now than when actual panic erupts.

I have a 90 day supply for my pets. This virus is artificially designed for 3 major cycles approx. 14-28 days per cycle. There is chatter that this could have a 4th cycle, but i can't confirm that yet.

edited to add: this is an intentional release of an artificial virus. This was not released by China

Connecting the dots...

ANOTHER BIO SCIENTIST DIES…

So, there you have it, a top Canadian scientist, working both in HIV and corona virus, and who was "the key" to the Chinese espionage story, apparently in good health, attends a conference in Nairobi where he has been trying to conduct HIV vaccine research, collapses, and dies.

No explanation given

Source

North Korea official suspected of having coronavirus 'shot dead for trip to public baths'

A trade official has reportedly been killed by a firing squad after defying coronavirus quarantine orders in the authoritarian Asian country, while a National Security Agency official was sent to work on a farm for similar offences

Media outlets in the North Korean capital have admitted that some citizens have been quarantined. Facing the possibility of the virus spreading through its population, the North Korean authority has taken some preventative measures.

www.mirror.co.uk...

on all the virus maps there are numbers for deaths, confirmed cases and suspected cases?

When is a case considered a suspected case and is this number still being updated? I know that in my country alone close to 100 tests have been done and yet the number of suspected cases remained 0 all the time. I mean, they wouldn't test someone if they didn't suspect infection?

a reply to: Hecate666

as I live in forest area, if the time comes that I'll be forced into quarantine, I guess I'll let my pets out in the wild and hope they will fend for themselves. The cats will do ok, not so sure about the dogs but at that point it'll be their only chance.

originally posted by: tennisdawg

originally posted by: ARM1968

originally posted by: Hecate666
At this point I'd like to ask a question that some may find superflous and others may have asked themselves the same thing.
We are obviously talking a lot about human casualties or the quarantine, but when I pondered today what we would do if we were quarantined, I could not help getting worried about our animals.
Their food would soon run out and their bedding and poop litter.
We love them as our children [no children, I prefer animals], so I wouldn't know what to do. Would we have to watch them starve, would we have to put them down?
To me this is actually more scary than me catching this virus. After all, even if we don't catch it but are in quarantine, the animals will suffer just from the human panic alone and not from any illness.

I wonder what is happening in china with beloved pets?
I can imagine that a few ruthless people will just murder them, some even eat them. But what about those that really rely and love their pets?

I don't want stupid answers, or attempts at 'humour', I am really upset about this [yeah, I do care about animals just as much as humans, so bite me].

If you have a dog or cat or horse or anything that you love dearly because they are their own little persons, imagine being in quarantine and what might happen to them. Considering a lot of people will say 'they are ONLY animals', they have no rights nor will anyone care. Well I do!

We have a number of cats, dogs, hogs, cows, chickens etc. We are taking this seriously and are stocking up on food for them all. So far we have 3 months stored and will be upping this to 6 months in the next few days. This will include cat litter, bin bags etc. We would buy these things anyway over time so it’s not wasted money. All you can do is prepare, stock up and hope it isn’t as bad as some fear. I’m on the fence currently, but it’s wise to prepare. Doesn’t hurt and better now than when actual panic erupts.

I have a 90 day supply for my pets. This virus is artificially designed for 3 major cycles approx. 14-28 days per cycle. There is chatter that this could have a 4th cycle, but i can't confirm that yet.

edited to add: this is an intentional release of an artificial virus. This was not released by China

Holy s.

Any clues as to who did it?