Corona Virus Updates Part 2

a reply to: papajj

Found a 2006 scientific study where they propose mixing coronavirus with HIV antigens in order to make an HIV vaccine. Maybe it didn't work as a vaccine but was further developed as a bioweapon?

Towards a Coronavirus-Based HIV Multigene Vaccine

Second, HCoV 229E structural genes can be replaced by multiple transcriptional units encoding various antigens.

The primary goal of the outlined approach is the
establishment of the coronavirus vector system and its
validation in a small animal model. If this approach is
feasible and effective, we should commence with the
development of HCoV 229E replicon-based VLPs
encoding several HIV antigens (env, gag and nef) in
combination with immunostimulatory molecules. The
successfully established packaging strategy will be
adapted to the HCoV 229E system and should allow
production of recombinant HCoV 229E VLPs

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...

a reply to: carewemust

That “America first” thing atm, has shown most of the allied nations that would mostly likely not be the case ( FYI , I’m not anti trump or USA but some of the actions over the past few years has shown that to be the case, sorry)

originally posted by: carewemust
Wouldn't the USA attempt to protect the rest of the world,...

LOL

haha, this made me laugh

a reply to: papajj

Hiv drugs being used to treat it are antiretroviral and although they don’t stop the progression of the disease they do reduce the viral load and delay the onset of aids
They are using it in the same capacity to try and kill the virus as they are powerful drugs, just because they take that approach doesn’t mean it’s a HIV virus ( although I personally haven’t seen any evidence to prove that either way)

www.healthline.com...-drug-classes

a reply to: Rich Z

Isn’t that what the “reclassification” of the infected and dead has effectively done, just more manipulating the figures?

Other details from the national update, including Hubei:
- 13,435 suspected cases (down by 2,632)
- 8,030 serious/critical (down by 174)
- 5,911 recovered (up by 1,171)

Steady decline ladies and gentlemen.
8 days in a row.

New SARS-CoV-2 cases in China OUTSIDE Hubei:
Feb 12th 312
Feb 11th 377
Feb 10th 370
Feb 9th 442
Feb 8th 505
Feb 7th 544
Feb 6th 696
Feb 5th 707
Feb 4th 685
Feb 3rd 888
Feb 2nd 722
Feb 1st 668
Jan 31th 755
Jan 30th 772
Jan 29th 715
Jan 28th 619
Jan 27th 480

a reply to: Necrose

Check todays numbers!
They are making headlines all over Europe

almost 15k new cases and 242 deaths, due to a new way of counting..

a reply to: Necrose

Still linear?

a reply to: Rich Z

I posted this earlier, about a possibility being that the Chinese have been given a previous vaccine, that is causing the extreme reaction when they catch the corona virus. Why others outside China only get the milder corona virus



jameslyonsweiler.com...

originally posted by: KindraLaBelle
a reply to: Necrose

Check todays numbers!
They are making headlines all over Europe

almost 15k new cases and 242 deaths, due to a new way of counting..

Yup, ran out of articles about cases in Europe because there are none at the moment

originally posted by: Adphil28
a reply to: Necrose

Still linear?

Linear decline, especially outside Hubei, yes.

originally posted by: Beltalowda
It's really disappointing to see this thread start going the way of all the ones in the mud pit. I just joined back up the other day after following this very informative thread for the last two weeks and now I'm starting to remember why I left ATS in the first place. Part one of this thread through about page 200 of this one is how ATS used to be. These last 100 pages are why I gave up on this forum. I hope things turn around and more than that I hope this very serious situation starts taking a turn in a positive direction for the sake of all of us. The sooner the better, I have better things to do with my time than sift through pages of petty bickering

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originally posted by: toysforadults
double the amount of deaths... did they reclassify the way they count deaths?

Yes I think they did ,so if someone died of a heart attack that was due to the corona virus it may have been recorded as death by heart attack now the WHO are there they are probably insisting that those deaths were actually due to the Corona virus . I would imagine to keep the numbers down they've been re- classifying deaths as as some kind of natural reason. Maybe the WHO looked at all the deaths in that region and could see the obvious spike in natural deaths and decided that these were more likely attributed to the virus. That's my guess anyway.

originally posted by: Necrose

Other details from the national update, including Hubei:
- 13,435 suspected cases (down by 2,632)
- 8,030 serious/critical (down by 174)
- 5,911 recovered (up by 1,171)

Steady decline ladies and gentlemen.
8 days in a row.

New SARS-CoV-2 cases in China OUTSIDE Hubei:
Feb 12th 312
Feb 11th 377
Feb 10th 370
Feb 9th 442
Feb 8th 505
Feb 7th 544
Feb 6th 696
Feb 5th 707
Feb 4th 685
Feb 3rd 888
Feb 2nd 722
Feb 1st 668
Jan 31th 755
Jan 30th 772
Jan 29th 715
Jan 28th 619
Jan 27th 480

My father like most fathers is right about EVERYTHING.
However my father is an extreme case, as he's also one of the most ignorant and bigoted people I've met.

You sound worse than him, never have I come across someone so desparate to be right.

Do you not see how embarrassingly immature it is to repeatedly try and 1 up people?

originally posted by: Necrose

originally posted by: KindraLaBelle
a reply to: Necrose

Check todays numbers!
They are making headlines all over Europe

almost 15k new cases and 242 deaths, due to a new way of counting..

Yup, ran out of articles about cases in Europe because there are none at the moment

Yeah true, there are no articles, not much anyway... but then again I seriously doubt that anything being discussed behind closed doors is going to make it to the public.

Like I said in a previous post about the EU meeting with health ministers that is going on right now: They are discussing the violation of human rights regarding the virus. The topic was briefly posted in the public agenda and then removed. Seems to me that EU has certain expectations about how this outbreak is going to continue. They won't say a word of it to the press later today

originally posted by: Necrose
China's National Health Commission has finally released an update: 312 new cases and 12 new deaths, adding to the 14,840 cases and 242 deaths reported in Hubei province earlier today

Those numbers... Beijing isn't even trying to put out believable figures anymore. A face that covered in bull# cant be saved.

US Must Prepare for Thousands of COVID-19 Cases in Coming Weeks, Experts Warn


Leading health experts warned on Feb. 12 that the United States could see thousands of cases of the new coronavirus, or COVID-19, and a significant surge in the spread of the virus in the coming weeks.

Speaking at the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee on Wednesday, Asha George, executive director of the Bipartisan Commission on Biodefense, said that the United States should be preparing ahead for cases of coronavirus in the thousands.

“I don’t think we should be planning for the onesie-twosie cases that we’ve been seeing thus far in the United States,” George said. “We have to plan for the possibility that we have thousands of cases.”

George, one of five panelists, warned of a large scale outbreak nationwide.

There has been no sign of sustained human-to-human transmission among known cases of the virus in the United States so far.

The 14th case of COVID-19 was confirmed by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on Wednesday. The individual was one of the Americans evacuated from Wuhan and quarantined in Southern California’s Marine Corps Air Station Miramar in San Diego County on Feb. 7.

Another evacuee at Air Station Miramar tested positive for the virus on Feb. 10.

But Scott Gottlieb, a former Food and Drug Administration commissioner, told the Senate committee that he expects a COVID-19 outbreak to emerge across the United States in the next two to four weeks.

www.theepochtimes.com...

a reply to: KindraLaBelle

A new way of counting only being used in Wuhan. The goal posts are inflated balloons on rollers at this point, both Beijing's goal posts and those of the ostriches who's safety bubble demands others join them in believing this is all overreaction and not a global crisis. If the numbers dont fit the desired outcome, Baghdad Bob your way towards a successful cock and bull story, I guess.

originally posted by: GoldGlobal
This is very interesting theory - prior vaccine could cause extreme immune response to virus -

jameslyonsweiler.com...

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Do you have the reference to the study you quoted? I didn't see it on the website linked. I'd like to read the whole thing. Thanks.

a reply to: GoldGlobal

Impossible! Keyboard warrior experts at forum message boards on the interwebs have already assured us they have personally verified the numbers and analyzed them and we are totally in the clear! Breathe easy and act relaxed so illusions of security aren't damaged and buried fear doesn't have to be dealt with in a mature manner.