Corona Virus Updates Part 2

a reply to: Phoenix

Not deriding it, just saying that the official stuff doesn't match it and doesn't match what we've been seeing in the rest of the world so far.

Something, somewhere doesn't match. That doesn't at all mean that what we're seeing leak isn't happening though. It just may mean there's an element missing that we're not aware of.

Obviously, we're not getting the correct numbers. We knew that the minute we knew the test kits were limited. It also never matched the response China's government was taking or the scenes we were seeing either one. But it also doesn't match the behavior of this thing after it has jumped borders so far.

So what's the missing piece? What is China really hiding?

**EDIT**

We better figure it out quick because China manufactures a lot of our basic medical equipment. With China shut down like it is, our supplies of things like gloves is going to be running out.

originally posted by: SpartanStoic
a reply to: TritonTaranis

Yes, unfortunately we didn’t get to speak longer so I could get more details different from what we have.

I didn’t want to push the issue with her having 2 kids and being away from her family and husband etc.

She did say quarantine was comfortable and the food was ok verging on good.

My wife will continue to chat with her as much as able.

I got the feeling her phone time was limited and maybe monitored. But maybe that’s my tin foil hat speaking.

Great job, great effort

I can only imagine her worry & confusion and you’ve been extremely well mannered and understanding with her

I don’t think you’re wrong about the latter either, as we know from 201 that would be their “high on the list objective and priority”, only...what they call fake news tackling, is code for suppression of the truth, they will want to control the situation and information... I completely understand it though and I do agree... I think it’s important, we’re not all built the same physically and mentally, panic is extremely dangerous to society, but I think many here are rather strong characters and truth seekers, if they wasn't, they wouldn’t be on a conspiracy website stoking and aggravating their condition

A few videos on masks and decontamination.

There were some other ones I watched that basically said to spray yourself all over with rubbing alcohol when you come home. Remove ppe, then wash hands.

An extra step would be to take off clothes, put them in bleach/antiviral water, then shower.

Coronavirus: what type of mask should you get
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Coronavirus mask fitting, pressure checks
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Four step removal of PPE
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Military mask decontamination
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Military decontamination protocol
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originally posted by: SpartanStoic
a reply to: TritonTaranis

Yes, unfortunately we didn’t get to speak longer so I could get more details different from what we have.

I didn’t want to push the issue with her having 2 kids and being away from her family and husband etc.

She did say quarantine was comfortable and the food was ok verging on good.

My wife will continue to chat with her as much as able.

I got the feeling her phone time was limited and maybe monitored. But maybe that’s my tin foil hat speaking.

If she is on base, then yes, monitored.

originally posted by: XCrycek

originally posted by: Foxtree
A school in Southampton uk has been closed due to coronavirus fears, letter from headteachers reads :

"I am sorry to inform you that a family with children at the prep and senior departments who have recently travelled to the region affected by coronavirus have developed symptoms similar to those presenting with the coronavirus, and having been checked by medical professionals at Southampton General Hospital have been placed in isolation."

www.dailyecho.co.uk...

They traveled recently? Effin morons

How "recently" did they travel I wonder...the roads have been closed down for about what, 2 weeks now? maybe a bit longer (I forget already). Something sure doesn't seem right about any of this.

originally posted by: musicismagic
New update : 1-12-2020 Tokyo time: noon time...

Well: at least you got the year right !

Not sure if this has been posted as it’s a rather fast paced thread STILL after 200 pages

But another CROWS video

HERE

a reply to: ketsuko

I hope I’m wrong but I fear I’m correct.

CCP continues to refuse releasing the animal samples from the meat market. Logically makes no sense, if some animals were contaminated then share it out.

Logically makes sense if the animals aren’t infected they would refuse to share those samples.

I still feel it came from the lab and was accidentally released. That is part of the missing piece IMHO but not all of it.

originally posted by: Nothin

originally posted by: musicismagic
New update : 1-12-2020 Tokyo time: noon time...

Well: at least you got the year right !

Well, I do try to get something right once a day LOL

Too much green tea this year does it during the winter months. Need some Nestles hot chocolate.

a reply to: SpartanStoic

Or else they're embarrassed because they don't have those samples or they're in a very, very poor state. It's also possible there are a lot of animals there that shouldn't be because after the swine epidemic, they stopped enforcing restriction that should be in place, so some of those samples show animals that China has said they're not trafficking anymore. So more face saving ... or ... if you want to put on some real tinfoil ... maybe it wasn't all animal meat ... Remember, they're short of protein, really, really, short.

Equally likely that if it came out of that lab, it was used test animals. Standard protocol is to destroy them. Again, they're short of protein. Really, really, short. But in that case, it doesn't have to be a bio weapon at all. But it's still more or less a natural process of zoonosis that way because there's no telling how whatever they were testing may or may not have changed in response to the test animal.

But that wasn't quite the missing piece I was talking about though. Sure the source of infection is important, but I'm talking what's causing it to be so deadly and contagious in Wuhan and other parts of China while the observed chains of infection in the rest of the world so far have been relatively mild by comparison.

We need to know why it's behaving like it is in China before that situation causes it to flare up in similar fashion elsewhere.

originally posted by: SpartanStoic
a reply to: ketsuko

I hope I’m wrong but I fear I’m correct.

CCP continues to refuse releasing the animal samples from the meat market. Logically makes no sense, if some animals were contaminated then share it out.

Logically makes sense if the animals aren’t infected they would refuse to share those samples.

I still feel it came from the lab and was accidentally released. That is part of the missing piece IMHO but not all of it.

There was something released showing it was 90% bats related and it come from outside of China

Still I don’t have the expertise to pick it apart

I do feel it is something which will be picked apart over the coming years though as it just doesn’t seem right

I just heard there is an outbreak in Brazil of something which has 90% unknown origins, I find this all hard to believe personally with all the other bird flu outbreaks

It’s like somethign(Mother Nature) or somebody is saying.. that’s enough time to cull the population

LINK

WTF?

A positive post for a change

This shows humanity doing what it does best in dire situations

Humour

Link

Fair play to them that’s the right attitude

a reply to: TritonTaranis

Couldn't get your link to work.

There is also an unknown disease outbreak in
Nigeria

a reply to: TritonTaranis

Basically, what they were saying is that the strain of corona virus this one is most closely related to resides normally in bats and infects them as its primary host.

Generally, this thing then likely passed through some other organism on its way to infecting a human which is where it picked up the rest of its mutations/RNA before jumping to humans.

This happens all the time with influenza strains. They hop from birds to pigs to people all the time and back and forth, round and round. The furthest a strain is from anything resembling a known human strain, the sicker it makes us when we get it. That's why this is making us so sick. It's not very closely at all related to any of the typical strains of corona virus that circulate seasonally in humans.

So it makes us very, very sick, and our immune systems will freak out the first time they see it making us feel that much worse. Between the two, it could kill us even with an even higher chance than regular corona virus. This happens every time a new strain of corona virus (or influenza for that matter) makes the jump from its usual animal host to people. In this case, it came from the bats, same with SARS. In the case of MERS, it jumped out of camels.

They still don't know what the intermediate host was. They are thinking it might be pangolins now, but they don't really know. Early on, they thought it might be snakes too, but it wasn't. And of course, people think it might be some kind of lab creation. Can't rule that one out for sure.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: SpartanStoic

Or else they're embarrassed because they don't have those samples or they're in a very, very poor state. It's also possible there are a lot of animals there that shouldn't be because after the swine epidemic, they stopped enforcing restriction that should be in place, so some of those samples show animals that China has said they're not trafficking anymore. So more face saving ... or ... if you want to put on some real tinfoil ... maybe it wasn't all animal meat ...

Remember, they're short of protein, really, really, short.

Equally likely that if it came out of that lab, it was used test animals. Standard protocol is to destroy them. Again, they're short of protein. Really, really, short. But in that case, it doesn't have to be a bio weapon at all. But it's still more or less a natural process of zoonosis that way because there's no telling how whatever they were testing may or may not have changed in response to the test animal.

But that wasn't quite the missing piece I was talking about though. Sure the source of infection is important, but I'm talking what's causing it to be so deadly and contagious in Wuhan and other parts of China while the observed chains of infection in the rest of the world so far have been relatively mild by comparison.

We need to know why it's behaving like it is in China before that situation causes it to flare up in similar fashion elsewhere.

Pandemic waves. Some suggest the West will likely be hit second wave. I read a paper on researchgate that previous pandemics suggested that first waves hit the poor nations and second waves hit the "rich" nations. Kinda like with the Spanish Flu when the US felt it had dodged the bullet because all of our cases were so mild and no larger clusters... at first.

Another positive post amongst the negatives

VIDEO

Great to see - worth a watch

Stefan Molyneux's hypothesis scenario & news analysis on the virus implications that may lead to a major collapse (economic & social).

The Truth About the Coronavirus - COLLAPSE?!
It's 55 min video. Starting at ~40:00 he gives an important history lesson comparison.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: TritonTaranis

Basically, what they were saying is that the strain of corona virus this one is most closely related to resides normally in bats and infects them as its primary host.

Generally, this thing then likely passed through some other organism on its way to infecting a human which is where it picked up the rest of its mutations/RNA before jumping to humans.

This happens all the time with influenza strains. They hop from birds to pigs to people all the time and back and forth, round and round. The furthest a strain is from anything resembling a known human strain, the sicker it makes us when we get it. That's why this is making us so sick. It's not very closely at all related to any of the typical strains of corona virus that circulate seasonally in humans.

So it makes us very, very sick, and our immune systems will freak out the first time they see it making us feel that much worse. Between the two, it could kill us even with an even higher chance than regular corona virus. This happens every time a new strain of corona virus (or influenza for that matter) makes the jump from its usual animal host to people. In this case, it came from the bats, same with SARS. In the case of MERS, it jumped out of camels.

They still don't know what the intermediate host was. They are thinking it might be pangolins now, but they don't really know. Early on, they thought it might be snakes too, but it wasn't. And of course, people think it might be some kind of lab creation. Can't rule that one out for sure.

IMO... pigs. Swine. Like always. Thyre mixing vessels.

It was a bat virus that moved into a swine farm. That was already known about this virus in 2018 in Guangdong. I linked it waaaay back.

a reply to: Advantage

Not so sure about that. It hit the soldiers in their camps. So it traveled along the routes of WWI.

Most of us on some level definitely secretly want something really bad to happen, but that's not because we're bad people. It's because that is human nature. We all have these conflicting thoughts that we are not proud of, you included.


a reply to: Flyingclaydisk