Corona Virus Updates Part 2

originally posted by: Necrose

originally posted by: TritonTaranis

originally posted by: Necrose

originally posted by: TritonTaranis

originally posted by: Oppenheimer67

originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: Oppenheimer67
I believe the 24 incubation period comes from this paper
www.medrxiv.org...
"The median incubation period was 3.0 days (range, 0 to 24.0 days)"

Thats the same paper - and again, it doesn't say anything whatsoever about how they arrived at the number '24' when they gave the range. And again, the rest of the numbers are actually very encouraging... only about 5% have serious complications requiring treatment (hospitalization), and only 1.3% die.

Yes but 93.6% of the cases are still in hospital so we are faced with the usual dilemmas debating the mortality rate. But very basic info from the paper should be safe enough. Wouldn't be so confident about 24 day incubation, but would certainly be on my mind if I ever needed to quarantine myself or anyone else.

Gave the wrong link before, that was just the abstract, here's full pdf. Useful data in the tables at the bottom.
www.medrxiv.org...

The illness lasts from symptoms to death 23 - 27 days

It seems when the flu like conditions materialise it’s just a few short days until the breathing pneumonia symptoms, hence the hundreds of videos of people dropping dead in there streets while China is waging a war on information

Now think of the hospital bed requirements

Lol just lol it’s staggering

FAKE AGAIN !! MISINFORMATION!

They're not dropping dead, they're losing consciousness because they're not used to breathing with a mask on.
Have you tried having a mask on all day?

BS lol lmao not used to breathing with a dust mask 😂😂😂😂😂😂

They’re dropping because you can show zero symptoms and then breathing difficulties arise, oxygen levels get dangerously low and they pass out

No. I see your medical background is non-existent here, but you can't just state such things without having a clue about pathophysiology of breathing.

Regarding the masks, please put the "dusk mask" on (you've already bought them so just put it on) and go run a mile around the corner, then keep it on for 6 hours doing your casual activities and report back to me.
What a clown, has no idea what breathing with a N95/N99 mask feels like, yet tries to prove he's right.

Ive worked 12 hours a day In one for 10 weeks spraying fire retardant steel protection, while working and breathing hard... you don’t lose continuances they’d be banned you fool

I’ve also had army training in gas chambers, with the British army, there are no cases which you describe you absolute fool

They’re dropping due to the symptoms late presenting, they’re walking around healthy... and then dropping due to lack of oxygen in the blood stream, you’re an absolute SHILL I don’t have to for the just flu brigade, I’m only giving information from ground zero and virologist and doctors who haven’t been wrong yet, everything we said early in this thread IS HAPPENING NOW

Go back and take a look, based on the information at hand, we predicted it’s severity and a mass pandemic spread, it is now in the USA & Europe via super spreaders, those people for the past 14 - 24 days at a high RO are infecting many others who won’t show till 14-24 by then YOURE DONE ✅

It will Mexican wave across the globe END OFF DEBATE

a reply to: Necrose

Just waiting for the op to whip out a graph that’s exponentially flat to go with the ops dumb post 😂😂

originally posted by: Foxtree
a reply to: Necrose

It was in an article today

www.independent.co.uk... ource=Twitter#Echobox=1581333612

"Analysis found that the average incubation period was three days - shorter than 5.2 days suggested in a previous paper - but the range of the a patient's incubation period could extend from zero to 24 days."

They just really don't want to be wrong in this study, do they? Saying it's actually shorter = 3 days, but then again 1 in 100,000 could be 20+ days.

A-L-I-B-I

originally posted by: Necrose

originally posted by: TritonTaranis

originally posted by: Necrose

originally posted by: TritonTaranis

originally posted by: Oppenheimer67

originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: Oppenheimer67
I believe the 24 incubation period comes from this paper
www.medrxiv.org...
"The median incubation period was 3.0 days (range, 0 to 24.0 days)"

Thats the same paper - and again, it doesn't say anything whatsoever about how they arrived at the number '24' when they gave the range. And again, the rest of the numbers are actually very encouraging... only about 5% have serious complications requiring treatment (hospitalization), and only 1.3% die.

Yes but 93.6% of the cases are still in hospital so we are faced with the usual dilemmas debating the mortality rate. But very basic info from the paper should be safe enough. Wouldn't be so confident about 24 day incubation, but would certainly be on my mind if I ever needed to quarantine myself or anyone else.

Gave the wrong link before, that was just the abstract, here's full pdf. Useful data in the tables at the bottom.
www.medrxiv.org...

The illness lasts from symptoms to death 23 - 27 days

It seems when the flu like conditions materialise it’s just a few short days until the breathing pneumonia symptoms, hence the hundreds of videos of people dropping dead in there streets while China is waging a war on information

Now think of the hospital bed requirements

Lol just lol it’s staggering

FAKE AGAIN !! MISINFORMATION!

They're not dropping dead, they're losing consciousness because they're not used to breathing with a mask on.
Have you tried having a mask on all day?

BS lol lmao not used to breathing with a dust mask 😂😂😂😂😂😂

They’re dropping because you can show zero symptoms and then breathing difficulties arise, oxygen levels get dangerously low and they pass out

No. I see your medical background is non-existent here, but you can't just state such things without having a clue about pathophysiology of breathing.

Regarding the masks, please put the "dusk mask" on (you've already bought them so just put it on) and go run a mile around the corner, then keep it on for 6 hours doing your casual activities and report back to me.
What a clown, has no idea what breathing with a N95/N99 mask feels like, yet tries to prove he's right.

I have worn full face respirators with 95 cartridges with an activated carbon layer for 8 hr shifts and I didn't collapse and die.

a reply to: slatesteam

This is not an extinction level event.

This Is How China Is Rigging The Number Of Coronavirus Infections

Zerohedge

Good description of how CCP redefined the numbers this morning to “show” a decrease but actually increasing their misreporting. Per article this is against WHO standards.

Typical moving the goal post and redefine the game.

Apologies if posted earlier, at work TLDR.

a reply to: TritonTaranis



This is your post.

originally posted by: TritonTaranis

originally posted by: Necrose

originally posted by: TritonTaranis

originally posted by: Necrose

originally posted by: TritonTaranis

originally posted by: Oppenheimer67

originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: Oppenheimer67
I believe the 24 incubation period comes from this paper
www.medrxiv.org...
"The median incubation period was 3.0 days (range, 0 to 24.0 days)"

Thats the same paper - and again, it doesn't say anything whatsoever about how they arrived at the number '24' when they gave the range. And again, the rest of the numbers are actually very encouraging... only about 5% have serious complications requiring treatment (hospitalization), and only 1.3% die.

Yes but 93.6% of the cases are still in hospital so we are faced with the usual dilemmas debating the mortality rate. But very basic info from the paper should be safe enough. Wouldn't be so confident about 24 day incubation, but would certainly be on my mind if I ever needed to quarantine myself or anyone else.

Gave the wrong link before, that was just the abstract, here's full pdf. Useful data in the tables at the bottom.
www.medrxiv.org...

The illness lasts from symptoms to death 23 - 27 days

It seems when the flu like conditions materialise it’s just a few short days until the breathing pneumonia symptoms, hence the hundreds of videos of people dropping dead in there streets while China is waging a war on information

Now think of the hospital bed requirements

Lol just lol it’s staggering

FAKE AGAIN !! MISINFORMATION!

They're not dropping dead, they're losing consciousness because they're not used to breathing with a mask on.
Have you tried having a mask on all day?

BS lol lmao not used to breathing with a dust mask 😂😂😂😂😂😂

They’re dropping because you can show zero symptoms and then breathing difficulties arise, oxygen levels get dangerously low and they pass out

No. I see your medical background is non-existent here, but you can't just state such things without having a clue about pathophysiology of breathing.

Regarding the masks, please put the "dusk mask" on (you've already bought them so just put it on) and go run a mile around the corner, then keep it on for 6 hours doing your casual activities and report back to me.
What a clown, has no idea what breathing with a N95/N99 mask feels like, yet tries to prove he's right.

Ive worked 12 hours a day In one for 10 weeks spraying fire retardant steel protection, while working and breathing hard... you don’t lose continuances they’d be banned you fool

I’ve also had army training in gas chambers, with the British army, there are no cases which you describe you absolute fool

They’re dropping due to the symptoms late presenting, they’re walking around healthy... and then dropping due to lack of oxygen in the blood stream, you’re an absolute SHILL I don’t have to for the just flu brigade, I’m only giving information from ground zero and virologist and doctors who haven’t been wrong yet, everything we said early in this thread IS HAPPENING NOW

Go back and take a look, based on the information at hand, we predicted it’s severity and a mass pandemic spread, it is now in the USA & Europe via super spreaders, those people for the past 14 - 24 days at a high RO are infecting many others who won’t show till 14-24 by then YOURE DONE ✅

It will Mexican wave across the globe END OFF DEBATE

Was it young healthy men, working on construction sites... or ELDERLY 60+ who were "dropping dead" on the streets of Wuhan?

I'm not not saying YOU would lose consciousness. It's just not the most pleasant feeling ever, is it? But a 70 year old obese woman with 10 other chronic diseases might find it significantly more difficult to deal with.

a reply to: Necrose

It's more like they really don't know.

There is no disease with zero incubation. Except maybe that zombie virus from WWZ, but even that one took a few seconds at least to totally hijack its host.

Can anybody remember the name of the British Dr who was giving advice and analysing nCoV data?

His YouTube account has been shut down

He was posted in this thread around 4/5 days ago, his videos were extremely informative

Link
m.youtube.com...

Around page 60-150 I think anybody?

a reply to: butcherguy

Same here, not once did I even get light headed.

Can wearing earplugs or earphones be just as good as putting hydraulic stuff in your ears? What about cotton wool?

I'm thinkin of putting cotton wool in mine when I travel around.

I have some goggles but may look a bit silly in them when travelling on transport but if they stop this virus getting into me, i'm prepared to look silly.

a reply to: Necrose

There are accounts from the 1918 epidemic of apparently healthy people showing first symptoms and dying within hours. There was an anecdote of a man in South Africa who got on a street car past the conductor who keeled over, saw four or five more keel over on the ride and continued on into his house. They dropped that quickly and suddenly sometimes.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: slatesteam

This is not an extinction level event.

Well, based on Triton's predictions, at least 20% of ATS members will die. So it kinda is.

originally posted by: JackBenimbel
I love you guys, and ATS.

Nowhere else do I know of any group or tribe of people so actively interested in getting to the bottom of what's really going on.. people doing research and sharing what they find with others. Sadly most of the world has their heads buried in the sand, and it can get lonely out there.

Keep doing what you're doing, and fight the good fight. Thank you all for all that you do.

That's all for now. Carry on, God Bless, and Godspeed.

Just crawling out of long time lurker mode for a moment to second this post.
And to post mark this thread. If I ever have anything relevant to add (before others get to it first) I'll try to do so.

originally posted by: slatesteam
a reply to: Oppenheimer67
This emerging pandemic and possible ELE nightmare scenario is not anything like the other narratives. Not by a long shot...

Do CT's ever not go for hyperbole when talking about scenarios?

For example from this post "possible ELE nightmare scenario" .

a reply to: Thoughtful1
Tech companies closing operations due to corona virus in China:
Apple
Samsung
Microsoft
TESLA... postponing model 3 deliveries
Google
With no specific reopening date.

We can expect shortages in VR headsets, smart phones, iPhones, Airpods and other tech accessories.
Facebook has stopped taking orders for oculus quest vr headsets.
Asus niche gaming ROG phone 11 is unavailable until further notice.
Week 2 of League of Legends tournaments indefinitely delayed.
Nintendo Switch console, games and accessories are also impacted.

These items are not essentials but...societal impact!
With people not working,new tech gadgets delayed, maybe some important tech delayed, entertainment such as tournaments cancelled, conferences cancelled, impact to travel industry, hotel industry etc. this whole issue will bring the corona virus issue too the forefront of the young. The users of the newest tech and games who have this technology as part of the fabric of their social groups.
This will become an issue. They are asleep and at this time are just waving it off with "oh just another disease". Maybe wolf was cried once too many times.

This information is posted in numerous media outlets. CNBC, GOOGLE
www.business insider.com
www.scmn.com
www.meercurynews.com
www.theverge.com

Some thoughts about this?

originally posted by: Necrose

originally posted by: Foxtree
a reply to: Necrose

It was in an article today

www.independent.co.uk... ource=Twitter#Echobox=1581333612

"Analysis found that the average incubation period was three days - shorter than 5.2 days suggested in a previous paper - but the range of the a patient's incubation period could extend from zero to 24 days."

They just really don't want to be wrong in this study, do they? Saying it's actually shorter = 3 days, but then again 1 in 100,000 could be 20+ days.

A-L-I-B-I

I think the point is 24 days is worth noting, but is far from gospel.

There are tables at the bottom of the paper, but that same 24 is given for all age ranges. How they measure this needs clarification. Did someone lock themselves away for 24 days then get sick and come immediately to hospital? Did this same thing happen to someone in all age ranges?? Very odd. There is useful data in this paper, but this part needs more info.

So it's fair for Necrose to argue that it is being taken too seriously, but at the same time it shouldn't be completely disregarded.

As for sudden deaths. There is evidence of this, possibly linked to Cytokine Storm or some other damage to the heart, but nothing solid. Videos of people dropping could be anything, let alone altogether fake. If they have pneumonia, masks would not help with their breathing. But there are many reasons why someone might drop. In a population of what 1.2 billion? Someone will be dropping somewhere for something completely unrelated. Right now people will film them for the clicks. Again, to be noted, but not yet proven.

originally posted by: TritonTaranis
Can anybody remember the name of the British Dr who was giving advice and analysing nCoV data?

His YouTube account has been shut down

He was posted in this thread around 4/5 days ago, his videos were extremely informative

Link
m.youtube.com...

Around page 60-150 I think anybody?

Dr. Paul Cottrell? Wasn't British tho.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Necrose

It's more like they really don't know.

There is no disease with zero incubation. Except maybe that zombie virus from WWZ, but even that one took a few seconds at least to totally hijack its host.

Bad viral infections can do that. Some people,when hit by a fever, don't immediately realize that they've been compromised. It has happened to me before. What really surprised me was later, after the fever passed it was BLATANTLY obvious that I had a bad fever..