Man shot by police after stabbings in London

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Breakthestreak

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Breakthestreak

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Breakthestreak

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Deplorable

originally posted by: Breakthestreak
Guns are not the issue

Islam is the issue

Not overly familiar with England. Visited there 40 years ago and 20 years ago. Not going to _ever_ visit there again. The place doesn't even look like the Aenglish even inhabit the island any longer. An invasion took place ... and 'they' lost.

Love it when racists don't even pretend not to be.

Glad your not over here because you sound like a moron.

Opposing Islam is not ‘racist’. Not by ANYBODY’S definition.

Amazingly Deplorable can tell peoples religion just by looking at them then?

And don't kind yourself. The anti muslim bigots are the exact same low intelligence cowards who previously hated and blamed Blacks/ Irish/Jews or whoever to cope with their own inadequacies.

Yes yes

People oppose nazism just to cope with their own inadequacies, right?

Hateful intolerant ideologies should always be opposed

Comparing a religioun of 1.8 billion people with nazism. That sounds an intelligent point...

Nazism has NOTHING on Islam
There is no comparison

Hateful intolerant ideologies are hateful intolerant ideologies

Islam is worse than nazism by a loooong shot

Blaming all Muslims for the actions of Islamic terrorists is like blaming all Europeans for the actions of the Nazu party.

I would point out how moronic that is but apparently on here It's ok to be a moronic bigot but not ok to point it out.

Defending a hateful intolerant ideology is most definitely moronic

But I see your point and I agree. However, the acceptance of hateful intolerant ideologies needs to be addressed.

Even if it’s “offensive”

I love it! he just got out of prison!!
will they never learn.

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Breakthestreak

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Breakthestreak

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Breakthestreak

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Deplorable

originally posted by: Breakthestreak
Guns are not the issue

Islam is the issue

Not overly familiar with England. Visited there 40 years ago and 20 years ago. Not going to _ever_ visit there again. The place doesn't even look like the Aenglish even inhabit the island any longer. An invasion took place ... and 'they' lost.

Love it when racists don't even pretend not to be.

Glad your not over here because you sound like a moron.

Opposing Islam is not ‘racist’. Not by ANYBODY’S definition.

Amazingly Deplorable can tell peoples religion just by looking at them then?

And don't kind yourself. The anti muslim bigots are the exact same low intelligence cowards who previously hated and blamed Blacks/ Irish/Jews or whoever to cope with their own inadequacies.

Yes yes

People oppose nazism just to cope with their own inadequacies, right?

Hateful intolerant ideologies should always be opposed

Comparing a religioun of 1.8 billion people with nazism. That sounds an intelligent point...

Nazism has NOTHING on Islam
There is no comparison

Hateful intolerant ideologies are hateful intolerant ideologies

Islam is worse than nazism by a loooong shot

Blaming all Muslims for the actions of Islamic terrorists is like blaming all Europeans for the actions of the Nazu party.

I would point out how moronic that is but apparently on here It's ok to be a moronic bigot but not ok to point it out.

What about the ones that treat women as property or worse. The ones that indoctrinate hatred in their children.

What if that was the majority?

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Zcustosmorum

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Zcustosmorum

Well I do understand that the Middle East was the only region on the planet that was at peace with itself and never had any wars or fought against each other so the introduction of western society is the only reason why they should kill innocent British civilians.

The "introduction of Western society" as you put it, is usually carried out through violence and there are many instances of this throughout history

So westerns bad. They cause Islamic idiots to stab innocent Britons.

Well actually no, "westerns" bad because they bomb innocent civilians, usually in the name of greed, and it's not much better from a moral point of view

originally posted by: Breakthestreak

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Breakthestreak

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Breakthestreak

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Breakthestreak

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Deplorable

originally posted by: Breakthestreak
Guns are not the issue

Islam is the issue

Not overly familiar with England. Visited there 40 years ago and 20 years ago. Not going to _ever_ visit there again. The place doesn't even look like the Aenglish even inhabit the island any longer. An invasion took place ... and 'they' lost.

Love it when racists don't even pretend not to be.

Glad your not over here because you sound like a moron.

Opposing Islam is not ‘racist’. Not by ANYBODY’S definition.

Amazingly Deplorable can tell peoples religion just by looking at them then?

And don't kind yourself. The anti muslim bigots are the exact same low intelligence cowards who previously hated and blamed Blacks/ Irish/Jews or whoever to cope with their own inadequacies.

Yes yes

People oppose nazism just to cope with their own inadequacies, right?

Hateful intolerant ideologies should always be opposed

Comparing a religioun of 1.8 billion people with nazism. That sounds an intelligent point...

Nazism has NOTHING on Islam
There is no comparison

Hateful intolerant ideologies are hateful intolerant ideologies

Islam is worse than nazism by a loooong shot

Blaming all Muslims for the actions of Islamic terrorists is like blaming all Europeans for the actions of the Nazu party.

I would point out how moronic that is but apparently on here It's ok to be a moronic bigot but not ok to point it out.

Defending a hateful intolerant ideology is most definitely moronic

But I see your point and I agree. However, the acceptance of hateful intolerant ideologies needs to be addressed.

Even if it’s “offensive”

Blame Islamic terrorists and those who support them as much as you like. We all should.

Blaming all Muslims however isn't just stupidly ill informed it also supports the actions of the terrorist by creating the very them v us divisions they want.

originally posted by: buddha
I love it! he just got out of prison!!
will they never learn.

I thought the Tories said that early release for terrorists would stop after the London Bridge attack?

CX.

Christ, this thread went of the rails. Im just gonna say that there MAY, be an issue withthe retraining program in prison as this is the seckns incident.

originally posted by: Wardaddy454

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Breakthestreak

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Breakthestreak

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Breakthestreak

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Deplorable

originally posted by: Breakthestreak
Guns are not the issue

Islam is the issue

Not overly familiar with England. Visited there 40 years ago and 20 years ago. Not going to _ever_ visit there again. The place doesn't even look like the Aenglish even inhabit the island any longer. An invasion took place ... and 'they' lost.

Love it when racists don't even pretend not to be.

Glad your not over here because you sound like a moron.

Opposing Islam is not ‘racist’. Not by ANYBODY’S definition.

Amazingly Deplorable can tell peoples religion just by looking at them then?

And don't kind yourself. The anti muslim bigots are the exact same low intelligence cowards who previously hated and blamed Blacks/ Irish/Jews or whoever to cope with their own inadequacies.

Yes yes

People oppose nazism just to cope with their own inadequacies, right?

Hateful intolerant ideologies should always be opposed

Comparing a religioun of 1.8 billion people with nazism. That sounds an intelligent point...

Nazism has NOTHING on Islam
There is no comparison

Hateful intolerant ideologies are hateful intolerant ideologies

Islam is worse than nazism by a loooong shot

Blaming all Muslims for the actions of Islamic terrorists is like blaming all Europeans for the actions of the Nazu party.

I would point out how moronic that is but apparently on here It's ok to be a moronic bigot but not ok to point it out.

What about the ones that treat women as property or worse. The ones that indoctrinate hatred in their children.

What if that was the majority?

Which is very little do with religion. Women have little better than property in western culture until relatively recently.

In my country , advanced western democracy, it was legal for husband to rape his wife in my lifetime.

If we want improve women's rights in islamic countries a divisive hatred of Muslims isn't the way to do it.

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: IAMALLYETALLIAM
a reply to: ScepticScot

I have absolutely no issue with Arabs, Turks, Bengali's, Malays, Indonesians etc. I do find all the instances of murder, gang rape, enslavement and other atrocities in the name of a religion quite disturbing.

Turn a blind eye and hate yourself and your culture if you want.

Claiming a religion is not as peaceful as we are forced to try and believe is not however, racist.

I love my culture and recognise it strengths. That why I don't live in fear of a pretend ' invasion' and feel the need to blame others out of fear.

Bad actions are conducted by individuals and groups of all races and religions. No excuse for stupid ill informed intolerance.

Point out in this thread or any other where I have stated fear of an 'invasion' .

You are correct that bad actions are conducted by individuals and groups of all races and religions. Difference is that in this day and age there's only one religion where stoning adulterous women to death, violent Jihad and medieval beliefs are endorsed the state. Many of them.

If you believe Islam is all peachy and has no requirement to join the 21st century then that is your purview that you are most entitled to just don't carry on like an 18 year old campus freshman that anybody casting a critical eye and asking valid questions of a religion that masquerades as peaceful is a 'racist, bigot cry cry cry cry'.

Grow up mate.

originally posted by: Zcustosmorum

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Zcustosmorum

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Zcustosmorum

Well I do understand that the Middle East was the only region on the planet that was at peace with itself and never had any wars or fought against each other so the introduction of western society is the only reason why they should kill innocent British civilians.

The "introduction of Western society" as you put it, is usually carried out through violence and there are many instances of this throughout history

So westerns bad. They cause Islamic idiots to stab innocent Britons.

Well actually no, "westerns" bad because they bomb innocent civilians, usually in the name of greed, and it's not much better from a moral point of view

Might be easier just to say "people bad". And they do things and use religion as an excuse, or they use peace as an excuse or they use cheese sandwiches as an excuse.

People are an ugly violent species.

We kill each other over skin color or beliefs.

Accept the fact that virtue signaling is just a weak-kneed pansy-candy-assed excuse for what all of our species does.

originally posted by: IAMALLYETALLIAM

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: IAMALLYETALLIAM
a reply to: ScepticScot

I have absolutely no issue with Arabs, Turks, Bengali's, Malays, Indonesians etc. I do find all the instances of murder, gang rape, enslavement and other atrocities in the name of a religion quite disturbing.

Turn a blind eye and hate yourself and your culture if you want.

Claiming a religion is not as peaceful as we are forced to try and believe is not however, racist.

I love my culture and recognise it strengths. That why I don't live in fear of a pretend ' invasion' and feel the need to blame others out of fear.

Bad actions are conducted by individuals and groups of all races and religions. No excuse for stupid ill informed intolerance.

Point out in this thread or any other where I have stated fear of an 'invasion' .

You are correct that bad actions are conducted by individuals and groups of all races and religions. Difference is that in this day and age there's only one religion where stoning adulterous women to death, violent Jihad and medieval beliefs are endorsed the state. Many of them.

If you believe Islam is all peachy and has no requirement to join the 21st century then that is your purview that you are most entitled to just don't carry on like an 18 year old campus freshman that anybody casting a critical eye and asking valid questions of a religion that masquerades as peaceful is a 'racist, bigot cry cry cry cry'.

Grow up mate.

Valid questions one thing.

Stupid ill informed bigotry another.

Maybe learn the difference.

a reply to: ScepticScot

Nobody is blaming all Muslims (like people blame ‘all right wingers).

But Islam espouses hate and intolerance. That’s a fact. It promotes rape, pedophilia, mysogony, homophobia and murder.

That’s a fact. And no, no other religion is even close to being comparable.

Islam is bad for humanity. Like nazism. And should not be tolerated.

Just my opinion

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Wardaddy454

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Breakthestreak

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Breakthestreak

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Deplorable

originally posted by: Breakthestreak
Guns are not the issue

Islam is the issue

Not overly familiar with England. Visited there 40 years ago and 20 years ago. Not going to _ever_ visit there again. The place doesn't even look like the Aenglish even inhabit the island any longer. An invasion took place ... and 'they' lost.

Love it when racists don't even pretend not to be.

Glad your not over here because you sound like a moron.

Opposing Islam is not ‘racist’. Not by ANYBODY’S definition.

Amazingly Deplorable can tell peoples religion just by looking at them then?

And don't kind yourself. The anti muslim bigots are the exact same low intelligence cowards who previously hated and blamed Blacks/ Irish/Jews or whoever to cope with their own inadequacies.

Yes yes

People oppose nazism just to cope with their own inadequacies, right?

Hateful intolerant ideologies should always be opposed

Comparing a religioun of 1.8 billion people with nazism. That sounds an intelligent point...

Grand Mufti al-Husseini was pretty fond of Hitler back in the day...

So was Ghandi at one point and quite a few US politicians. The relevance is?

We've got US politicians now that favor Stalinist Communism, so that isn't saying much.

As for Ghandi, context is important. Gandhi considered Hitler a tyrant, a vow-breaker, an aggressor, and a persecutor of the Jews. But he thought Hitler could be appealed to using nonviolence. Lets not name drop people for shock factor and then ignore the context.

a reply to: ScepticScot

Opposing Islam is most definitely not ‘bigotry’

Not by anybody’s definition

a reply to: DBCowboy

People are an ugly violent species.

We kill each other over skin color or beliefs.

Accept the fact that virtue signaling is just a weak-kneed pansy-candy-assed excuse for what all of our species does.

You're being played by those above you if you truly believe that crap.

Not all people are "ugly and violent" and "we" is not representative of everybody

originally posted by: Breakthestreak
a reply to: ScepticScot

Nobody is blaming all Muslims (like people blame ‘all right wingers).

But Islam espouses hate and intolerance. That’s a fact. It promotes rape, pedophilia, mysogony, homophobia and murder.

That’s a fact. And no, no other religion is even close to being comparable.

Islam is bad for humanity. Like nazism. And should not be tolerated.

Just my opinion

People on this thread are blaming all Muslims.

The bible is full of all those things as well. Unsurprisingly as Islam and Christianty areclose cousins.

a reply to: ScepticScot

Quote my "stupid, ill informed bigotry"

All you have done is resort to name calling. Quite typical of those who consider themselves morally superior when they've got no facts to corroborate their claims.

originally posted by: PhyllidaDavenport
a reply to: alldaylong

They haven't been doing this on mainland Britain and are very small, nor have they been bombing stabbing and macheting mainland Britain for the last 20yrs

Also like to add that they called in before they detonated bombs, so people were usually warned. We lived above a shopping centre [Wood Green], when two bombs went off in the early 90s. Our lampshades swayed and we weren't allowed out the whole day as the road was cordoned off. Later on I developed shell shock even though I wasn't actually scared, only for a few minutes when it happened because I thought it would cave in. Point is, nobody died as they were forewarned and all shops were empty.
Muslim terrorists just walk around with machetes in their hands, shouting and trying to chop people's heads off unexpected.
Terrorism sucks and none are 'better' but I'm rather forewarned because someone tries to make a point, than murdered randomly, because of the hate for our culture and existence.
One is highly annoying, the other is just outright war and cowardly murder.

originally posted by: Breakthestreak
a reply to: ScepticScot

Opposing Islam is most definitely not ‘bigotry’

Not by anybody’s definition

Depends what you mean by opposing. If you single out people of a single religion then it very much is bigotry.

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Wardaddy454

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Breakthestreak

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Breakthestreak

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Breakthestreak

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Deplorable

originally posted by: Breakthestreak
Guns are not the issue

Islam is the issue

Not overly familiar with England. Visited there 40 years ago and 20 years ago. Not going to _ever_ visit there again. The place doesn't even look like the Aenglish even inhabit the island any longer. An invasion took place ... and 'they' lost.

Love it when racists don't even pretend not to be.

Glad your not over here because you sound like a moron.

Opposing Islam is not ‘racist’. Not by ANYBODY’S definition.

Amazingly Deplorable can tell peoples religion just by looking at them then?

And don't kind yourself. The anti muslim bigots are the exact same low intelligence cowards who previously hated and blamed Blacks/ Irish/Jews or whoever to cope with their own inadequacies.

Yes yes

People oppose nazism just to cope with their own inadequacies, right?

Hateful intolerant ideologies should always be opposed

Comparing a religioun of 1.8 billion people with nazism. That sounds an intelligent point...

Nazism has NOTHING on Islam
There is no comparison

Hateful intolerant ideologies are hateful intolerant ideologies

Islam is worse than nazism by a loooong shot

Blaming all Muslims for the actions of Islamic terrorists is like blaming all Europeans for the actions of the Nazu party.

I would point out how moronic that is but apparently on here It's ok to be a moronic bigot but not ok to point it out.

What about the ones that treat women as property or worse. The ones that indoctrinate hatred in their children.

What if that was the majority?

Which is very little do with religion. Women have little better than property in western culture until relatively recently.

In my country , advanced western democracy, it was legal for husband to rape his wife in my lifetime.

If we want improve women's rights in islamic countries a divisive hatred of Muslims isn't the way to do it.

Has everything to do with it. Islam is the only mainstream religion to not undergo any kind of "age of enlightenment".

Do you think it's time for some of the tenets in the Quaran to be modernized?