China has quarantined the city of Wuhan.

"Hubei has begun shutting down highways within the province and Wuhan has started closing highway exits leaving the city."
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Interesting article saying that the Wuhan quarantine is either a crazy response that's basically impossible to implement, or not crazy because things are way worse than China is admitting.

Would the Coronavirus Quarantine of Wuhan Even Work?

It’s almost impossible to shut down a megacity. And even if you do, people (and their germs) would find a way out.

"Guan Yi, virologist who helped id SARS, says he fears scale of Wuhan Coronavirus could be 10x larger than SARS."

"Wuhan lockdown not likely to be effective because optimum time to control the spread of Coronavirus is already over, he says."

Caixin Chinese media

a reply to: EndtheMadnessNow

Yet some people here will try to compared the total consequences of sars to 1 month of CV. But thanks for sharing this hopefully people will stop down playing the event.

Here are the offcial numbers once more for the diehards to put things in perspective:

Sars, First 3 months:
304 cases, 5 dead
Percentage of dead: 1.6%

CV, First 1 month:
555 cases, 17 dead
Percentage of dead: 3%

CV upscaled by 3:

1665 cases, 51 dead

CV spreading 5 times faster and is twice as lethal.

originally posted by: EndtheMadnessNow
All the twitterFear hype reminds me of a movie.

Well so does people suggesting you kill pneumonia with honey.... very Jude Law’ish

So nice to see all the professionals here. I know I'm in good hands.

No one was screened in the UK arriving from China


Seriously ?! Regular arrival with no screening ?


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So it's in UK and now just wait what happens ....London is a big place with a lot people.

I wonder if China is releasing such organizisms for research and weaponisation or if it's a coincidence...

For the past 15,000 years, a glacier on the northwestern Tibetan Plateau of China has hosted a party for some unusual guests: an ensemble of frozen viruses, many of them unknown to modern science.

Scientists recently broke up this party after taking a look at two ice cores from this Tibetan glacier, revealing the existence of 28 never-before-seen virus groups. 

Ancient never-before-seen viruses discovered locked up in Tibetan glacier
By Laura Geggel 22 January 2020

a reply to: ADVISOR

That just seems insane to open that, especially if it wasn't done in the absolute cutting edge of scientific labs.

Some great, up to date information:

This estimate is based on the following assumptions:

Wuhan International Airport has a catchment population of 19 million individuals [1].

There is a mean 10-day delay between infection and detection, comprising a 5-6 day incubation period [16,17] and a 4-5 day delay from symptom onset to detection/hospitalisation of a case (the cases detected in Thailand and Japan were hospitalised 3 and 7 days after onset, respectively) [4,18].

Total volume of international travel from Wuhan over the last two months has been 3,301 passengers per day.

This estimate is derived from the 3,418 foreign passengers per day in the top 20 country destinations based on 2018 IATA data [19], and uses 2016 IATA data held by Imperial College London to correct for the travel surge at Chinese New Year present in the latter data (which has not happened yet this year) and for travel to countries outside the top 20 destination list.

Exit screening (which reportedly came into force on the 15th January [13]) had no impact on exported cases reported up to 16th January. Exit screening may have reduced exports in recent days, in which case our baseline prediction may be an underestimate of the true number of cases in Wuhan.

We assume all cases in travellers flying to destinations outside mainland China are being detected at those destinations. This may well not be the case. If cases are being missed in other countries, our baseline prediction will underestimate the true number of cases in Wuhan.
We now report uncertainty as the range spanned by the 95% confidence intervals of the first three scenarios in Table 1. Thus, our uncertainty range represents uncertainty in key assumptions as well as statistical assumptions.

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BREAKING: Second Chinese city, Huanggang, will be put on lockdown from midnight to prevent the spread of coronavirus

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a reply to: AndyFromMichigan

Time to panic?

no

Wuhan eh...



"I go first, Indy"

originally posted by: Agit8dChop

BREAKING: Second Chinese city, Huanggang, will be put on lockdown from midnight to prevent the spread of coronavirus

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I was trying to post this a while ago but ATS shat the bed as it often does and wouldn't load.

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I read there are 2 cases in Vietnam and one unconfirmed case in Mexico.

Also, three Chinese cities on lockdown now...

originally posted by: texasgirl
I read there are 2 cases in Vietnam and one unconfirmed case in Mexico.

Also, three Chinese cities on lock down now...

ok maybe the idea of panic should be considered.

or at least some nervous caution..



scrounger

Wuhan metropolitan area quarantined, that includes Huanggang City and Erzu. About 20 million people. Inner city bus stopped, restaurants closed, movie theaters closed, rail and airports closed.

I’ve been to Wuhan and don’t think they can effectively close the roads but they could cutoff the major highways.

Also don’t know where those SARS numbers are from that people are posting but the official mortality rate is 9.6%. I would personally change that to at least 20% based on the dishonesty of the Chinese govt. Normal CCP procedure is all bad numbers slashed by half or 2/3rds.

Coronavirus refers to the Genus, there are a number of different Species of the virus.
There are 7 species that are pathogenic to humans.
Of the 7 species, 4 are of the common human type (HCoV), these can be the cause of a common cold and in extreme cases pneumonia.
1/ 229E (alpha coronavirus)
2/ NL63 (alpha coronavirus)
3/ OC43 (beta coronavirus)
4/ HKU1 (beta coronavirus)

The other 3 species originated from animals and have leaped over to humans, as such, these virus are much more dangerous. These can cause cold like symptoms but may often result in pneumonia and even kidney failure.
5/ MERS-CoV (the beta coronavirus that causes Middle East Respiratory Syndrome, or MERS)
6/ SARS-CoV (the beta coronavirus that causes severe acute respiratory syndrome, or SARS)
7/ 2019 Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV/ Wuhan-Hu-1)

2019 Novel (new) Coronavirus (2019-nCoV/ Wuhan-Hu-1) is more than a common cold or even a really bad one, it is more like SARS or MERS.

originally posted by: SpartanStoic
Wuhan metropolitan area quarantined, that includes Huanggang City and Erzu. About 20 million people. Inner city bus stopped, restaurants closed, movie theaters closed, rail and airports closed.

I’ve been to Wuhan and don’t think they can effectively close the roads but they could cutoff the major highways.

Also don’t know where those SARS numbers are from that people are posting but the official mortality rate is 9.6%. I would personally change that to at least 20% based on the dishonesty of the Chinese govt. Normal CCP procedure is all bad numbers slashed by half or 2/3rds.

The top bit is all true but I was under the impression transport in and out has been closed as there's fears of food shortage emerging. Apparently government have confirmed complete lockdown of road, rail, boat and plane travel out the lockdown provinces.

The lockdown is rumoured to last at least 40 days as an estimated 3 billion visits/travels are estimated to occur in the peak 40-day celebrations.

Not too sure on the mortality rate stats as unofficial expert estimates were at least 4000 yesterday 97 critical and 17 dead, probably 20 - 30,000 by now due to exponential spread. It certainly seem to have been downplayed but I imagine te vast majority are mild cases that require no medical assistance.

Bill Gates warns that the next pandemic disease is coming: (April 2018)

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Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation holds pandemic exercise in October 2019:

www.centerforhealthsecurity.org...

Weird timing...


And didn't he invest in a patent for coronavirus?

Reports of Winnie the Pooh upset at snot in the honey.
Quarantining sneezers.

Any one who has played or owns the Tom Clancy Division or Division 2 knows how this plays out.

If you are not familiar, search for Operation Dark Winter and Directive 51.

Also don't forget, super resistant bugs were made by the military. And here millennials are worried about a nuclear incident causing the world to end, when it was a symptom.