Reports: Iraq's al Asad airbase is under rocket attack

a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

CNN are also reporting that not only where the Americans given a warning but also that Iran deliberately missed any American personal.

Odd. Last night CNN had people on who were saying pretty unequivocally that the systems Iran has aren’t precise enough to “intentionally miss” a target with a high enough degree of probability to ensure success. They may have “aimed to miss” with their attack, but their attack was as likely to hit Americans as it was to not.

The fact that they didn’t kill any Americans is more thanks to sheer dumb luck than skill and intent. So says CNN less than 8 hours ago.

So Iran blinked first ?

And we have lots of parts to their missiles to figure them out.

originally posted by: mikell
And we have lots of parts to their missiles to figure them out.

Made in Russia.

They just slapped an Iranian label on it.

originally posted by: neo96
So Iran blinked first ?

They did what they had to do to respond to american aggression , it was a token gesture they had to make.
If nothing else it gives both sides a chance to back down from what would be a bloody conflict.

a reply to: gortex

It wasn't American aggression.

Why do people ignore the last 50 years?

a reply to: gortex

*shakes head*

So what was the attack by Iran that killed an American?

What was the attack on the embassy?

You seem so quick to assign blame to America, yet ignore Iranian aggression.

a reply to: DBCowboy

You seem so quick to assign blame to America, yet ignore Iranian aggression.

Because america has orchestrated this situation by pulling out of a deal that Iran was abiding by then imposing sanctions in an attempt to cripple their economy , the blame is america's , or rather trump and the people he has surrounded himself with like Pompeo who have an ideological desire to do an Iraq on Iran.

*yawn*

Anyone want to fill me in? Does Iran still exist, or is Iraq beachfront now? Has Iran wiped out American forces in the Middle East? Did Russia decide to deploy all their nukes at once and crack the planet in two?

No? Hmmm...

Let's see... Iran lobbed 15 missiles at Iraqi military bases where Americans were housed, and managed to kill... nobody. They apparently screwed up and shot down one of their own passenger planes (gun control anyone?). Now we have reports that Iraq knew ahead of time this was coming.

Now what makes more sense... that the mighty Iran is such a poor shot that they couldn't hit the broad side of a barn if they were standing inside it, and that they consider a few more potholes in an already pothole-filled country proper retaliation for us supposedly murdering their precious terrorist leader in cold blood, or...

This was an attempt to draw out Trump, get him to strike back, and thus pull that Russian bear into the fray?

I'd say the latter, but that's just me.

It sounds to me that Iraq is actually still supporting the US, since they apparently leaked the info to us, and that Iran wants war, as long as big bad Mama Russia is backing them up. It also tells me Putin is not completely sold on direct military backing for Iran... else there would have been no need for martyrdom to get them involved. I'm actually wondering if those two earthquakes were not underground bombs set off to make it look like America was targeting a nuke plant? Just speculation on my part there...

Oh, and it serves as pretty good evidence that Trump is not a war-monger... he could have easily wiped out Tehran last night. He has that power. I for one am glad he didn't use it. Your mileage may vary.

TheRedneck

a reply to: gortex

You sound disappointed... not enough blood spilt last night for you?

TheRedneck

a reply to: gortex

Again, you ignore the REASONS for the sanctions and go straight to "American aggression."

I get it. You think America is bad.

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: DBCowboy

You seem so quick to assign blame to America, yet ignore Iranian aggression.

Because america has orchestrated this situation by pulling out of a deal that Iran was abiding by then imposing sanctions in an attempt to cripple their economy , the blame is america's , or rather trump and the people he has surrounded himself with like Pompeo who have an ideological desire to do an Iraq on Iran.

Whilst all you have said here is correct, you can't fault the US for taking out Sulemaini. If it was a random Iranian politician, the hit would not have happened. Because it was the head of a force that for over 20 years have been proxy sponsors of terrorists you can't compare it to a normal Iranian politican. If you play with fire, you tend to get burnt.

a reply to: TheRedneck

You sound disappointed... not enough blood spilt last night for you?

I'm neither disappointed nor surprised , what happened last night was as expected.

a reply to: gortex

I didn't expect IRan to be this smart.



For all their blustering.

It's been 33 pages so I might have missed it...

Anyone consider why a civilian airliner with passengers was taking off during the height of the festivities?

The FAA sealed off the region almost immediately. There were reports of Iranian fighters and F-35's in the airspace.

It just seems incongruent unless something else was in play. My 2 cents.

a reply to: DBCowboy

You think America is bad.

History says america is bad , what I think doesn't change history.

a reply to: ABNARTY

The aircraft departed after they stopped launching missiles going by the timeline I've seen. It was business as usual at the airport. There was an unknown delay of an hour between scheduled departure and actual departure.

a reply to: ABNARTY

Wouldn't surprise one bit if that plane was full of Ukrainian nuke or rocket engineers working for Tehran nand taken out by 'some' foreign agency

a reply to: gortex

I'm neither disappointed nor surprised , what happened last night was as expected.

So you never expected Iran to be capable of actually hitting targets then? You expected Donald Trump to show some restraint?

Interesting... tell us more about how impotent Iran is and about how Donald Trump was trying to avoid war all along?

TheRedneck

Ukraine International Airlines flight PS752 to Kyiv went down after taking off from Imam Khomeini airport in Tehran at 06:12 local time (02:42 GMT).

The majority of passengers were from Iran and Canada.

Ukraine's Tehran embassy initially blamed engine failure but later removed the statement.

It said any comment regarding the cause of the accident prior to a commission's inquiry was not official.

Ukraine's president, Volodymyr Zelensky, warned against "speculation or unchecked theories regarding the catastrophe" until official reports were ready.

Iranian media blamed technical problems and quoted an aviation official who said no emergency had been declared.

In a sign of the potential difficulties facing crash investigators, the head of Iran's civil aviation organisation was quoted as saying the Ukrainian plane's black box would not be handed over, either to Boeing or the Americans.

Among the victims were 82 Iranians, 63 Canadians, 11 Ukrainians including all nine crew, 10 Swedes, four Afghans, three Britons and three Germans, Ukrainian Foreign Minister Vadym Prystaiko said.

www.bbc.com...

Yeah I'd say fratricide.