Our Suns Binary and Spiritual Second Sun (Coverup)

originally posted by: purplemer
a reply to: KKLOCO

u’re right, Phage. Everything has a mundane explanation! Bright twinkly stars, in the night sky.... is the WHOLE reason the ancients, all over the separated planet — venerated the cosmos. Ummm okay.

Yes and they liked to build pryamids all over the earth and line them up with true north. The liked to worship the same Gods and gave the same names and attributes to the 7 visible planets and stars. They all said that spirtual teachers came down from the heavens and parted on us knowledge, spirtuality, mathematics etc...

but as some of historians like to think maybe they made this # up just to troll us.

Indeed. These are the same scholars who insist that the pyramid was built in twenty years using hand tools and that they are merely tombs. We should not accept that everything they say is correct. They are obviously wrong about some of the basics so it stands to reason that there is a lot more they are wrong about. Touting information from these people as the absolute truth would be foolish.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: fluff007
Purplemer is in no way making things up at all. If you could be bothered to go and do some research then you would find much truth in what's been said.

How do you 'research' a star 7+ lightyears from here being in a binary system with our own when it isn't? Please, oh wise one, tells us all how this works.

You want to believe that then knock yourself out.

On the flip side of this how can you know it isn't true? You seem very certain considering you have just said yourself that we can't know it to be true.

I've just read this whole thread and I would have to agree with fluff.....why are you here? The only thing you have displayed is a quite staggering level of arrogance and rudeness. Rarely have I seen one who is so close-minded. I think you need to remove your crown chakra from your root chakra. You might learn something then.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: vethumanbeing
I hear the fear (truth not yet EVEN SPOKEN!) in your thoughts and also those that 'starred' your post.

Ohhhh, you got me. The secret Masonic teachings are that not only is our sun part of a binary system with Sirius, BUT, here's the bigger news, you can actually go swimming 29 minutes after you eat.

Exactly what I'm talking about. You act as if you know every single thing there is to know about secret teachings. I highly doubt you do judging by your snide, sarcastic tone. That's certainly not the attitude I would expect from one so knowledgable in these teachings. What do I know though, I'm not you and therefore obviously a moron.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus


You can't research something that doesn't exist. .

Guess how you prove things exist for the first time?

originally posted by: Sirstudly

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus


You can't research something that doesn't exist. .

Guess how you prove things exist for the first time?

Are you talking about science, or religion?

a reply to: cherokeetroy

Great post good sir!

We’ve been taught about ‘outer space’, ‘planets’, ‘the universe’, etc…but have you ever been to another planet or verified any of this for yourself? I haven’t.

I've said this for years! Par example; NASA and their images of all the plantes, stars etc - they got super hot CGI these days - I can't get there so how can I know?

Which leads me to this bit;

But what are ‘facts’, really? Aren’t facts just a collection of information that we choose to believe as true? Think about all the facts that you accept as truth that you have never physically verified for yourself.

I've spent the last couple of years deeply researching this Sirius mystery and my goodness it truly is some mystery. However along the way particularly the last few months I have been relearning words and their actual original meaning/concept etc.

The only 'facts' I ever truly have are those I experience. I trust my own phenomenon more than anything else. Which brings me to this beautiful word;

Phenomenon - it doesn't mean super amazing like we've been taught - check this out!

phenomenon (n.) 1570s, "fact, occurrence," from Late Latin phænomenon, from Greek phainomenon "that which appears or is seen," noun use of neuter present participle of phainesthai "to appear," passive of phainein "bring to light, cause to appear, show" (from PIE root *bha- (1) "to shine"). Meaning "extraordinary occurrence" first recorded 1771. Plural is phenomena.

www.etymonline.com...

I'm currently delving into one of Jung's Collected Works - Aion: Researches into the Phenomenology of Self - fascinating!!

You and I both know that the authority figures on this planet have lied to us and continue to lie. The question is how much have they lied and what have they lied about? IMO, it’s time to take back the trust that we have misplaced in them and reinvest it into ourselves. It’s time to stand up and reclaim our true power over this place

Yes yes and yes! We are waking up, the archetypal powers will come to light and we are already trying to take our power back...

Thank you cherokee for your post...

a reply to: Phage

Are you talking about science, or religion?

Tell me is there really a difference oh great priest of science. At the end of the day science is a belief system too. Its a religion with a difference. It takes the soul out of man. But its still a religion. It allows you to understand the exoteric but gives you no tools to understand the esoteric. There is nothing wrong with this except the peeps that use it often dont understand the limitation of the tool they use.

You really think its any different to religion. You believe in a universe made of dark matter. Something you cannot see, smell or touch but something you need to exist for your religion to have credence.

As C.S.Lewis put it. Give me one miracle and I will prove the rest. You have had lots more than one miracle.

a reply to: purplemer

Big difference.

Religion requires no evidence. Only faith.

Faith in claims like the Sun, Earth, and Sirius coming into "alignment." Ever.
Faith that a star can orbit another star more than 8 light years distant.

originally posted by: Phage

originally posted by: Sirstudly

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus


You can't research something that doesn't exist. .

Guess how you prove things exist for the first time?

Are you talking about science, or religion?

In this context I am referring to the binary system. Indeed,we must research something which may not exist to prove see if it does or not. Augustus knowitall seems certain it doesn't exist. This makes him very foolish as he is ad ignorant as the rest of us to the actual facts of the situation. At least purplemer isasking the question.

a reply to: Sirstudly

Indeed,we must research something which may not exist to prove see if it does or not.

Do you think that it is physically feasible for one star to orbit another at a distance of more than 8 light years? Do you think that it is physically possible for such an orbit to be completed in 24,000 years?

Physics says not. What say you?

a reply to: Phage

There's an argument for all celestial objects being in a cosmic dance, interdependent on their relative motion. All we have is perception, something i personally think could well be flawed and missing huge pieces of the grand scheme. Like a worm without eyes i suspect there are realms outwith our measurement.

Most sources that aren't a prolific source of new age astronomy which ignores established physics agree that "Nemesis" aka the sister star to our Sun is a hypothetical body that remains undiscovered by modern technology. Many stars have siblings, but sadly the one we owe our daylight to is not one of them.

a reply to: Grenade

So. You're more on the religion side when it comes to celestial mechanics. Gravity be damned, objects in space will do what they will.

That Voyager mission was pretty cool though, using gravity to make the Grand Tour before leaving the Solar System. Gravity seems to have worked pretty well for that.

a reply to: TzarChasm

Nemesis was tossed out as a possibility quite a while ago. Matese and Whitmire (the guys who hypothesized it) agreed and produced Tyche (taadaa!) as another possibility. Tyche too, is no more, thanks to WISE.

There is a chance that there is a large planet (a superearth) in the far reaches of the Solar System but a star? Nope.

originally posted by: Grenade
a reply to: Phage

There's an argument for all celestial objects being in a cosmic dance, interdependent on their relative motion. All we have is perception, something i personally think could well be flawed and missing huge pieces of the grand scheme. Like a worm without eyes i suspect there are realms outwith our measurement.

There's an argument for everything if you get enough drink going around.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: TzarChasm

Nemesis was tossed out as a possibility quite a while ago. Matese and Whitmire (the guys who hypothesized it) agreed and produced Tyche (taadaa!) as another possibility. Tyche too, is no more, thanks to WISE.

There is a chance that there is a large planet (a superearth) in the far reaches of the Solar System but a star? Nope.

I was commenting on the binary system concept where our sun shares an orbit with another star, presumably a red dwarf. But as I said, it's more myth than not.

a reply to: TzarChasm

A red dwarf is a star and there isn't one near enough to be a binary twin of Sol.

a reply to: Phage

Religion requires no evidence. Only faith.

You must have faith in dark matter then Phage? Cause without it you're belief system falls apart...

Faith in claims like the Sun, Earth, and Sirius coming into "alignment." Ever. Faith that a star can orbit another star more than 8 light years distant.

I'm sure many parts of the Universe orbit other parts of the Universe in ways we do not yet understand. As pointed out by purplemer. We've only realised that most stars are binary in the last decade or so. We don't yet have the data...

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: TzarChasm

A red dwarf is a star and there isn't one near enough to be a binary twin of Sol.

That's what I said. Lol...

a reply to: fluff007

You must have faith in dark matter then Phage?

In lieu of something else, it works. But in the case of Sirius, it doesn't seem to be affecting any other stars in the neighborhood. Works on much larger scales.

Cause without it you're belief system falls apart...

Yes, suppose one might say that I believe in gravity. In lieu of any other current options.

I'm sure many parts of the Universe orbit other parts of the Universe in ways we do not yet understand.

Keep the faith. I'll stick with physics.

We don't yet have the data...

Just because we don't know everything, it doesn't mean we don't know anything. But we have the data which says that Sirius is getting closer to us at a rate of about 5 kms. That's far too fast for an orbit. But if your Faith says we circle Sirius once every 24,000 years, so be it. If you think gravity doesn't work the way we think it does so be it. I won't ask for evidence.

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