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Lewis R. Gordon is the Laura Carnell University Professor of Philosophy and Religion and Director of the Institute for the Study of Race and Social Thought and the Center for Afro-Jewish Studies at Temple University and Ongoing Visiting Professor of Government and Philosophy at the University of the West Indies at Mona, Jamaica.
A more suitable candidate would be a star closer to the plane of the Solar System, or celestial equator. Sirius meets this criteria, at a declination of -17°. It is also the brightest star in the night sky, three times brighter than Alpha Centauri and twice as bright as the next brightest star Canopus. Sirius is also the 5th closest system of stars to our own [6]. More significant is the fact that The Sirius Research Group has been recording the position of Sirius for approximately 20 years now and has not recorded any measurable alteration in its location relative to the precession [7]
I actually did come back to it. It's in Seti's tomb and is the first of two consecutive panels - the raising of the Djed pillar (with Seti himself also crouched at the bottom). You can see the full panel in the middle of this page: theurgetowander.com... The three form a narrative of his Heb Sed festival
That's the circumpolar stars. Twaret is restraining Set, who is attacking the falcon-headed Horus (not Orion). Horus isn't ever associated with Orion. It's a very well-known tale about contending for the kingship of the gods.
It's the Babylonians and Greeks who were really "into" numbers. The Egyptians didn't really have any significant/magical numbers beyond the usual suspects (four and three and later seven
One other thing purplemer said that's true was something about galaxy rotation curves being non-Newtonian.
originally posted by: Sirstudly
Fantastic post purplemer. You've tied together many symbolic elements I have myself observed but not really understood what ties them together.
I do believe it has been 'covered up in plain sight'
What is your next avenue of investigation regarding Sirius?
originally posted by: purplemer
a reply to: Byrd
You simple cannot say that the Dogon are not Kemetic culuture. They have much in common.
I am in the process of reading. A Companion to Afircan American Studies there many connections between the two culutres. I am happy to list them but before I do I will share credential.
Lewis R. Gordon is the Laura Carnell University Professor of Philosophy and Religion and Director of the Institute for the Study of Race and Social Thought and the Center for Afro-Jewish Studies at Temple University and Ongoing Visiting Professor of Government and Philosophy at the University of the West Indies at Mona, Jamaica.
Notable comparison Dogon / Kemetic culture includes
1) Calendar : 360 day, 12 month, 30 days a month 5/10 day week.
2) Higher Powers: Nommo / Neters (rule the universe active agents/principles of the creator.
3) The Creator: Amma (means to hold firmly or keep the same place / Amen which means to make firm or establish permanently
4) The Creation: Before creation Amma had no place to stand / Before creation Ammen Ra had no place to stand
4) The World Egg: Amma bought foward an egg containing the cosmos. / The egg of the world was fashioned by Ptah on the potters wheel
5) The Mind of the Creator: The universe came from the mind of Amma who uttered the creative word / The neter Thoth is mind of Amen-Re where the universe is formed before before it came forth as the word.
6) Spittle and Breath: Amma created life on earth from his spittle and breath / Atum created Tefnut from his spittle and Shu from his breath as the ancestors of living beings.
7) The Original Powers: 8 Nommo or primordial ancestors of man / 8 primeval Neters
8) The Original Twins: Amma created the original male/female as the po (primal seed) Atum created the original male/female twins Shu /Tef Nut
9) The Seat and the Seeds: Within Amma is the seat which is the womb where the primeoridal seeds germinate. Isis is Ast which means seat and womb. She is the source of grain and seeds
10) The Serpent of Time: Nommo Sizu is the serpant who represents immortality. The serpent Sata dies and is reborn everyday.
I have plenty more if you wish
Silver is the feminine and is the bearer of life ! Like the moon or mercury ( not the planet ) in the alchemical marriage ! The sun or sulphur is the life creator but not the nurturing one !
originally posted by: purplemer
a reply to: SulfurMercurySalt
Jack Parsons,Crowley and Kubrick had more knowledge of what is going on in the welkin than most ! Science can only observe while the esoteric occultist knows through magic with empirical science being the analogy of the subjective mind !
Thank you for your contribution in this thread. I agree on some things with you and disagree on others. Thats how we learn I guess.
I agree regarding Kubrick he was the greatest film writter of the centuary and has messages for mankind when we choose to listen.
In respect to Crowley silver star. What do you think he was talking about :-)
The gematria of Aster Argos is 489, also the value of Sothis, the Greek name for the star Sirius. Eshelman states that "Sirius commonly is held to be the physical expression of that "Silver Star" after which the Order is named."
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Great stuff ! Thank you ! Nommo and Sirius are connected all over the globe in antiquity! I love this subject! Thank you once again
originally posted by: purplemer
a reply to: SulfurMercurySalt
I gave this reply to bryd. I thought you might like it too.
Lewis R. Gordon is the Laura Carnell University Professor of Philosophy and Religion and Director of the Institute for the Study of Race and Social Thought and the Center for Afro-Jewish Studies at Temple University and Ongoing Visiting Professor of Government and Philosophy at the University of the West Indies at Mona, Jamaica.
www.wiley.com...
Notable comparison Dogon / Kemetic culture includes
1) Calendar : 360 day, 12 month, 30 days a month 5/10 day week.
2) Higher Powers: Nommo / Neters (rule the universe active agents/principles of the creator.
3) The Creator: Amma (means to hold firmly or keep the same place / Amen which means to make firm or establish permanently
4) The Creation: Before creation Amma had no place to stand / Before creation Ammen Ra had no place to stand
4) The World Egg: Amma bought foward an egg containing the cosmos. / The egg of the world was fashioned by Ptah on the potters wheel
5) The Mind of the Creator: The universe came from the mind of Amma who uttered the creative word / The neter Thoth is mind of Amen-Re where the universe is formed before before it came forth as the word.
6) Spittle and Breath: Amma created life on earth from his spittle and breath / Atum created Tefnut from his spittle and Shu from his breath as the ancestors of living beings.
7) The Original Powers: 8 Nommo or primordial ancestors of man / 8 primeval Neters
8) The Original Twins: Amma created the original male/female as the po (primal seed) Atum created the original male/female twins Shu /Tef Nut
9) The Seat and the Seeds: Within Amma is the seat which is the womb where the primeoridal seeds germinate. Isis is Ast which means seat and womb. She is the source of grain and seeds
10) The Serpent of Time: Nommo Sizu is the serpant who represents immortality. The serpent Sata dies and is reborn everyday.
There is no story about Orion and Artemis. Orion was the Egyptian god of the dead and Artemis was the Greek virgin goddess of the hunt.
The bull represents the sun gate . The missing leg is a symbol of man having to make up for the lame leg by accepting the bull and adding or helping in mans ascension . Hence the chain around the bulls leg ! The bull cant do its job unless man helps ! Soul and Body or Objective or Subjective.
originally posted by: purplemer
a reply to: Byrd
That's the circumpolar stars. Twaret is restraining Set, who is attacking the falcon-headed Horus (not Orion). Horus isn't ever associated with Orion. It's a very well-known tale about contending for the kingship of the gods.
Thank you for your reply.
Note how the bull has its leg missing. This as we will probably both agree on in reprsented by the leg of the bull. It is my belief and others that the leg of the bull represents the The Pleiades . Having nothing to do what so ever with the big dipper as is suggested by AE.
The seven stars around the bull represent The Pleiades. These are the sacred stars and they have nothing what so ever to do with the big dipper in placement.
Now the (leg of the bull -taurus) has in time had The Pleiades move position. This is what this image represents.
Again its found central to religous beliefs.
“These Pleiades are the most occult constellations that exist. . . . They are very occult, because they are connected with all the Rishis, too; they have an interchange of thought with the Rishis.” (H. P. Blavatsky, “The Secret Doctrine Dialogues” p. 319-320)
“Canst thou bind the sweet influences of Pleiades, or loose the bands of Orion?” (Job 38:31)
“As to the mysterious constellation of the Seven Rishis in the great Bear, if Egypt made them sacred to “the oldest genitrix, Typhon” – India has connected all these symbols ages ago with time or Yuga revolutions, and the Saptarishis are intimately connected with our present age – the Dark Kali Yug.”
Not correct. Egyptians had a 365 1/4th day calendar. This is why their year stayed consistent while everyone else's drifted. This is why Julius Caesar used their calendar to reform the Roman calendar.
Marshall Clagett, science historian and a leading scholar of the 20th century, noticed that the five "epagomenal" days often added to complete ancient 360-day calendars were simply absent in these ancient Egyptian calendars.
Egyptian Calendar: Forty years before the inscription of the Rosetta Stone, on another trilingual document, the Canopus Decree attempted to reform the calendar to effectively a 365.25 year via a modern leap year system. Even though this was as late as 238 B.C., still with great pomp the Egyptians would write, of "the year of 360 days and the 5 days added to their end..." Columbia University offers this translation, "if the arrangement of the year remained of 360 days plus the five days later brought into usage..." The scholarly 1859 Dictionary of Greek and Roman Antiquities (see scan below) draws from this Egyptian practice in its discussion of the Roman 360-day year:
"There is in the great History of China a description given of a reformation of the calendar carried out by the Emperor Tchuen-Hio, whose date is placed at 2510-2431 B.C."
Mayan Calendar: The Mayan baktun equals 144,000 days of exactly four hundred 360-day years. Their tun was a year of 360 days.
Aztec Calendar Stone: 12-feet in diameter, the Aztec calendar stone has its Ring B of 18 quincunxes which combines with the 20 uinal day signs for a 360 day year.
India Calendar: Encyclopedia of Indo-Aryan Research, G. Thibaut, states: "All Veda texts speak uniformly and exclusively of a year of 360 days.
Sumerian Calendar: The calendar and the ancient "base 60"
Babylonian Calendar: The Babylonians inherited from Sumeria the relationship between the calendar and the number system with the 12-month, 360-day year giving rise to base 60
Hebrew Calendar and the Bible's Year: John wrote the Book of Revelation in about 95 A.D., a century and a half after the Julian calendar reform of 45 B.C. which adopted a 365-day calendar with modern leap years. However, in verses 11:2-3; 12:6, 12:14; and 13:5, John explicitly indicates a year of 360 days.
Armennian Basic Calendar (HBT, ABC) consists of 12 months 30 days each, so 360 days plus 5 (or 6 once per every four years in fixed HBT) additional days (the New Years celebrations).
originally posted by: Nyiah
originally posted by: purplemer
a reply to: Raggedyman
There is no holy grail, it’s myth, fairytale.
Just because you do not understand what something symbolises does not make it a fairytale. Funny the chalice is right there in front of you but you cannot drink from it.
That's not a chalice, it's my long-long family heirloom bud vase.
Whether or not the outline represents Orion himself, as logged historically, or some screwball otherworldly drinking cup becauseitmustfitomfgeverythingisacoverup is up to the ogling party. And it's also up to them to use their head mush -- depiction of mythical figure, woo-woo drinking cup, of Nyiah's lost heirloom bud vase?
You decide, though I guarantee my bud vase mockery is closer than your theory is.
originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
originally posted by: purplemer
In Masonic lodges, Sirius is known as the “Blazing Star” and a simple look at its prominence in Masonic symbolism reveals its utmost importance.
vigilantcitizen.com...
It actually represents God but can also represent Beauty, Providence and Prudence. There is no mention in Masonic ritual to Sirius.
originally posted by: Grenade
a reply to: purplemer
Very interesting, was planning to build furniture today however ATS provides another rabbit hole to dive down.
Thanks, as someone with a keen interest in Astronomy and the creation stories this is right up my street.
originally posted by: purplemer
a reply to: Byrd
That's the circumpolar stars. Twaret is restraining Set, who is attacking the falcon-headed Horus (not Orion). Horus isn't ever associated with Orion. It's a very well-known tale about contending for the kingship of the gods.
Thank you for your reply.
Note how the bull has its leg missing. This as we will probably both agree on in reprsented by the leg of the bull. It is my belief and others that the leg of the bull represents the The Pleiades . Having nothing to do what so ever with the big dipper as is suggested by AE.
The seven stars around the bull represent The Pleiades. These are the sacred stars and they have nothing what so ever to do with the big dipper in placement.
Now the (leg of the bull -taurus) has in time had The Pleiades move position. This is what this image represents.
“These Pleiades are the most occult constellations that exist. . . . They are very occult, because they are connected with all the Rishis, too; they have an interchange of thought with the Rishis.” (H. P. Blavatsky, “The Secret Doctrine Dialogues” p. 319-320)
But I will reserve final judgement until after I've reread everything, digested all the information and done some additional research etc.
originally posted by: SulfurMercurySalt
The bull represents the sun gate . The missing leg is a symbol of man having to make up for the lame leg by accepting the bull and adding or helping in mans ascension . Hence the chain around the bulls leg ! The bull cant do its job unless man helps ! Soul and Body or Objective or Subjective.