Non-Americans, what's the chatter around Trump in your country?

a reply to: YouSir

Haha, even if it was aimed at me I wouldn't have taken it to heart. I know better.


I was just richarding around.

a reply to: toolgal462

He will treat you as you treat him. If treated with respect, he will treat you with respect.

Unless you are dead like John Dingell, Then he will insult you.

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a reply to: Atsbhct

Some people like him, some think hes a buffoon most are indifferent.

originally posted by: UKTruth
Difficult to really answer. The media here in the UK is so biased that we can only really go off the people we know.
In terms of my circle of people

Crazy social justice activists or wannabe's that like to virtue signal hate him.
Normal and informed people like him or at least like his policies.
Then there are those people who just get fed their views via the TV - they'll dislike him.

In the rest of the UK, outside your circle of people, Trump has always been desperately unpopular, even in the higher reaches of Boris Johnson's Tory party.

Even if they agree with his policies, many think he is a political liability. Johnson steered well clear of him during the recent NATO summit because he didn't want to be associated with him during an election campaign. In fact, Johnson is on record as saying Trump was possessed of "quite stupefying ignorance", was "clearly out of his mind" and "unfit for office". Note those quotation marks - it's a matter of public record.

Maybe Johnson and his government should ignore their briefings and use online echo-chambers instead.

originally posted by: Whodathunkdatcheese

originally posted by: UKTruth
Difficult to really answer. The media here in the UK is so biased that we can only really go off the people we know.
In terms of my circle of people

Crazy social justice activists or wannabe's that like to virtue signal hate him.
Normal and informed people like him or at least like his policies.
Then there are those people who just get fed their views via the TV - they'll dislike him.

In the rest of the UK, outside your circle of people, Trump has always been desperately unpopular, even in the higher reaches of Boris Johnson's Tory party.

Even if they agree with his policies, many think he is a political liability. Johnson steered well clear of him during the recent NATO summit because he didn't want to be associated with him during an election campaign. In fact, Johnson is on record as saying Trump was possessed of "quite stupefying ignorance", was "clearly out of his mind" and "unfit for office". Note those quotation marks - it's a matter of public record.

Maybe Johnson and his government should ignore their briefings and use online echo-chambers instead.

Like I said - if you watch the news and believe it all, that will be your perspective.
A comment from a poltician is not a reflection of anything else other than that politicians view.
Boris also said....

"Boris Johnson has lavished praise on Donald Trump, saying the US president has "many, many good qualities" and lauding his record in office.
The Tory leadership frontrunner said the Republican had got the US economy "motoring" and suggested that he wanted to copy some of Mr Trump's policies.
Speaking at a Conservative leadership hustings in Carlisle, he said the US president was "having results" and added: "We should pay tribute to that".

Which do you want to believe?
Personally, I believe neither comment and undertsand that politicians say things they need to say at any give time.

I prefer to say that it's difficult to really judge the question being asked in the OP, but I also undertsand some people have a deep need for their own views to be echoed so they look for confirmation.

a reply to: Whodathunkdatcheese

"Quite stupefying ignorance". ...what an amazingly British insult.

According to an NPR story I just heard, he’s very popular in Nigeria. They must not follow the U.S. news media or they’d know he’s a fascist, racist wannabe dictator.

originally posted by: IrateCanadian
Here in Canada, I have come to realize months ago that anyone who opposes Trump within my companies organization, or my friends "general" circle/social environment are brainwashed, unintelligent and do not think for themselves.

They all LOVE socialism and even the idea of communism. They fully support all things wrong. They listen to everything CNN, CBC, ABC etc says. They do not do their own research - They just say they do and when you ask them a specific question on the topics, they dance around it with no real answer and a basic "I don't know, but this is what I believe".

I hate living in Canada. This Country is full of morons, commies and these people are soooo deep into this whole social media world that they think they can just "be virtuous" online by supporting whatever the mob supports, however they act like a complete r-tard in real life and lack all common sense and critical thinking.

Most of them don't even know the real facts of the impeachment process. Many actually thought that Trump was going to be removed from office today, yet to their surprise, he was not, as this still needs to go to the senate.

That is how ignorant these people are.

To be honest, I know next to nothing about Canadian politics or government and that’s probably typical of most Americans. I’m often amazed by how much foreigners know about us.

originally posted by: IrateCanadian
a reply to: Atsbhct

I have been seriously thinking of relocating to the USA, mainly in the Texas region, but I'm still waiting to see how this Democrat sh%t plays out. They seem to be ruining every state and attempting the most absurd agendas, like removing/banning assault style weapons.

My other thought was somewhere overseas, but every Country is going complete socialist/Communist or is in a great upheaval from political corruption and/or war.

So I might as well sit here and wait for the Po-Po to come attempt to grab my "Assault style" weapons when Turdeau's incompetent government tries to ban them. Which they are working on - Along with handguns.

I hate to discourage you, but even Texas will probably become a Democratic (blue) state in the near future. Most young Texans are now born, raised and live in urban areas, which have lost touch with the traditional conservative values that helped the state prosper despite a challenging environment. Texas is projected to be only 50 percent white very soon, and nonwhites tend to vote Democratic. Of course, there will always be smaller cities and towns — perhaps the majority of communities in the state — that will remain fiercely conservative. Just stay away from the big cities — with the exception of Fort Worth —if you’re looking for a conservative local government.

originally posted by: Atsbhct

originally posted by: LordAhriman
About 1/4 of my family lives in England. All but one of them think he's a joke, and use him as a punchline to make fun of us gun toting, redneck, 'Americans as he is the embodiment of that image. They're not wrong.

I think that's exactly it, isn't it. The world has a certain image of Americans, which we know isn't actually true, but then they elected someone who represents some of those stereotypes so well. Then the jokes created themselves.

Do you think the world had a better opinion of Americans in general when Obama was prez? Personally, I don’t think we’re any different now than when Obama was king, but the left and right are much more open about their mutual antipathy.

a reply to: Scapegrace

No, I don't think so. But I would say most people I know loved Obama.

a reply to: Petra137

Your country sounds smarter. We keep losing freedom of speech in Canada to the Alt Left and you can't say anything about it without being labled Alt Right.

Fug it.

originally posted by: rickymouse
a reply to: Atsbhct

Quit saying realistic things about Trump's personality. But remember, Trump did host that TV show where he had half of the country mad at his character. I actually believe he is doing a fair job, if he would only learn to shut his Yapper on Twitter he could have gone down in history as a good president.

We have to consider this moment in history we are wading thru and each of us has a seat but not the whole picture.

History has a way or remember the huge winners like DJT is. Just with our unparalleled status for growth went off the charts every quarter in favor of the Western Economic system alone.

I think that good pres thing is about actions not words. Words are being removed from our vernacular. It is best we keep them and tell the left words will never harm them but kooks with guns in no gun zones will. They will because people can make their own weapons and unarmed people make easy targets for kooks.

originally posted by: oloufo

I don't know anyone who hates Trump. Only his followers talk about hate. Most people don't like him because he lies, because he is ignorant, because he incites his followers, because he has no manners, because he is not a role model, not a leader, just an egomaniac. In this time the world needs empathic and responsible leaders.

In other words, you just want to impose what leader the U.S. and other countries should have... As for lies? everything you have written about President Trump in this thread is a LIE... So you shouldn't be claiming anyone else is lying when you are lying through your teeth and don't care for facts, just like the majority of the "never Trump crowd".

Without speaking for anyone, all I can say is I know someone very well who negotiates trade for their country and has spent alot of time with some of the richest and most powerful people on the Asian continent, none of them are laughing or think he's a joke - most of the people saying he is think they have something to gain by speaking out. Ive also met a considerable number of people going back to 2013 had lots of firsthand trash to talk about her and are glad she's gone, even though they may have benefitted greatly at the time.

First, a little background

Politics in my home country is vastly different from politics in America.

Almost all of our political parties are what America would consider to be socialists. We just have different flavors. Some want to achieve socialism one way, and some want to achieve it a different way. They are also social conservatives. At least also when compared to American politicians.

We don't really have an equivalent to the Republican party. Our closest approximation makes the Democrats look like the Tea Party by comparison.

By and large this is what people want. We like this system and when we have elections the hot button issues usually sound more like a Democrat primary than the American presidential campaign.

So, to us a politician like Trump is almost unthinkable. Even after all of these years with him as the president it's difficult for us to think of him as really being the president. He seems more like a character from a political satire or from an episode of South Park or the Simpsons. He's just that different form what we are used to at home.

As an example. When Trump was campaigning he made fun of a disabled reporter. In my country this would made him political poison. He would never have held any elected office ever again in his entire life. He'd never be allowed on the board of a big company, even his own companies would have demanded that he be dropped.

It would have been the same with his affairs, or the hush money, or the misuse of charity funds.

Any one of these would have ruined him.

It's not that we don't understand the basic issues that motivate Republican voters. Reducing immigration, reducing regulation, stimulating the economy, reducing the tax burden on the middle classes. We have the same issues here. Though out politicians approach these from a socialist perspective because that's what people want.

We have politicians here want to build walls (both metaphoric and physical) to keep illegal immigrants out. We have our own swamps that needs draining. We also have our own problems with the trade imbalance with China.

We even have problems with political correctness, and some of our politicians capitalize on it just like Trump is doing.

But no politician would act the way that Trump does. He lies to people's faces. Makes claims that are blatantly false or he exaggerates things so often that even when he is telling the truth it sounds like a lie. And he calls his opponents names like he was naughty school boy making fun of a child with glasses or a lisp.

We really don't understand why Republicans don't simply impeach Trump themselves so that they can have Mike Pence as President. We'd vote for Pence here. But Trump would struggle to be the President of the Trump fan club.

At the end of the day, we just think differently, and find it difficult to understand why Americans didn't vote for another Republican at the primaries.

originally posted by: Atsbhct
What's the Trump chatter in your country?

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If people gather together, meet friends and stuff like that, we will not speak about Trump.

Media is a different ball game. Real news broadcasts are fairly unbiased, but we have these shows where news are discussed about and then make fun or "fun" about them. Those are really leftist in tone. And so am i. They go to ad hominem argumentation against Trump and i refuse to tolerate that. It looks like they really don't understand the fact, that while Trump is not perfect, he was (2016) a massively better choice than Hillary.

Ps. Please remember, a leftist is a different thing here than in USA. I would rather brush my teeth with plutonium toothpaste than vote for AOC kind of person.

originally posted by: Finspiracy

originally posted by: Atsbhct
What's the Trump chatter in your country?

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If people gather together, meet friends and stuff like that, we will not speak about Trump.

Media is a different ball game. Real news broadcasts are fairly unbiased, but we have these shows where news are discussed about and then make fun or "fun" about them. Those are really leftist in tone. And so am i. They go to ad hominem argumentation against Trump and i refuse to tolerate that. It looks like they really don't understand the fact, that while Trump is not perfect, he was (2016) a massively better choice than Hillary.

Ps. Please remember, a leftist is a different thing here than in USA. I would rather brush my teeth with plutonium toothpaste than vote for AOC kind of person.

We think of leftist here as Totalitarian more gov types as opposed to less gov. Republicans tend to be conservatives but the Cabal has their fakers working to hurt us too. True Conservatives in America are for less gov. Groups like the Tea Party and Libertarians who have no true affiliation are largely conservative less gov types.

Summarizing, here I think that to the USA, the left means Hitler/Fascism/Communist people. The Right means near anarchy with little restraints in place of humanity so the left wants to take away our rights. Conservatives do preserve the environment too. Unlike the leftist who actually pretend to care while raking in billions of dollars skimming the funds meant for the worlds land trusts and wildlife.

a reply to: AaarghZombies

Care to tell us what country you are claiming is socialist?...

It's not the first time that Europeans don't even know what system their own country is... But don't fret about it. Plenty of democrats and socialists have similar beliefs, including the false claim that "the police, firefighters, schools, and even roads "are all socialist..." Which is the most idiotic argument ever envisioned by socialists/communists/democrats...