A Black Superman now really?, Black Batman it Shows an Agenda, Lazy Writing.

originally posted by: kyosuke

originally posted by: DictionaryOfExcuses
a reply to: Scapegrace

Hispanics are categorized as white, no?

It depends. If the hispanic person in question serves the liberal narrative (example. AOC) then they are considered a POC. If the hispanic person in question doesn't tow the line, they are written off as white. We are seeing white liberals call black people white supremacist, because the don't tow the line. That's how extreme the mental gymnastics get with leftists.

On the subject of comics, there are 2 black Superman. Too not use one of those existing characters and race swap the original is racist in two ways. One, is the obvious, it's racist against white people. Why is now not ok to have white characters? Two, race swapping is racist against black people, because you are ignoring existing black characters. Basically, saying, those characters are not good enough to stand on their own, which is B.S.

For instance, it would stupid to race swap Hal Jordan from white to black, because John Stewart ( a black green lantern) already exists.

John Stewart, one of the characters known as Green Lantern, is a fictional superhero appearing in American comic books published by DC Comics and was the first African-American superhero to appear in DC Comics.[1] The character was created by Dennis O'Neil and Neal Adams, and first appeared in Green Lantern #87 (December 1971/January 1972). Stewart's original design was based on actor Sidney Poitier.

I’ve seen white leftists call other white people “whitey.” I was accused of “acting white” by a white woman. It’s really strange; all this self hatred by the Left.

a reply to: Scapegrace

I don't remember for the life of me where I recently read that Hispanics are counted among "whites" (for "census" purposes). You know, it's all a bit silly to me.

I don't have super strong opinions on this, but for what it's worth I have noticed that blacks seem to be disproportionately represented in television advertisements, which I mostly see in passing. What's up with that? Seems just as racist as excluding them altogether. But hey, I'm not in marketing. What do i know?

As far as hispanic actors, you could be right. I don't intend to come off in a holier-than-thou vibe, but I don't watch TV and I hardly pay attention to hollywood pictures.

Blacks have a much more "reactive" backstory in American culture compared to Hispanics/Latinos. Maybe that has something to do with it. But by that token, if "reactive" is what they're going for, why not write native Americans into all these commercials and super hero roles?

a reply to: ChefFox

I'm way more offended that the new Batman is going to be that twig from Twilight. But i can see how a black superman would offend racists....

originally posted by: DictionaryOfExcuses
I don't remember for the life of me where I recently read that Hispanics are counted among "whites" (for "census" purposes). You know, it's all a bit silly to me.

Many Hispanics are native to Western Europe; Spain/Portugal. Up until just before the middle of the 20th century Mediterranean people's like Hispanics, Italians and Greeks were not considered white. This changed when it became convenient to count people of those ancestries as white.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Convenient, i.e., politically expedient? To achieve what ends?

Good to see so many people taking an interest in comics.

Comic book characters have been reinterpreted / reinvented / rebooted pretty much consistently since the 90s.

Heck, you can go back further than with some of the DC characters.

Then there's Miles Morales, the Latino Spiderman. The Batman Elseworlds series. Nick Fury. Captain America going from putting his life on the line speaking truth to power in Civil War to pussywhipped old man at the end of Endgame.

It happens all the time.

So why the fuss now?

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh. There's talk about reinventing some more characters as black men.

Let the market decide.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
Many Hispanics are native to Western Europe; Spain/Portugal. Up until just before the middle of the 20th century Mediterranean people's like Hispanics, Italians and Greeks were not considered white. This changed when it became convenient to count people of those ancestries as white.

As someone with a holiday home in southern Spain, I can assure you most Spaniards (and Portuguese) are as white as anyone else in Europe, even if they tan better.

Perhaps what you mean is that northern European WASP types in the US considered them inferior until quite recently, as they did the Irish and Jews.

originally posted by: Whodathunkdatcheese
Perhaps what you mean is that northern European WASP types in the US considered them inferior until quite recently, as they did the Irish and Jews.

That's what I meant. Although us Med types do have much nicer skin complexion than those pasty WASP types. Must be something about getting sun and a good diet.

originally posted by: DictionaryOfExcuses
a reply to: Scapegrace

I don't remember for the life of me where I recently read that Hispanics are counted among "whites" (for "census" purposes). You know, it's all a bit silly to me.

I don't have super strong opinions on this, but for what it's worth I have noticed that blacks seem to be disproportionately represented in television advertisements, which I mostly see in passing. What's up with that? Seems just as racist as excluding them altogether. But hey, I'm not in marketing. What do i know?

As far as hispanic actors, you could be right. I don't intend to come off in a holier-than-thou vibe, but I don't watch TV and I hardly pay attention to hollywood pictures.

Blacks have a much more "reactive" backstory in American culture compared to Hispanics/Latinos. Maybe that has something to do with it. But by that token, if "reactive" is what they're going for, why not write native Americans into all these commercials and super hero roles?

Yeah, the number of blacks in commercials and ads in general seems disproportionate, but I could certainly be wrong (a study would be interesting). Again, I’m pretty sure Hispanics are in far less commercials and ads than blacks, even though there are more of them. According to Wikipedia, Hispanic households have a full 50 percent more income than black households on average, so you’d think advertisers and Hollywood would feature more Hispanics. I don’t get it. Is it because liberal media producers suffer from white guilt? Are Hispanics too uncool compared to blacks?

originally posted by: Joecanada11
a reply to: ChefFox

I'm way more offended that the new Batman is going to be that twig from Twilight. But i can see how a black superman would offend racists....

Why not create a new black superhero even more powerful than Superman? Why mess with an 80-yea-old tradition? Anyway, Superman is the most boring of all superheroes. I doubt I’ll ever watch another Superman flick, regardless of the actor’s race or ethnicity.

originally posted by: Scapegrace
Why not create a new black superhero even more powerful than Superman?

LOL. I'm sure the marys complaining about black Superman will be thrilled when an even more powerful made up character than their made up boy, Superman, rolls around and he's black. No one will make a peep, right? It will be even better when they make Lex Luthor a Klansman.

batman and superman have been white since the 30's. and your mad there may be a different version 60 years later ? lol

a reply to: ChefFox

Who cares? Its based on a comic, about an alien, who just happens to look like us. If you get to hung up on melanin levels, then don't watch it.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: Scapegrace
Why not create a new black superhero even more powerful than Superman?

LOL. I'm sure the marys complaining about black Superman will be thrilled when an even more powerful made up character than their made up boy, Superman, rolls around and he's black. No one will make a peep, right? It will be even better when they make Lex Luthor a Klansman.

I could not possibly care less.

a reply to: Scapegrace

Uh-huh.