Stepmom fighting sex offender status for being topless in her own home

originally posted by: Nyiah
She went full retard and didn't think -- they're not HER kids and thus it's not her right to be nude -- partially or otherwise -- around them. Ergo, their actual mother has reason to be skeeved TF out about it (I sure as # would be)

I think a slap on the wrist at best is warranted here at most, nobody needs to see a step-parent half-clothed. That's the kind of thing bad B-movies and porno categories are made of.

Well well... once again we agree.
She definitely wasn’t being responsible.

Was it a question of law or morality ?
I vote the latter ?
Why take off ones shirt if it is dusty ?
Hell , I would have put on more clothes.
What kind of dusty was it ?
Why would they have preferred dust on the skin instead of on the clothing ?

I vote with the real mom .

originally posted by: Sheye

You've obviously never worked.

originally posted by: Gothmog
Was it a question of law or morality ?
I vote the latter ?
Why take off ones shirt if it is dusty ?
Hell , I would have put on more clothes.
What kind of dusty was it ?
Why would they have preferred dust on the skin instead of on the clothing ?

I vote with the real mom .

Why give a sh1t about tits? They're just tits.

originally posted by: mamabethI think this woman showed poor judgement in not covering
up when the children walked in.I don't think it's right to try
and have her registered as a sex offender.

i completely agree.

originally posted by: RoScoLaz5

originally posted by: mamabethI think this woman showed poor judgement in not covering
up when the children walked in.I don't think it's right to try
and have her registered as a sex offender.

i completely agree.

Mama Beth is a boomer parody account. Just so you know.

a reply to: JAGStorm

The article says the children are aged 9-13 but doesn't specify if they are boys or girls. While I agree with the stepmother's attitude about going topless if some of the children are boys I can also see where the biological mother might have a problem with it. And the thing is that the stepmother is not biologically related to the children so she doesn't get to decide. You might say the biological father was okay with it but with divorced parents whoever has majority custody of the kids usually gets to decide the important stuff- and that is usually the mama.

originally posted by: chiefsmom
There are 6 states that we can go topless in, apparently.
Free the nipple. LOL

Plus Ontario! All that and reefer!

originally posted by: LordAhriman

originally posted by: Sheye

You've obviously never worked.

?? Why would you say something like that. I’ve worked the majority of my life up to having serious back issues.
How does this relate ? Because I mentioned dust sticking to naked sweaty bodies ? please explain.. 😕

originally posted by: JAGStorm

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
a reply to: JAGStorm

Utah is one of those backwards states that makes it illegal for women to go topless.

Ok to have a child bride, and 16 wives and 96 children, but by God you better have those ta ta's covered up!

Hahahaha exactly. Messed up state enforcing a messed up law. Mind you, as a European i probably have a different attitude to nudity than most of you on here. For me, i don't have a problem with it at all, provided it is in private (ie home / garden, etc) or approved public areas (beaches, etc).

I do have a problem with it though when it becomes sexual in nature - that crosses the line from something harmless to something far more sinister. So, for me, even if my male neighbour wants to mow his lawn starkers then fair enough. If he though wants to mow his lawn whilst playing with his tackle then i would be phoning the Police...

The same applies here for me. She is simply topless in her house. If she was seductively rubbing her nipples whilst staring at the step kids then real mum may have a point. As it is though, she simply comes across as nasty and vindictive - and probably still in love with her ex......

originally posted by: LordAhriman

originally posted by: Nyiah

They're. just. boobs. Fat filled bags of flesh, used to feed infants. That's it. Also, her house.

Be that as it may, it still boils down to a lack of respect for the real mother and the kids, and lack of self-respect for herself. How hard is it to holler back into the house "Stay out of here for now, I'm taking my shirt off until further notice"? I don't even change shirts with a bra ON without kicking my kids out first and shutting the door. A sense of decency is not a bad thing to have.

a reply to: Nyiah

Only if you think bare breasts are a bad thing.
How do you feel about men exposing their bare breasts to children?
Why do you feel different between the two?

originally posted by: Krakatoa
a reply to: Nyiah

Only if you think bare breasts are a bad thing.
How do you feel about men exposing their bare breasts to children?
Why do you feel different between the two?

Female breasts are sexual in allure. Male chests generally are not. I look at my boobs AND other women's boobs, and recognize that feeding the kids is an after-the-hook use, not beforehand. Beforehand, they're used to attract a mate. That is a psychological constant in sexual attraction

Moobs/pecs are not viewed in the same manner, nor seen with a sexual allure.

How is this hard for people to grasp? they may just be fat sacks hanging off the upper torso, but they're used for mate snagging. THEN feeding kids. Maybe, If the couple ever has them.

originally posted by: Nyiah
Female breasts are sexual in allure. Male chests generally are not.

That's not what women have told me. And I know from personal experience that if I wear something that makes me look like Superman busting chains off my chest, women definitely take notice. Now, they're probably not going to act on it, and men are definitely judged by a different set of standards when it comes to mate selection.

When it comes to social sexuality, men and women are a lot more alike than they are different.

originally posted by: Blue Shift

originally posted by: Nyiah
Female breasts are sexual in allure. Male chests generally are not.

That's not what women have told me. And I know from personal experience that if I wear something that makes me look like Superman busting chains off my chest, women definitely take notice. Now, they're probably not going to act on it, and men are definitely judged by a different set of standards when it comes to mate selection.

When it comes to social sexuality, men and women are a lot more alike than they are different.

I was going to respond the same way. A strong and muscular male chest is most definitely sexually attractive to many women. That is a red herring IMO.

With regards to human history, arnt female breasts only recently sexualized?

And mainly in western cultures?

Western Prudes. Lol.
(Yes im a westerner)

originally posted by: Nyiah

originally posted by: LordAhriman

originally posted by: Nyiah

They're. just. boobs. Fat filled bags of flesh, used to feed infants. That's it. Also, her house.

Be that as it may, it still boils down to a lack of respect for the real mother and the kids, and lack of self-respect for herself.

What if she was breast-feeding? Still a lack of respect?

originally posted by: LordAhriman

originally posted by: Gothmog
Was it a question of law or morality ?
I vote the latter ?
Why take off ones shirt if it is dusty ?
Hell , I would have put on more clothes.
What kind of dusty was it ?
Why would they have preferred dust on the skin instead of on the clothing ?

I vote with the real mom .

Why give a sh1t about tits? They're just tits.

Did I mention anything as such ?
Denying ignorance,
Why
Some folks need to know , and some folks have moral character.

For crying out loud... sex offender? Really?

First of all, this obsession Americans have with clothing is absurd in itself. There is nothing wrong with the human body. Truth be known, I walk around the house nude quite a bit. No sense dirtying up clothes more than I have to.

Now, outside, I will wear something a bit more decent, just in case someone shows up. That's less a matter of not wanting others to see me than it is not wanting others to bleach their eyes out over seeing me. When my kids were younger, yeah, pants all the time. That's just decency; my wife has no problem with me being nude, but I don't want to force that onto my kids.

Had I been the husband, I would have probably told her to put something on while the kids were around; I can understand the ex being upset; I cannot understand sex offender status for what she reportedly did. The only way I can see that is if she was maybe having some adult fun instead of just working in a dusty area. There have been some good points raised about that. If that was the case, yeah, she needs to cover up quickly and try to not give the kids an unexpected lesson in human sexuality.

Not sure what she would be doing with only the shirt off in that line of thinking...

Still not really a sex offender, though. Slap her wrist to let her know that was over the top and go on with life.

I guess it's the Puritan heritage that makes us this way, although I don't understand why. The Bible doesn't shy away from nudity... people are encouraged to cover themselves in public, but that's about it. If God made man, as all the Abrahamic religions (claim to) believe, then why be so ashamed of God's creation? If we were told to "go forth and multiply," why be ashamed of multiplying? How can that make sense to any logical person? Decency in public is a good thing, but this wasn't in public.

I really think this was a vindictive ex who used this as an excuse to attack that evil woman who took her man. Worse, our own (in)justice system assisted her in extracting revenge for a perceived moral wrong! Let's face it: people are mean and will try to extract revenge. That's just a fact of life. The real danger is when society helps them by abusing these laws.

If a boy and girl have been dating for years and one of them suddenly turns 18 before the other does, that does NOT make them a sex offender! If a guy picks up a girl he truly believes is of age in a bar drinking, and she later turns out to be a few months shy, the guy is NOT a sex offender! If someone gets caught taking a leak behind a bush, they are NOT a sex offender! If someone gets interrupted in a compromising position, they are NOT a sex offender!

A sex offender is someone who preys on others sexually. Unwanted touching of a sexual nature, rape, pedophilia, date rape... those are sex offenses. Being naked is not.

One of the few times Europe got it right... I understand they are much less uptight over there.

TheRedneck

Meanwhile... how many times have we read that women should dress more conservative out in public to avoid rape. Some seem to have implied provocative dress is akin to sexual abuse.
To actually judge this instance I would have to know the ages of the kids because if they were teenage boys with raging hormones, then according to some on these boards, the stepmom was inviting rape or sexually abusing those kids.