Colonel Vindman Tells Ukraine to Ignore Requests From His Boss President Trump.

a reply to: Grambler

Ooh, pretty colors, still butchered to your liking.

You’re lying. Vindman DID NOT SAY that he counseled anyone on July 31 to ignore the President. If he did you would post it.

You didn’t and he didn’t.

Have fun G. It’s no fun if you’re going to be deceitful.

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: Grambler

Common thread with all these witnesses. They "THOUGHT" the U.S. President was not implementing foreign policy properly.

This impeachment thing will backfire on Democrats, like the Mueller witch-hunt did. Sucking all the air out of the room for nothing.

And yet, you can’t quote anyone saying that ... VIndman’s comments were about the lead-up to the Trump-Velensky call, and Vindman LISTENED to the call.

Do you have any quotes from any witnesses that back up your claims? If not, you’re spouting opinion.

Yes Vindmans own words.

Do you even read anything you are arguing about?

Its becoming very sad.

We already went over this, Vindman admitted he wasnt a legal expert, and admitted thattrump did not make a demand, he was just interpreting it as such. And he admitted other people could interpret it differently, based on their preconceived notions.

Please read the transcript before you argue with people.

a reply to: Gryphon66

Allz ya gotta do is read every transcript that's been published. Even the "doctored" parts 😃

Your old habits didn't die, so it's bye-bye 😎 🖐️

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: Grambler

LOL you think I read your links? No and I dont eat excess sugar or fat either.

Is that another opinion piece?

Ye i get it. As you said in your post above, who cares if ukraine interfered in the election.

And now you admit you dont read the links provided.

So your a troll, who cheers for corruption and is unwilling to read any facts, even from left leaning sites like poliotico, that counter their narrative.

Thank you again for outing yourself.

a reply to: carewemust

What is it called when the military officer undermines his commander-in-chief?

In this case? Not true.

a reply to: carewemust

The only reason we are having this conversation is because people ignored trumps orders..

Trump told his cabinet to commit like 8 different crimes that the cabinet member ignored , likely because they did not want to go to jail, I would say with him, but far more likely they become trumps patsy.

This Friday will be a picnic. Get your baskets stuffed with goodies. 😎

a reply to: Gryphon66

So you didnt read the source, you lied claiming it didnt say what leschenko did, and now you are saying foreign interfence into elections is fine so long as it isnt effective?

And the posts I put up about vindman show him aditting he felt trump asking ukraine to investigate Biden was wrong because it interfered with domestic politics, and he counseled his Ukrainian couterpart to not get involved with US domestic politics

You can deny it all you want

a reply to: carewemust

If Schiff is falsifying official documents that is almost certainly a felony.

So any day now we should see him be indicted then??

Huh?


Lol...... Schiff will not be indicted, investigated or anything else.

a reply to: Gryphon66

When the law is on your side pound the law.
When the facts are on your side pound the facts.
When neither is on your side pound the table.
They are poundiong the table into sawdust.

originally posted by: StevenCrowley06
a reply to: carewemust

The only reason we are having this conversation is because people ignored trumps orders..

Trump told his cabinet to commit like 8 different crimes that the cabinet member ignored , likely because they did not want to go to jail, I would say with him, but far more likely they become trumps patsy.

Can you all at least get your story straight?

gryphon is saying the cabinet didnt ignore his orders. You are saying they did but its a good thing.

Your cheering for unelected officals to disobey the president because you feel he asked them to committ crimes (he did not) is depressing, but predictable for the "by any means neccessary" crowd.

is this another #metoo thing?

what did I miss?

a reply to: Grambler

You dont see that as he was trying to protect trump?

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: Gryphon66

When the law is on your side pound the law.
When the facts are on your side pound the facts.
When neither is on your side pound the table.
They are poundiong the table into sawdust.

And when the fact arent on your side, refuse to look at any evidence that proves you wrong and be a hypocrite that now says the very thing you shouted about for three years (foriegn interfernce into elections) doesnt matter.

a reply to: Grambler

An opinion piece has nothing but opinions. You cant insure any source. You cannot check any source.
It is not a source for anythig but what one person thinks. Its not news, its not journalism.
Its anecdotal rhetoric.

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: Grambler

You dont see that as he was trying to protect trump?

And here we go again!

So you admit he was disobeying trump, but say it was a good thing!

Hahahahahaha!

Wow, even trump haters cant agree on what Vindmans testimony said and why it is bad for trump.

You guys really need to coordinate with your story before you contradict each other with your trump hatred.

Um, no, asking the Ukrainians to not meet trumps request and investigate Biden and ukrainain election interfence was not protecting trump.

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: xuenchen

ALSO:

No wonder Adam Schiff wouldn't let Republicans have personal copies of any Witness transcripts.

He DOCTORED THEM, according to President Trump.

Source: twitter.com...

That sounds like an admission of guilt, on Trump's part.

He can't argue against the substance of the sworn testimony in the transcripts, so he claims that someone aftered their words to make him look guilty of wrong doing.

a reply to: Grambler

One thing is SUPER FAIR...

That is the conservative tendency to pretend “I know you are but what am I” is a legitimate rebuttal. lmao

I mean what issue has trump not played that card and his base buy it completely?!?!

Russian collusion- I didn’t collide with the Russians!! Hillary did!

Ukrainian collusion- I didn’t collide with ukrain!! Biden did!!

Accused of sexual assault- I didn’t sexually assault anyone! Bill Clinton did..


Trump is a racist- I’m not a racist.. Democrats are the racists!!



Now I am not saying that trump is necessarily guilty of any of it, that is irrelevant to my point, but that is literally a kindergartner’s deflection, and the fact his supporters buy it completely. Is the really funny part.

a reply to: Sookiechacha

Oh that makes it HILARIOUS!!!


Trump was not lying about one thing...

His supporters will literally believe ANYTHING he tells them..

originally posted by: Grambler
a reply to: Gryphon66

So you didnt read the source, you lied claiming it didnt say what leschenko did, and now you are saying foreign interfence into elections is fine so long as it isnt effective?

And the posts I put up about vindman show him aditting he felt trump asking ukraine to investigate Biden was wrong because it interfered with domestic politics, and he counseled his Ukrainian couterpart to not get involved with US domestic politics

You can deny it all you want

“Liar liar pants on fire” is all you’ve got?

You tried to merge two sources together and got caught at it. Are you not happy that the Ukrainians helped bring Manafort to justice? Or is the “law and order” thing you love so much only against your political enemies.

Trump himself stated as I demonstrated that the loss of Manafort was unimportant to his campaign.

It must be painful when your hero’s own words drown out your deceptive argument, eh?

Vindman is a Purple Heart recipient and you’re an ATS right-wing opinion writer.

I know who I believe.