The Drake Equation Fallacy

originally posted by: carsforkids
a reply to: Jay-morris

You don't get to demand anything pal.

You are the one making the claim. Why can't you back it up? Oh, that's right, because you can't!

U

originally posted by: turbonium1
This theory assumes all of those stars are really there, but nobody else has ever seen them, except they claim to have seen them, which makes it worthless.

We could also claim anything, so what?


A theory assumes all the stars are real, without any shred proof of it, then expands how it may be, afterwards...


Not good.

According to you:
Earth is flat.
There is a glass dome thing above it.
Satellites are fake.
The sun is fake.
Nukes are fake.
Now stars are fake.
Not good.

a reply to: Jay-morris

Once more see if you can keep this straight in your mind okay?

I am done discussing this topic with you. You need to seek some help with
your fixation.

originally posted by: carsforkids
a reply to: Jay-morris

Once more see if you can keep this straight in your mind okay?

I am done discussing this topic with you. You need to seek some help with
your fixation.

Come on! It's not a hard question! You people are like the Borg! You act the same! You have the same excuses! One thing you have in common is no evidence!

Well done!

originally posted by: carsforkids
a reply to: Jay-morris

Once more see if you can keep this straight in your mind okay?

I am done discussing this topic with you. You need to seek some help with
your fixation.

Lolol you cannot answer my questions! Just admit it! You are clueless!

U

originally posted by: turbonium1
We haven't seen galaxies, or anything else in 'space'. They claim to see those things in 'space', that's not proof of any sort.

Everyone of us sees the same stars above us, as everyone saw thousands of years ago. That is a fact, not someone saying they saw a galaxy out there, which nobody else has ever seen

Oh....right, we can't look for ourselves, it's not allowed!

You can see the Milky Way (ie a galaxy) with your naked eyes, for goodness sakes.
Do you have an answer for that?
Over to you.

originally posted by: oldcarpy
U

originally posted by: turbonium1
We haven't seen galaxies, or anything else in 'space'. They claim to see those things in 'space', that's not proof of any sort.

Everyone of us sees the same stars above us, as everyone saw thousands of years ago. That is a fact, not someone saying they saw a galaxy out there, which nobody else has ever seen

Oh....right, we can't look for ourselves, it's not allowed!

You can see the Milky Way (ie a galaxy) with your naked eyes, for goodness sakes.
Do you have an answer for that?
Over to you.

It's an illusion LOL

a reply to: Jay-morris

Oh yes i forgot.
Painted on the glass dome.
How silly of me!

originally posted by: oldcarpy
U

originally posted by: turbonium1
We haven't seen galaxies, or anything else in 'space'. They claim to see those things in 'space', that's not proof of any sort.

Everyone of us sees the same stars above us, as everyone saw thousands of years ago. That is a fact, not someone saying they saw a galaxy out there, which nobody else has ever seen

Oh....right, we can't look for ourselves, it's not allowed!

You can see the Milky Way (ie a galaxy) with your naked eyes, for goodness sakes.
Do you have an answer for that?
Over to you.

For once we actually agree. One of the most amazing sights anyone could ever see is looking back at the Milky Way in dark skies.

You can actually see Andromeda with the naked eye as well and even it's shape with a set of binos.

I don't actually believe the flat earthers are being serious. I mean i don't trust a word NASA say, i don't believe we went to the moon, you could even argue that some of the ISS stuff is clearly faked, but it's a big leap from that to Flat Earth.

a reply to: Grenade

A big leap indeed.
Why do you not trust NASA?
Or in that case the ESA, Japan, China, India etc?
Do you think the ISS is fake?

a reply to: oldcarpy

I think there's plenty of evidence to suggest the moon landing was faked. There's plenty of threads on here if you are interested in researching as i know you don't particularly enjoy or give my explanations credence. Particularly the video showing apollo 11 faking the Earth from low Earth orbit when they were supposed to be half way to the moon. Also the loss of the telemetry data and various video inconsistencies.

I don't trust any space agency the way i don't trust any military or government to tell the truth. Secrecy, spin and lies are part of their game for sure.

Some of the ISS stuff is clearly in a studio or one of those zero g planes. There's definitely something up there in that orbit that is the shape of the ISS, whether it's manned like they say is anyone's guess. 10 minutes on here will get you all the dubious ISS footage you need to question some of what you see.

However, i know if it's not on the BBC you tend to exclude it as crazy so i hold little hope.

originally posted by: Barcs
If intelligence can only come from intelligence, then where did God's intelligence come from?

God is/was/will always exist, and was never was created. Something cannot come from nothing, because Something always existed, and that was God.

WHAT? Death is fully understood.

If it was fully understood we could overcome it.

LOL @ quote mines and appeals to authority. You realize that most scientists DO NOT believe in an intelligent designer, right?

Do you base all your opinions on mass appeal rather than logical appeal?

a reply to: Grenade

The Bart Sibrel stuff has been debunked to death on here as has the allegeded loss of telemetry data too. I have seen all the threads on this thanks.
BBC? Sorry, what?
Yes there are Youtube vids claiming the ISS is fake but if thats where you get your reality from i hold little hope for you too !

originally posted by: oldcarpy

Yes there are Youtube vids claiming the ISS is fake but if thats where you get your reality from i hold little hope for you too !

The ISS is only 1/16th of the way to outer space. NASA currently admits they cant pass low earth orbit or the Van Allen belts



Outer space is not what we have been told. NASA is just another bureaucratic agency.

a reply to: cooperton

No NASA has not said that. Please cite your source.

a reply to: cooperton

God is/was/will always exist, and was never was created. Something cannot come from nothing, because Something always existed, and that was God.

And how do you know that? Did he tell you?

originally posted by: cooperton

originally posted by: oldcarpy

Yes there are Youtube vids claiming the ISS is fake but if thats where you get your reality from i hold little hope for you too !

The ISS is only 1/16th of the way to outer space. NASA currently admits they cant pass low earth orbit or the Van Allen belts

Outer space is not what we have been told. NASA is just another bureaucratic agency.

lolololololol

originally posted by: oldcarpy
a reply to: cooperton

No NASA has not said that. Please cite your source.

These NASA interviews, and also Barack Obama:

originally posted by: Jay-morris


And how do you know that? Did he tell you?

Newton's Law says something cannot come from nothing. Therefore by definition God is the Something that always existed. The Source of all.

a reply to: cooperton

If you say so.

a reply to: cooperton

Newton's Law says something cannot come from nothing.

Sorry, but quantum mechanics opens up another host of theories regarding the universe. We do not have the answers to everything, and I doubt we ever will, but to turn around and say it's God, is a stretch, esp when it comes from a book that is obviously man made, and not the words of a God!

Therefore by definition God is the Something that always existed. The Source of all.

Sorry, but everything has a begining. It's a cop out to say God has always been there! But again, where is the evidence for a God? Absolutly nothing!