About time as Pelosi will hold a vote this week on impeachment

With the partisan nature of the house dems handling so far why would the majority in the senate even entertain something pushed forward?
fair is fair
No procedure left unused right?

a reply to: shooterbrody

Chief Justice Roberts will be presiding. I seriously doubt he would go along with that.

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: shooterbrody

Chief Justice Roberts will be presiding. I seriously doubt he would go along with that.

lol
all that bluster about congress having peach mint powers and now you cling to roberts to save the debacle?
ahahahahahaha
that is rich
even from you

like roberts can stop co caine mitch

lol

hows that nuclear option going now harry reid????

a reply to: shooterbrody

Why do I bother?

Rock on.

a reply to: Gryphon66
Not really sure
seem to be wrong at just about every turn

time for another "break"?

or was it someone else espousing the peach mint powers of congress?

originally posted by: 727Sky
Evidently Pelosi thinks she has the votes or both her and Adam are getting so much blow back that it is time to hold a vote for the impeachment of POTUS.

Title is wrong... but this is great news!

It is not a vote for impeachment, it is what many have been calling for the whole time - a vote to initiate a legitimate impeachment inquiry.

More than likely they are doing this in response to Graham's Resolution condemning their fake inquiry as illegitimate (because it is), and realize if they want the Senate to do its part, they have to do this.

Hopefully the very first thing the Rs do is recall all of the witnesses that have already testified, and have them do it all over agin, this time in public, where they will be humiliated beyond all recognition.

originally posted by: MiddleInsite
This is simply the next step.

No, this is to address the fact that the current so-called inquiry is a sham, and they have finally realized it.

According to the CRS (evidence provided by Gryphon66 that actually proves this is true), as near as I can tell, the steps are:

1. Claim(s)/charge(s) presented to House leadership. There are multiple ways this can happen
- or -

a member can simply submit a resolution for Articles of Impeachment, and House leadership can decide whether or not to bring them to the floor to be voted on by the whole House. If passed, the President is Impeached.

2. An initial examination of the charges is performed (optional, different ways to do this, can be done behind closed doors).

Step 2 is where the dems have been, but they've been trying to pretend they'd already successfully implemented Step 3.

3. If the initial examination of the charges warrants it, a formal Resolution to initiate an Impeachment Inquiry is voted on by the whole House. If it is successful, it sets the rules of engagement, and ensures a fair and impartial inquiry/investigation. If it is unsuccessful, it either goes away, or goes back to Step 1/2.

4. At some point, it is either determined there is insufficient evidence to hold a vote to Impeach, or formal Articles of Impeachment are submitted to the whole House and a vote to Impeach is held. If successful, it goes to the Senate for trial. If it fails, it either goes away, or goes back to Steps 1/2...

originally posted by: Oraculi
Looks like Trump and his people fell for this Strategy.

Rotflmao! Oh, little grasshopper, just wait...

What now? Will they now have to cooperate?

I expect Trump to fully cooperate, just like he did with the Mueller investigation.

The only strategy they had gets pulled from under their feet.

Only if you don't realize their strategy is to simply have a fair and impartial hearing.

Now the House Rs will see to that.

originally posted by: Notoneofyou
My guess is that they are all in big hurry now as the IG report is coming, and Barr isn't playing around.

They can vote all they want, they're #ed anyhow. Just a matter of time before the rats start cutting deals to save their own hide, and in the process squealing on each other.

Yeah - NN is hoping and praying they can at least win a vote to initiate the inquiry - but I'm wondering if she even has the votes for that. Probably... but maybe not.

What will be interesting, is if they don't have the votes to continue the impeachment "inquiry".

Will they continue anyway?

originally posted by: darkbake
Actually, the plan the whole time has been to do closed-door depositions first, and then, after gathering preliminary information,

What they were doing was way beyond an 'initial examination of the charges'. They were unlawfully in full-blown inquiry mode, without taking teh required vote.

hold the impeachment vote

This isn't an impeachment vote, this is a vote to hold a formal inquiry - what the Rs and Trump have been calling for all along.

and do public proceedings.

Yes - and the first thing the Rs will do I'm sure is re-call all of those prior witnesses, and expose their lies to everyone.

Nothing changed because of Republican pressure. Things are going exactly as planned. Yes, she has the votes, I've already researched that. So...

You've researched it - oh, ok, so, I guess we can all go home now. lol

I'm leaning toward she has the votes to initiate the inquiry, but I'm still not convinced she has the votes for actual impeachment, and now that all of the evidence and witness testimony will be in public, the longer they wait and the more testimony is exposed, the less their chances of a successful impeachment vote.

originally posted by: Bhadhidar
Not only has the preliminary information been gathered, but that information has pointed to, and verified, the proof Pelosi has wanted all this time that will anchor a “bulletproof” case for impeachment when presented to the Senate for trial.

Yeah, he's on the ropes this time, for sure!!!!!

Rotflmao!

originally posted by: UKTruth
Because right now it looks as if all they have is a case of the President of the United States - the top law enforcement official in the land - asking an ally for help investigating the crimes of a US citizen.

Also, the US citizen in question was engaged in potentially criminal, or at the very least shady dealings in said ally's country, and there is a formal reciprocal agreement in place allowing just this kind of cooperation.

It isn't like they asked for help investigating Bernie or Kamala for something they did here in the States.

This show is really spectacular to watch...

a reply to: tanstaafl

The Republicans won't be able to call in anyone because it will still be an "Inquiry" and not an investigation.

The Republicans will still be left out.

All this does is attempts to authorize punitive actions towards the White House if they fail to answer to the subpoena's.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: tanstaafl

The Republicans won't be able to call in anyone because it will still be an "Inquiry" and not an investigation.

The Republicans will still be left out.

All this does is attempts to authorize punitive actions towards the White House if they fail to answer to the subpoena's.

It depends on what is in the authorizing resolution.

If it is the same as past resolutions, you are wrong, because those all gave equal supoena power to the other party...

Nancy's yammerings suggest it may actually be fair - but we will see.

If it isn't - if it doesn't grant the Rs the same powers as the dems, you can be sure there will be a lot of legitimate complaints that it is still a violation of due process.

a reply to: DBCowboy

The Republicans aren't left out, members of each Committee are in the room, asking questions. You can thank the Republican House c. 2015 for the changes in the rules for issuing subpoenas.

a reply to: Gryphon66

But would Republicans have subpoena power during an official Inquiry?

originally posted by: tanstaafl

More than likely they are doing this in response to Graham's Resolution condemning their fake inquiry as illegitimate (because it is), and realize if they want the Senate to do its part, they have to do this.

Unlikely, since Graham's Resolution didn't garner enough votes.

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: tanstaafl

More than likely they are doing this in response to Graham's Resolution condemning their fake inquiry as illegitimate (because it is), and realize if they want the Senate to do its part, they have to do this.

Unlikely, since Graham's Resolution didn't garner enough votes.

50 is only the co-signers. More could vote for it if it was submitted. Even if it only t he 50 though, they also have the V.P, which means enough votes (admittedly only barely).

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Gryphon66

But would Republicans have subpoena power during an official Inquiry?

Chances are no (rigged). But the "resolution" is supposedly being written and released today. 😃