Breaking: DOJ Launches Criminal Investigation Seeks Charges In Russia Probe

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: burntheships

Yes..Warner helped John McCain get the fake Trump-Russia dossier to "certain people". Not clear who yet. Warner needs to testify, LOL.


Meanwhile as Rudy Giuliani promised, ROMANIA corruption is now blowing up in the Biden's faces.

twitter.com...

anyone remember that flynn guy????
not the one from the tron films.....
the one who "lied"......

I think he is in the news today......

originally posted by: Extorris
I also think it highly likely they will vote to impeach,

Maybe, but the reality is, the prior 3 resolutions were tabled because they didn't have the votes. I think it is highly likely they still don't have the votes. It is tricky, the way they are manipulatingb things, they might have a short window where they could Impeach, but they are just as likely to miss it as hit it, because the longer they wait and continue this charade of a fake impeachment inquiry, the more likely enough information will come out that support will evaporate entirely save the few lunatics pushing it.

originally posted by: IAMTAT

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: burntheships

Yes..Warner helped John McCain get the fake Trump-Russia dossier to "certain people". Not clear who yet.

The name Evan McMullin comes to mind.

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Yep. That's the guy. Your mind is sharp as always, IAMTAT.

President Trump is expected to make a statement on Barr/Durham in the next hour, reports FoxNews.

a reply to: shooterbrody

Regarding General Flynn, James Clapper told the media when to take "the kill shot", to help entrap him in 2017.

www.foxnews.com...

BTW..I think ATS needs to start a new section called "Deep State Corruption".

originally posted by: Sookiechacha

originally posted by: IAMTAT
No surprise here.
Anyone not listening to CNN or MSNBC...KNEW this was coming.

...Knew it was already here. Rudy Giuliani's been talking about it since February! We know Bill Barr went to Italy to get dirt, and the whole "Ukrainian One" excuse is that Ukraine was being asked to help with an ongoing investigation.

They had to announce it, especially after Bill Barr's name came up in the phone call transcript!

The timing of this announcement, however, is quite transparent. It's a distraction from all the very bad information that came of out of all the damning testimony's in the House depositions.

I just don't understand how any one can be this dense.

There is no damning testimony coming out of the sham house questioning. Bill Taylor is a conspirator - he is the guy that was asking the leading questions in the text messages to sundland, trying to get him to say something about quid pro quo.

He is the guy Schiff's staff went to visit in the Ukraine a few weeks ago.

He is the only one saying quid pro quo happened. Sundland and Volker said that did not happen, as has the Ukrainian prime minister and several other Ukranian officials. Then there is the transcript that clearly shows there is no quid pro quo. Then there is the fact the Ukranian's did not even know there was a hold on the aid until a month after the call.

Schiff lied about meeting with the whistle blower. He has lied a hundred times about having evidence of Russia collusion but has never produced anything. He is keeping all testimony secret and selectively leaking only damaging info.

I really don't understand how anyone cannot see how this an obvious frame attempt.

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: shooterbrody

Regarding General Flynn, James Clapper told the media when to take "the kill shot", to help entrap him in 2017.

www.foxnews.com...

"you shouldn't have come back flynn......"

prey tell how was it that they knew flynn lied again?
I don't think that question was ever answered.......

did they have a fisa warrant on flynn????

a reply to: shooterbrody

The FISA Spy Warrant on Carter Page is what opened the door for Trump's entire team to be spied upon..electronically via other countries, and also using H.I.. (Human Intelligence), like Mifsud and Downer.

originally posted by: burntheships
a reply to: Extorris

Different story, different thread.

Do you not understand? Even if The House
votes to approve impeachment, which they
most certainly will not; that has nothing to
do with this story.

They are two separate issues.

Missed it again LOL

a reply to: shooterbrody

That might go all the way back to 2014 and 15 when
Halper was attempting to set up Flynn by inviting
him to a dinner where the one woman who
was a Russian scholar also attended.

Later the media accused Flynn of having an
affair with her. Its bizarre, they were trying
to trap Flynn in a lair long ago.

originally posted by: CriticalStinker
Personally I think they're giving just enough fodder to both sides to keep them at odds.

I don't think we'll see any bombshells by 2020 for anyone, just enough to keep everyone riled up.

No this is incorrect.

There was an actual bombshell yesterday involving Flynn. I bet you are not even familiar with it, and if you are you write it off as lies. It shows they edited the 302's to be able to charge him with perjury. It is blockbuster proof they framed him. Strock and Page and McCabe did this - the same people working on the Russia investigation.

This is the real problem - the left is so brainwashed they will not believe actual facts - such as there was no Russian collusion. There are still millions convinced it happened despite 30 million spent on an investigation headed by 12 trump hating investigators being unable to find anything - and clearly stating so in the report.

The brainwashing is so severe, crazy leftists actually site the report that says no collusion happened, as proof it did.

So if you are saying none of the bombshells will make much difference - that I will agree with - but I will not agree there will be none that come out.

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: shooterbrody

The FISA Spy Warrant on Carter Page is what opened the door for Trump's entire team to be spied upon..electronically via other countries, and also using H.I.. (Human Intelligence), like Mifsud and Downer.

oh....
so we are back full circle at the "beginning"....
hmm....what was that term...."unmasking".....

there was something in the news recently about the fbi getting in trouble in court for domestic spying i think.....

hmm curious....

President Trump is now giving a press briefing. Confirms that ROMANIA is about to blow-up on Joe/Hunter Biden.

If I didn't have to go, I'd start a thread on it. News coming out now, as Giuliani promised. Bad news for Bidens.

Looks like President Trump is up and firing away this morning.

He has accused Obama of treason.

www.washingtonexaminer.com...

a reply to: burntheships

“The interesting thing out of all of this is that we caught them spying on the election. They were spying on my campaign. So you know? What is that all about?” said Trump. “I have never ever said this, but truth is, they got caught spying. They were spying,” said Trump who then added, “Obama.”

well now

perhaps he only said it because barak did it?

a reply to: shooterbrody

Lisa Page did say "The Whitehouse is running this".

Hmmm......

a reply to: underwerks

Most likely it will be Brennan and Clapper that is the target, since they orchestrated the whole Russian narrative. They prob won't get Obama only because it would be too political. But if they do kudos to them.

a reply to: proximo

There was an actual bombshell yesterday involving Flynn. I bet you are not even familiar with it, and if you are you write it off as lies.

Bold bet.

This is the real problem - the left is so brainwashed they will not believe actual facts - such as there was no Russian collusion. There are still millions convinced it happened despite 30 million spent on an investigation headed by 12 trump hating investigators being unable to find anything - and clearly stating so in the report.

I think most who reside on fringe partisanship only consume the media and environments that cater to their ideology. Hence my original prediction that all of this is just enough to keep both sides riled up... 2016 was a sober wake up call for the establishment... The front runners for both parties didn't represent them, and America en mass said we're sick of it, but the left pulled some strings and got an establishment candidate on the ticket.

So if you are saying none of the bombshells will make much difference - that I will agree with - but I will not agree there will be none that come out.

I'd be inclined to agree with you that it won't make much difference... I think 2020 will go as planned.

May I quote you?

originally posted by: CriticalStinker

I think most who reside on fringe partisanship only consume the media and environments that cater to their ideology. Hence my original prediction that all of this is just enough to keep both sides riled up... 2016 was a sober wake up call for the establishment... The front runners for both parties didn't represent them, and America en mass said we're sick of it, but the left pulled some strings and got an establishment candidate on the ticket.

originally posted by: Gryphon66
May I quote you?

originally posted by: CriticalStinker

I think most who reside on fringe partisanship only consume the media and environments that cater to their ideology. Hence my original prediction that all of this is just enough to keep both sides riled up... 2016 was a sober wake up call for the establishment... The front runners for both parties didn't represent them, and America en mass said we're sick of it, but the left pulled some strings and got an establishment candidate on the ticket.

Absolutely, I'll add to it as well.

The establishment is ironically doing what the media did in the lead up to 16'. They're helping him win. The media's infatuation with Trump gave him more coverage per capita than any of the other candidates. It's estimated he got 2-5 billion in free coverage in the lead up to the election. Funny, because I believe it was Trump who said no publicity is bad publicity.

So the media and establishment haven't learned their lesson, or this is part of their strategy... I'm still torn on which it is... But I'm leaning towards maybe they're making it work in their favor. People who were straying away from the parties have realigned themselves due to the polarity of it all. After Trump, the parties will be just as strong as before 16' when people were starting to tap out.

And, as it stands, the status quo seems to be alive and healthy. Trump may end up being the Obama of the right, tons of promises while everything relatively stays the same... Though he has time to prove me wrong.

a reply to: underwerks

Either you're in denial or so ill informed that you think you're making a salient point.

All the available evidence suggests an effort by members of Obama's intelligence community/FBI/DOJ to unseat a duly elected president. The framework was put in place during the 2016 campaign just in case Trump won the election.
Fraud on the FISA Court (illegal surveillance of U.S. citizens) being only the tip of the iceberg.

The CIA/FBI, via Mifsud, planted info with a Trump campaign staffer then, with the help of another 5 eyes asset (Downer), attempted to "extract" the planted info and use it as justification for beginning a counter intelligence investigation. They painted Mifsud as a Russian asset when, in fact, all available evidence suggests he is a western intelligence asset.
Meanwhile, Halper, acting on behalf of the FBI was attempting something similar with Carter Paige.

Meanwhile, the DNC/Hillary Campaign, through their lawfirm Perkins Coie, hired Fusion GPS, who paid a former British intel officer to compile the dossier. The dossier was a combination of info collected from Russian intelligence sources, CNN comment sections and random crap pulled out of thin air. Nellie Ohr was one of the main Fusion GPS employees working with Steele. Ohr's husband Bruce also just happens to work for the DOJ. Nellie began giving the info to Bruce, who then began pushing it to the FBI. At the same time, at least one Perkins Coie employee began shopping it around as well.

All of the above, knowingly false, info was used to justify opening the investigation and later the Mueller probe. The whole thing was a fraud. The Mueller report continued to paint Mifsud as a Russian asset when they knew damn well he wasn't. Also, under questioning, Mueller acted like he didn't even know who Fusion GPS was. That's right, the guy "investigating" foreign election interference said he wasn't familiar with the firm who hired a former british spy to collect info from, among other suspect sources, Russian intelligence officials and then disseminated it to as many government officials as possible. Fusion GPS just happened to be working with the Russian lawyer who initiated the whole "Trump Tower meeting" as well. Weird, right?

There's even more to this but I think I've made my point. Are you honestly not familiar with any of this? If not, you're about two years behind. Do try to keep up.