Skinny Bob Colorized and New Details

a reply to: IMSAM

Everything you've presented has been explained and covered earlier in this thread and elsewhere on the internet.
Info on the Ivan footage has become very convoluted and the 2011 debunks are outdated.

I'm a bit tired of repeating what's been said so I'll just tackle the 3d.sk debacle.

Here is "ivan0135" on the 3d.sk website
www.3d.sk...
It's also ivan0000,0001,0002,0003, etc.

It's not a user, it's a person posing for 3D model referencing.
However there is a place to submit user content, www.3d.sk...

originally posted by: edharris79

it's probably from an x-files episode:

www.deviantart.com...

originally posted by: IMSAM
a reply to: SlowMaxon


The use of Ivan along with the fact that his work was first in 3d.sk pointed that he was some russian or slav that just happened to smuggle some kgb file. Notice that the kgb logo appears in many videos in youtube unrelated to skinny bob. The same logo appears in the documentary The Kgb files with Roger Moore.
Was this ivan-nova-judy-phellipe3d many people or one troll wanting to get some laughs. It seems he was one person and one person only. After he run from here tarred and feathered he made a youtube channel attacking both owners and members with accusations of pedophilia which is good base for a lawsuit for slander and defamation of character.

Judy Faltskog and James Van Greunen were one and the same person, Ivan

was an associate as was Wayne Hershel

Here is nova-judys whatever he is called now channel with the accusations(this whole channel has been downloaded so dont bother deleting if you are reading this judy

)

Those vids are old hat from ten years ago and the events leading up to

them were in a thread which revealed her hoax.

Full story.....www.abovetopsecret.com...

She was also outed as a hoaxer by the late Cynthia Hind and the late

Tony Dodd's both writers and investigators of UFO's/ Aliens

Also there is a German man who was interested in UFO's (I forget his name)

who was contacted on that thread and was owed money by Judy Faltskog/

James Van Greunen who paid his medical bills for information, which

surprise.....surprise s/he left the country without giving........

Its ALL in that thread!

originally posted by: edharris79
a reply to: AlienAnonymous

so does anyone know about this ? i seen this pic years ago and it never popped into my head until i watched family vacation. could this be confirmation ? notice the height of the two in that image and the height on the family vacation video look at the outfit. im thinking its them it just struck me kinda funny. imo if this image hasn't been debunked id say that they are from the same event or visitation.

Well you should know seeing you joined this forum yesterday to make your

three (up to now) posts on this thread.

This thread which has a host of new members joining simply to post here

Hmmmmmn.....

a reply to: eletheia



exactly, I posted them one page back but it seems theres a team of people wanting to do their part on ats. In any case all the relevant data and proof has been posted. Let them do their part, could be another of phelipe3d social experiments at work

Hopefully the mods will check all these new accounts and tell us what is going on

a reply to: eletheia

Believe what you want, let me know if you find anything to support ivan being judy. The south africa tag is the only evidence so far and it's compelling but not enough to disprove the footage. Randy Turner has also claimed to be Ivan so maybe he can help.

Till there's some solid evidence I'm gonna stay out of the Faltskog conversation.

Some people seem to have a lot of time, energy and maybe even money invested in reviving this Skinny Bob fiasco.

originally posted by: SlowMaxon

Believe what you want, let me know if you find anything to support ivan being judy. The south africa tag is the only evidence so far and it's compelling but not enough to disprove the footage. Randy Turner has also claimed to be Ivan so maybe he can help.

Till there's some solid evidence I'm gonna stay out of the Faltskog conversation.

Is there anywhere I have said Ivan was Judy?

But this is fact not hearsay........

James van Greunen was from South Africa who came to the UK at the age

20yrs (aprox) He was arrested in Canada for impersonation an Army officer

of high ranking. The UK government had a 'home office' file out on him

should he return to the UK.

He went to Germany married a German woman and had at least one child

(but I think two) After a sex change he became Judy Faltskog who came to

the UK for a time before returning to Germany where as far as I know s/he

still is.Many times s/he has tried to deny his S.African heritage by claiming

s/he came from Sweden.......He didn't!

S/he has been wanted for fraud in S.Africa, the UK and Germany in both

identies.


Like all hoaxers s/he has associates ...... as I said in another post, including

Ivan and Wane Hershell.

a reply to: eletheia

My mistake. I agree she's absolutely a fraud.
What proof is there that Ivan is her associate?

a reply to: SlowMaxon


Now you agree do you? You keep asking for proof. Yet you probably haven't read a single link in this thread. You want others to do the work for you? judy-ivan-nova-phelippe3d-greunan are either one person OR a small team of three. An honour guard maybe


Watch this video,it has all the answers




The investigation in these new accounts takes quite some time, Wonder what the mods will find

Here is philepes3d thread

I think we can safely say skinny bob was a creation of Philipe3d. At first i thought ivan and judy where one and the same, but judy is judy and philipe is a talented troll. Here is some work from philip notice the hands





Here is a video from ivans0135 channel





skip to 0:39




For those of you who might wonder why he never came forward or claim anything it is my opinion that he got scared.

The Creation This alien above bring me some fun, problems, and also, fear. Thanks to this work, I suffered two death threats. The video above is part of a short story published in chapters in my blog, called “The report of a MIB .”

These threats where for his other video here




I believe had his accomplice judy not been found out as the fraud she was, the next step of her plan after the supposed signal she found would be the videos philipe prepared. Since she was found out the skiny bob videos didn't gain traction back then but someone tries really hard now

a reply to: IMSAM

I'm friends with Phillip on facebook, he didn't make Skinny Bob.
I think we can safely say you jump to conclusions too quickly.

originally posted by: SlowMaxon
a reply to: IMSAM

I'm friends with Phillip on facebook, he didn't make Skinny Bob.
I think we can safely say you jump to conclusions too quickly.

originally posted by: SlowMaxon
a reply to: IMSAM

I'm friends with Phillip on facebook, he didn't make Skinny Bob.
I think we can safely say you jump to conclusions too quickly.

Don't ya know on the internet you can be whoever you want to be?

AND

Judy lives in my basement!!!!

a reply to: eletheia

Would be better to argue that he's lying to me than it is to say it's someone impersonating him.

His profile is listed on one of his websites.
www.philipekling.com...
Ask him yourself.

a reply to: IMSAM
i have still yet to see any conclusive evidence that this was a hoax on this entire thread on this entire site. all i do hear is conjecture and very bad conjecture. where is the evidence ?

originally posted by: edharris79
a reply to: IMSAM
i have still yet to see any conclusive evidence that this was a hoax on this entire thread on this entire site. all i do hear is conjecture and very bad conjecture. where is the evidence ?

Where is the evidence it is not fake?

If it is real WHERE are the BODIES?

Is skinny Bob alive..... if so he must be somewhere?

If he has expired..... WHERE ARE HIS REMAINS? or did they just vanish?

a reply to: eletheia

There's a lot of evidence that it's not fake, some listed in the OP.
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Evidence that it's real film
not evidence that these aliens are real, the video itself is evidence of that.
We're here to see how the evidence holds up.
The debunk videos IMSAM posted have been debunked themselves.
It gets many things wrong especially with the timestamp.

originally posted by: SlowMaxon

Evidence that it's real film

The film exists.....yes that's obvious the subject is FAKE.

not evidence that these aliens are real,

SO the point of the film? And more to the point where are the bodies?

the video itself is evidence of that.

^^^^A contradiction in terms^^^^

a reply to: SlowMaxon

I've spoken to Randy at length.

Although he claims he smuggled that footage out of a military installation,
there is nothing, anywhere to prove that he was ever in the military.

Randy is not Ivan.
That is a huge dead end.