Skinny Bob Colorized and New Details

originally posted by: [post=24769741]ConfusedBrit[I only wish I could be as confident as you to hold such a concrete life-changing belief. I'm sure every Tom, Dick and Harriet here wishes the same.

I wish you could too. I need more believers to talk to as talking to non-believer/deniers gets me nowhere. In fact I should not even respond to them.

As for "life-changing event", I was so young that it was terrifying, and I slept for about 2 years all covered up with only enough space between the blankets for me to breath. My family would always ask me why but I was too afraid to tell them. I told no one. I thought surely They saw me that night and They might come to get me. So I hid under the blankets.

My second sighting was in the exact same place but now I was a teenager, and seeing it with my father it was more of a reaffirming event than a "life-changing" one. It was now, "Yes, I was right!" But I still did not tell my father about the first time. I should have, because my father had to have seen the first one too. I just did not want to relive the experience.

I told my neighbor friends about it, but they were like, "Wow, cool. Why don't we go play some records." They lived right there next to me yet never saw anything, or at least never admitted it. You have to be very lucky, right place right time and looking at the right spot, because they do not make any noise.

This whole thing with Bob is just entertainment for me, no more a waste of time than watching and discussing science fiction films. Are we looking at the real thing? Probably not, but what if it is!

originally posted by: spiritualarchitect

originally posted by: Ectoplasm8
Just as assuming this is real based off your personal feelings. Proving the validity of something as important and life changing as this isn't left to feelings, it's left to scientific scrutiny and facts.

The default still remains a grounded Earthly explaination.

Well here is the scrutiny and here are the facts.

If you walk out and look in the street and see a truck, your feelings have nothing to do with it, you saw a truck and that is that. I looked in the sky and saw a flying saucer, my feelings had nothing to do with it, I saw a saucer and that was that.

It was not anything made by man because man cannot make anything that looks like that and flies like that. He could not do it then and he cannot do it now.

So I know They are here because it was not flown by man, it was not flown by bottle rockets or ball lightning or even water buffaloes. It was flown by Them. And the people who have seen Them tell us that many of Them look like our Bobby boy here. The military calls them EBE’s. And since I know the EBE’s are here, I do not need to be bound to the ground by your Earthly explanations. That default is for you not for me.

I know the EBE’s are here so you can bet the military knows the EBE’s are here. And they are not going to tell you because they are keeping it from you. Go underground at S4 or Wright Pat or Dulce and you will have all the evidence you need. Of course once you do that they will make sure you are “Earthly grounded” for good.

? This is about the alien video. You begin talking about UFOs then go off on your absolute statements again, none of which you have any evidence or facts to back up.
- UFOs aren't anything made by man
- You know "EBEs" are here
- The military knows about "EBEs"
- You know UFOs aren't piloted by man
- S4, Wright Patterson, Dulce, have evidence of "EBEs" in underground bases.

All this evidence apparently only exists in the believer mind because it's never been presented to anyone. It just sounds like you've naively fallen victim to popular alien lore. Lore that is void of any evidence as well. The fabricated stories. Obviously believing the nonsense that's been sold to you. You're deeply involved in the delusion.
Just because you believe you saw/experienced something you can't understand, doesn't automatically make other experiences real. They still need to be met with heavy skeptism.

Before anyone asks for a similar CGI version of the video, provide the research that has been done to find the source of the video. I'd like to see the path back to the originator. Or the proof that the video has a military background. You keep saying it's "possibly" military.

It's believing this type of nonsense above where the phenomenon loses credibility. I'm guessing you believe in the MJ-12 documents, Eisenhowers secret meeting with aliens, and so on too?

Paragraphs were not present in my former post because it was directly copy/pasted from Youtube comment section. I wanted to leave it exactly as the original author wrote it, even though it was very difficult to read. He/she obviously spent more time into putting thoughts down than formatting.

I'm trying to figure out why all of the skeptics think that dozens upon dozens of witness testimonies of military personnel is not evidence?? Are they all crazy? Or do men who have proclaimed that they would be willing to testify before the highest court in the nation that what they have shared is the absolute truth have a profitable ulterior motive? What have they gained by risking their reputation and reputation of sanity?

What about archaeological evidence (some recently turned up in Mexico) showing obviously non human entities and saucer like craft??

When you state that there is absolutely no physical evidence, please tell us what would constitute physical evidence. It's obvious we don't know....

@spiritualarchitect and @BelowBottomPublicity -- I would love to chat more about your personal experiences, but my account appears to be too new yet to private message you.

originally posted by: Ectoplasm8
Just because you believe you saw/experienced something you can't understand, doesn't automatically make other experiences real.

Of course I understand it. And I just explained it to you.
If you walk out and look in the street and see a truck, your feelings have nothing to do with it, you saw a truck and that is that. I looked in the sky and saw a flying saucer, my feelings had nothing to do with it, I saw a saucer and that was that.

So if you walk outside and see a truck that does not mean that someone else who walked outside could have seen a truck too? Of course it does. So if one person sees a saucer another person could see a saucer.

Your only out is that everyone who has seen a saucer is a liar. Because you are afraid to believe in aliens and you cannot prove that those flying saucers were made by man, then all you have is the hope that everyone is lying.

originally posted by: spiritualarchitect

originally posted by: Ectoplasm8
Just because you believe you saw/experienced something you can't understand, doesn't automatically make other experiences real.

Of course I understand it. And I just explained it to you.
If you walk out and look in the street and see a truck, your feelings have nothing to do with it, you saw a truck and that is that. I looked in the sky and saw a flying saucer, my feelings had nothing to do with it, I saw a saucer and that was that.

So if you walk outside and see a truck that does not mean that someone else who walked outside could have seen a truck too? Of course it does. So if one person sees a saucer another person could see a saucer.

Your only out is that everyone who has seen a saucer is a liar. Because you are afraid to believe in aliens and you cannot prove that those flying saucers were made by man, then all you have is the hope that everyone is lying.

Theres no comparing a man made object that everyone sees daily to some ephemeral event such as a UFO sighting, but let's ignore that for a moment.

If you claim to have seen a flying saucer, then I'll take your word for it because its inconsequential if your being truthful or not.

However, to extrapolate from that sighting a whole folklore about aliens and such is irrational.

I've seen things in the sky myself, things that I have no explanation for. Still, there is no reason for me to draw an conclusions as to what those things were as there is no other data other than the visual event. Sure, there is an explanation for this strange phenomena but absolutely zero evidence to say what that is. I'm okay with fun speculation but won't incorporate such into my worldview.

originally posted by: Ectoplasm8
I'm guessing you believe in the MJ-12 documents, Eisenhowers secret meeting with aliens, and so on too?

How many books on UFO's have you actually read? After studying the above I do believe in the MJ-12 docs because there is plenty of evidence that thye are real and all the evidence against them being false has already been shot down by the people who study these things for a living. Even If MJ-12 docs were fake you know as well as we do that the government would put together a secret group to study them. They are not going to just let a saucer and its crew sit around in a basement and not do anything about it. They are going to study it and take them all apart. And they are not going to tell you about it because they want it keep secret.

But not everybody can keep or wants to keep a secret. We are sure you have heard the term "whistle blower", and that is exactly how something like the MJ-12 docs get out to the public. Someone discovers them and gets them out to the public.

This is the same thing that happened with Eisenhower. There are plenty of military "whistle blower" eyewitnesses that have told us that Eisenhower was at Edwards Air Force Base and met with aliens there in a pre-arranged meeting. They were there in 1954 and saw it happen. We know that the Eisenhower cover story was false, because Eisenhower never went to the dentist.

There are other "whistle blowers", those being the military personal who were at Holloman in 1955 and witnessed Eisenhower meet with aliens there in another pre-arranged meeting. They saw him walk down the ramp of Air Force One and meet the entity at the entrance to the saucer. Then they saw him enter the saucer. He stayed in it for 45 minutes. Over 300 people saw this one. A few of them could not keep it secret. Supposedly these meetings were about stopping nuclear weapon testing. On the shady side, these likely were the meetings where the EBE's made a pact to trade transportation technology in exchange for the rights to experiment on humans - thus beginning the catch and release abductions.

Once again, these events are being told to us by military personal who were there. They were there, you were not. There is no reason for us to not believe them just because you refuse to believe that eyewitness testimony is evidence.

Unless you are blind, everything in your life revolves around eyewitness evidence. That truck you saw was eyewitness evidence. This text you are reading is eyewitness evidence. And the Vacation Video too is probably about eyewitness evidence. Because another group of military eyewitnesses state that at Holloman in 1964, 3 flying saucers showed up and 1 made a landing. The 3 occupants who came out of it had blue-gray skin and were dressed in tight-fitting flight suits. They were met by the Air Force base commander and four other officers and were escorted into the base faculties.

This visually matches what we see in the Vacation Video, so real or not, this is probably the event the video is based on.

originally posted by: Ectoplasm8
Before anyone asks for a similar CGI version of the video, provide the research that has been done to find the source of the video. I'd like to see the path back to the originator.

We have already covered that earlier in the thread. Supposedly Ivan0135 was the first one to post the videos. No one knows who filmed the videos. No one knows who owns the videos. No one even knows for sure who Ivan is or what happened to him. There is no proof that Judy is Ivan or that Judy is even telling the truth.

originally posted by: Ectoplasm8
Or the proof that the video has a military background. You keep saying it's "possibly" military.

Well if real, it is possible it could be military film. But there is nothing that shows that those are military men in the Vacation video. So let’s see, what else it could be.

Do you think some plumber was driving down the road and filmed that first saucer? Do you think some dentist was flying along and filmed that second saucer? Do you think some rancher was riding along and filmed that second saucer after it crashed? Do you think some doctor filmed Bob inside the building? Do you think some farmer filmed those Greys walking along? Do you think all of this film has been in someone's farm house for all these years?

All of that is possible. It does not have to be military at all, could be just some lucky farmer who gathered all these films together. Maybe he sold them all to Ivan and bought a new tractor.

We don’t know. But one thing we do know is that in 8 years no one has matched the video creation of Bob with their own Bob. If you want to prove it is fake, have someone make a new video that looks just like Bob. They have an 8 year technological head start. Good luck. Like Marky Mark back there, we will be waiting.

originally posted by: Somniferum
Theres no comparing a man made object that everyone sees daily to some ephemeral event such as a UFO sighting... I've seen things in the sky myself, things that I have no explanation for.

I disagree. There is NO difference. You are looking at a concrete, material object in front of you. No different than if you are looking at a truck or a tree. If your arms were long enough you could reach out and touch it.

My father and I had an immediate explanation for it because people had been seeing the same things for nearly a quarter century. They were on television, they were in movies, they were in magazines. It was a physical craft flying in the sky in the shape of a saucer. It flew very slow right only twice as high as the rooftops and it made no noise. Nothing man has ever made looks and flies like that. Not then, not now. It was not a balloon, it was not a kite, it was not a light in the sky and it was not swamp gas. It was a flying saucer. Plain and simple. In fact the only thing odd about it was that what at first appeared to be fire or red lights was actually more like plasma.

originally posted by: Somniferum
However, to extrapolate from that sighting a whole folklore about aliens and such is irrational.

Maybe if I saw what you saw, but for me there was already a whole existing history behind what I saw. I was not the first and I was not the last. We do not need to reinvent the wheel every time someone sees one.

originally posted by: Elyei
I'm trying to figure out why all of the skeptics think that dozens upon dozens of witness testimonies of military personnel is not evidence?? Are they all crazy? Or do men who have proclaimed that they would be willing to testify before the highest court in the nation that what they have shared is the absolute truth have a profitable ulterior motive? What have they gained by risking their reputation and reputation of sanity?

From the web:

"Skeptics are brain-washed into thinking that nothing exists other than what is known.
It’s called ethnocentrism."

My sighting is posted here on ATS somewhere. I will have to look for it.

Why do I have the feeling that I'm arguing with the same four clowns under different usernames over these years?

 a reply to: spiritualarchitect

The picture becomes complete after reading your responses. Nothing more needs to be said on that.

Skeptics are brain-washed into thinking that nothing exists other than what is known. 
It’s called ethnocentrism.

Let me clue you in on a little secret. Many skeptics have to research for themselves because the UFO/alien product sold over these years was created by people that wanted to sell it and therefore supported it. I can rattle off a list of authors, but I won't. What we've read, heard, and watched over these years are the sensationalized portions of a story. Betty and Barney Hill, Roswell, JAL 1628, Pascagoula, and so on. We never really heard the full story. So anyone looking for the truth had to do so by searching for it. With the advent of the internet, we now have easy access to interviews, videos, etc. Once you do this, you realize many points were purposely ignored and left out to make for a better story. This isn't being brainwashed by anyone, it's coming to a conclusion based on both sides of a story - aka the truth. The brainwashed ones are the believers too lazy to research for themselves that have bought into and hold tight onto this UFO/alien tale. It's a one-sided view. Open your mind and do a little research yourselves.

Because you are afraid to believe in aliens

So tell me exactly why I'm afraid.

Computer Simulated
60FPS Skinny Bob

BTW, this so called Skinny Bob specie has been referred to as a Grey, presumably from Zeta Reticuli. I do not know if it is real or animation, although there is a better than even that it is authentic. In either case, it is not a Grey, Zeta, Solipsi Rae ET. Nor do I believe this was the Skinny Bob of ET lore, that was "modeled" or "filmed."

It is called Emether and this is catalogued as such by working groups here and in other Countries. In any case, anyone referring to it other than such is incorrect.

a reply to: UFOsAnonymous

Are you saying, it's a simulation or you are running a program to simulate the frame rates?


What is your conclusion?

TY

a reply to: Ectoplasm8

All your points are taken but, you state the following:

"Once you do this, you realize many points were purposely ignored and left out to make for a better story."

This in an incorrect and erroneous statement based on your subjective, not normative OPINIONS. Unless, you are specific about what you are referring, there is nothing there. I would also submit, that the opposite has also occurred in many cases. Specifically, Travis Walton and even Benny and Barney Hill. Furthermore, since there has been an active disinformation and military counterintelligence campaign for decades, including Project Blue Book (which backfired against the USAF), I would state that research has become both more open and difficult to discern.

a reply to: Ectoplasm8

"I'm guessing you believe in the MJ-12 documents, Eisenhowers secret meeting with aliens, and so on too?"

Regarding the MJ-12 docs, if you are claiming they are fakes, you really need to slow your role.

I am aware of a former military group researching archives and making active FOIA requests in the last two months, with significant luck. All I will say, is when certain meetings were supposedly held, the star players all align ;-)

Therefore, even if you think there is truth mixed with half-truth in the documents, and you find information that there was a indeed a special group of scientific, military, and brilliant civilian thinkers meeting about something as part of a team, and the USG went through great lengths to keep the particulars about the nature of the group secret - wouldn't you admit that its at least possible that they were discussing UFO's and ET?

I say this respectfully, history may not be so kind to your way of thinking or lack thereof.

a reply to: play4keeps
Simulated 60FPS from less than 16FPS with frame prediction.
Make sure to change the settings to 1080p60.
Conclusion is the same as before, Skinny Bob is real.

a reply to: UFOsAnonymous

Affirmative; based on my "privileged" experiences involving anatomy and physiology, primarily the evolution of species in variant environments, including gravitational fields, I concur.

originally posted by: play4keeps
a reply to: Ectoplasm8

All your points are taken but, you state the following:

"Once you do this, you realize many points were purposely ignored and left out to make for a better story."

This in an incorrect and erroneous statement based on your subjective, not normative OPINIONS. Unless, you are specific about what you are referring, there is nothing there. I would also submit, that the opposite has also occurred in many cases. Specifically, Travis Walton and even Benny and Barney Hill. Furthermore, since there has been an active disinformation and military counterintelligence campaign for decades, including Project Blue Book (which backfired against the USAF), I would state that research has become both more open and difficult to discern.

Since you brought it up, I'll use the Hill case as an example. The first part of their story where they saw the unidentified light was the only lucid and awake portion. The "abduction" was a part of a series of dreams Betty had 2 weeks later. And those dreams interpreted through hypnosis. A questioned method by many. These are Betty words, not a silly disinformation campaign. Having these dreams has not been a focus of the story told, it's usually skipped for the abduction description. The fact is, Betty had a full 2 weeks, plenty of time to concoct this story and discuss it with Barney before being hypnotized. Pointing out and questioning this is rarely done. Hypnosis isn't a reliable interpretation of the truth and neither are dreams. Accurately drawing a star map with the level of detail that Betty drew is even more of a stretch to believe and ridiculous. Has any of this been discussed along with telling of their story so people can honestly question and come to their own conclusion? Or has the sensationalized BS won out? And I'm talking about when the tale was told. When The Interrupted Journey with James Earl Jones was shown on TV for example. Not since the Internet has come about.

In order to come to a conclusion, you need both sides, not just the garbage told by promoters.

Just as easy to say a disinformation campaign is out there, there's also misinformation spread by those not knowledgeable in the subject. Those that have no right to argue in favor of a case when they never done research themselves.

originally posted by: play4keeps
It is called Emether and this is catalogued as such by working groups here and in other Countries. In any case, anyone referring to it other than such is incorrect.

I do not know the difference between Emether and Greys, except that maybe Greys are not natural living beings like Emether supposedly are, but are more along the lines of a living machine.

And while I am at it, I have no problems with the Hills abduction and I find nothing funny about the Betty Hill star map. I think she drew it from memory, something many other people have done with other subjects. Sure they could have lied, but when I studied the case and I came to the conclusion that the Hills are telling the truth. The aliens have been here for a long time and they are doing something. And according to the eyewitnesses, they are abducting humans.

originally posted by: UFOsAnonymous
a reply to: play4keeps
Simulated 60FPS from less than 16FPS with frame prediction.
Make sure to change the settings to 1080p60.
Conclusion is the same as before, Skinny Bob is real.

ok i have to admit, the movements look a lot smoother now and it has been colorized. not bad editing up to here, thanks. but saying "skinny Bob is real" because of this, is a bit too daring my friend. actually it looks more like a hoax to me now, you can turn it how you like man. if you ask me, i would dump this thread to here slowly, but surely this must come to an end folks

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