Perhaps we can time travel when the present is a memory in the future.

a reply to: Itisnowagain

No mate they will change with our without my observation.

I'm not collapsing that wave function in the maco verse in which we exist.

That's just not how reality works at all.

a reply to: andy06shake

The mind assumes there is other than what is happening.....but where is it?

If thought says there is a past existing or a future existing when would it say it?

a reply to: Itisnowagain

The mind assumes lots of things Itisnowagain.

Some of them you simply have to accept else basic axioms become rather problematic.

Which is really where the crux of your dilemma arises I'm afraid.

For all intent and purpose, you exist Itisnowagain, i exist, and so does everyone else kind enough to offer up their thoughts on the matter.

At some point, you really are going to have to deal with that fact.

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

No it is now everywhere.....all the time.

Believe me, I am acutely aware of this!

ETA - My point, albeit somewhat oblique, was if space-time is indeed curved then people at two different physical locations might not really be in the same time reference.

a reply to: andy06shake

My personal wave function collapse when i die!
And from my point of view all cease to exist...

I'm just a note in the symphony you call macro-verse.

But I'm not the only note in the symphony so it's still playing and still heard.

No Clue

a reply to: andy06shake

Nothing exists.... only what is appearing now does but it is constantly disappearing.

a reply to: Itisnowagain

We know because you have told us so on numerous occasions.

Good luck with that nothing. LoL

I prefer something somewhat more tangible to experience, me and about 7.53 billion other poor souls who also exist.

a reply to: NoClue

That's one way of looking at it i suppose.

And if you are wrong then nobody will be any the wiser, including you.

It's all a symphony i suppose, physics being the Orchestra Conductor of a sorts.

a reply to: andy06shake

Now is what is happening.... it is appearing as all there is.
Who can deal with that?

There is no thing separate to what is actually occuring.

a reply to: Itisnowagain

Repeating the same crap does not make it so.

Anyhoo, back to life, back to reality.

Need to go do some stuff in the present.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Itisnowagain

Anyhoo, back to life, back to reality.

Need to go do some stuff in the present.

There is only reality... what could go back to it?
The present is appearing as whatever is appearing.

a reply to: Itisnowagain

Look I wasn't sure about why you are so obsessed with this perspective it is valid and it invalidates all of the individuals experience.
So yes it is a very good point to become aware of what we really are. But it's a lonely place all interaction becomes meaningless.
I wonder why do you even interact with people anywhere?
Why do you want them to be where you are? You would loose all significance as an individual to the other, once he would get there.
There is no shared reality from where you look, it's always a lonely place to be for everyone.

And I think nobody wants to feel alone.

So you won't get company ever until you manage to change point of view accept others to look at you and include their vision of yourself as a part of yourself! Even if it is just for a brief moment and as long as you feel comfortable.

I know it can be painful and unpleasant, but knowing what you know, who created that pain in the first place?

Sincerely No Clue

a reply to: Itisnowagain

Ok mate, shape it as you will i suppose.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Itisnowagain

Ok mate, shape it as you will i suppose.

No I won't.

What is this thing named 'I'?

The one life is happening.... there is no thing separate.

a reply to: Itisnowagain

If there is nothing separate, then you really have nothing to discuss nor add.

Problem solved i imagine, well done! LoL

Aside, of course, the complete and utter shortcomings from such a nonsensical assumption.

Anyhoo you seem to have it all covered and all the answers required, all one of them anyway.

The assumption is there is some thing separate DOING life.... but life is just BEING life.

a reply to: Itisnowagain

Ah so something separate is doing life, but not life itself???

Ok.

If that's the case it may be God or religion which you seek Itisnowagain.

Good luck there, it being rather an extensive minefield and then some.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Itisnowagain

Ah so something separate is doing life, but not life itself???

No..... Life is BEING life...

Read again.

The assumption is there is some thing separate DOING life.... but life is just BEING life.

a reply to: Itisnowagain

How is that possible?