Perhaps we can time travel when the present is a memory in the future.

Can we prove the future exists?

When the future exists a memory there of the present we are in can perhaps be a link to it but maybe only in spirit.

You can counsel demons who have knowledge of the future,
but when you can find yourself in the future through the memories you have there
of your present situation you can time travel to yourself in the present.

The present is known from the future with the future simply being a black hole sucking us in.

We're done relying on the past, no one can tell time is moving us backwards or fowards.

I had the same thought process. Not that it’s possible, just as a thought exercise.

Cool idea.

a reply to: Out6of9Balance

The future only exists if we live to see it.

"When the future exhists a memory there of " etc - you still have to achieve the future memory.

"Done rallying on the past" - but the present known from the future is just that......the past.

a reply to: Out6of9Balance

The future only exists if we live to see it.

"When the future exhists a memory there of " etc - you still have to achieve the future memory.

"Done rallying on the past" - but the present known from the future is just that......the past.

a reply to: Out6of9Balance

The future only exists if we live to see it.

"When the future exhists a memory there of " etc - you still have to achieve the future memory.

"Done rallying on the past" - but the present known from the future is just that......the past.

a reply to: Out6of9Balance

This might be possible...

It makes me think of residuals and de ja vu

The risidual is energy of a memory in someones past life, so in your description it does't quite fit however it is a proof of the past being in the future so it makes one think what you are implying is too possible.

The de ja vu fits more closely with what u are describing because it happens in your present time but feels familiar to you, however for the life of u or the trying to recollect from your memories you can't seem to quite reach a conclusion as to why it feels familliar to u.

Perhaps projecting our minds thoughts to the future which creates a stir or change in our energy field of our present time can and will shape our future. But maybe these thoughts drift away until we actually reach that future moment of that thoughts energy and when we hit it, we exeprience the de ja vu or future in our present.

A real live example that could relate to this is the Wagon Wheel Effect in which scientists try to explain...

At first, when a car begins to speed up, everything seems normal. The car’s wheels are spinning just as one would expect. However, as soon as the wheels start gaining considerable speed, an anomaly occurs. At a certain point, the spin of the wheels appears to slow down gradually, and then, for a brief moment, it stops completely. When it resumes, the spin is moving in the opposite direction. We can clearly observe that the car wheels seem to be spinning backwards (opposite to its direction of motion).

This effect is observable mainly on television or in movies. The cameras used in movies don’t capture continuous footage, but rather many images per second. Usually, this capture rate is approximately 24 to 50 frames per second. Our brain fills in the between these images by creating an illusion of continuous movement between similar images.

Wheels Spinning Backwards

I have seen this effect with my very own eyes for sure. Perceptual Rivaly and Visual Cortex play a role according to scientists. One deals with our thoughts, the other deals with our vision.

I dunno, crazy toughts for sure...


leolady

a reply to: Out6of9Balance

Human consciousness is very difficult to understand. Many scientists who believe in philosophical materialism refuse to accept we have consciousness at all. Contrary to the philosophical materialist who believe the brain is like a computer with all the components of mind and consciousness are found inside the material of the brain, there are some people who have studied the problem of consciousness who see the brain is not like a computer but more like a radio receiver. With the radio receiver idea of consciousness, our memories are not stored in our minds but are stored in the fabric of reality within which the consciousness exists.

Then this idea has some interesting implications when it comes to time travel. If you travel back in time when you arrive you will "tune in" to the memories of your mind at that time. If you did not exist, then you would not have any. If you were only 5 years old at the point of time travel you would have all the memories of your five year old self.

It's just a theory unproven and with a few holes. But I like the outside the box thinking (meant literally and a pun!)

a reply to: Out6of9Balance

Time as we perceive it is the movement of a body trough space.

Instead of moving the body through space move time through the body. That's how it works for me, but you have to have full body, mind, soul awareness inorder to control the gravity point, which propells time.

Memories are both stored in time-space and in the body...
Sincerely No Clue

originally posted by: NoClue
a reply to: Out6of9Balance

Time as we perceive it is the movement of a body trough space.

I don't see it that way. As long as there is space there is time. Nothing is moving.

a reply to: Out6of9Balance

Indeed time and space doesn't need a body to exist.

I was talking about the bodys perception of time.

Sincerely No Clue

a reply to: NoClue

There needs to be space for there to be time. Where else would time exist?

a reply to: Out6of9Balance

Time is a mere concept to describe the movement of the body through space.

Space/time is the infinite structure of the universe.

It's unperceived without the body!

No Clue

a reply to: NoClue

Unperceived but therefore not nonexistent. Time still goes on when everybody on earth dies.

Perhaps we should redefine time because there is no necessity of a body for time to exist.

a reply to: Out6of9Balance

"Can we prove the future exists?"

Can you prove existence out with your own experience exists?

Past, present, future, depends on your location in the universe, end of the day it's subjective, and down to perspective, time that is.

a reply to: CthruU

The future only exists if live to see it

Seeing happens presently!

Seeing is immediate.

Stories about another time can only happen presently.

No story can speak about what is present..... so what actually is gets divided into before and after....and the dream of separation begins.

a reply to: CthruU

A pub in town has a sign above the bar:
FREE DRINKS FOR EVERYONE TOMORROW.

No one has ever received a free drink.

a reply to: Itisnowagain

Since the speed of light is finite it takes time for light from any object in the universe to reach us, even the Moon which is fairly close.

For things on Earth, the distances involved are very small compared to the speed of light and so we effectively see things instantly.

Nothing immediate about it all the same.

a reply to: andy06shake

When the eyes open how long does it take for them to be full of the present image?
Try it now...... shut your eyes and then open them.

a reply to: Itisnowagain

Takes time for light to affect the optic nerve and even more time for your brain to interpret the electrical signals produced.

Physics is Physics Itisnowagain.

Perspective presents the illusion of immediacy.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Itisnowagain

Takes time for light to affect the optic nerve and even more time for your brain to interpret the electrical signals produced.

Physics is Physics Itisnowagain.

Perspective presents the illusion of immediacy.

That is just a story.

In your actual direct experience, how long does it take when the eyes open for the entire image that is present to appear?

If there is an unexamined assumption of time and distance there will be an answer containing time and distance.

Forget physics....... look now.