Perhaps we can time travel when the present is a memory in the future.

a reply to: Itisnowagain

No its a very measurable thing, just ask any neuroscientist.

Forgetting physics is apt to get you dead Itisnowagain, cause and effect can be a real female dog in that department.

a reply to: Out6of9Balance

Can we prove the future exists?

Whoever controls the past, ultimately controls the future.

We may never know the answer to your question, that alone, is set in stone, the rest, is conjecture.

a reply to: andy06shake

Why trust somone else?

Look NOW at what is appearing.

a reply to: Itisnowagain

"Why trust somone else?"

At least you are accepting people are separate for once.

Appearances can be deceptive I'm afraid especially when your own interpretation and perspective are part of the equation, hence the reason we employ the use of scientific method and measurement to resolve the dilemma via other means.

a reply to: andy06shake

Get a measuring stick and measure from now to another time.
Do it now.

a reply to: Itisnowagain

Why? LoL

Time is a component quantity of various measurements Itisnowagain.

a reply to: andy06shake

Time has to be located before it can measured.

Time is a concept.

a reply to: Itisnowagain

Although the qualitative behavior of time as the fourth dimension is debatable.

The implications of that "concept" as you put it, in the world we exist, are very real.

Take for instance time in mathematical formulations of physical laws and theories, such as general relativity or string theory.

a reply to: Out6of9Balance

Can we prove the future exists?

No, we cannot.

The 'future' does not "exist". The future is a mental construct based on an assumption. The assumption, which is perfectly reasonable, is that time will continue to advance beyond where it is in this moment, and so we mentally construct what the 'future' will be like in some subsequent moment or time frame.

When we set the timer on the microwave oven to 3 minutes our expectation (based on an assumption) is, our frozen burrito will be cooked and we will be around to eat it. If a black hole gobbled up our galaxy (and our partially cooked burrito) 1.5 minutes later our assumption would be incorrect, and there would be no 'future' as we know it beyond that moment.

There's a bit of Relativity here as well. The 'future' depends on your relative viewpoint or perspective. To ET, in a different galaxy, he would see our galaxy vanish through his telescope, but as this happened it would then become his 'past'. He too might have an expectation/assumption that time will continue to advance beyond the present for him, but the only thing which are "real" are the present and the past. The future is just a concept, it is not a reality.

a reply to: ViXxeN

There is no 'control' of the past, and thus there is no control of the future.

The past is what it is. The future is just a random set of possibilities and permutations of what 'could' happen. An infinite number of variables contribute to the future. When these variables coalesce in the present the past is instantly created. The past cannot be altered, hence there is no control of it. It just is whatever it is.

The future cannot be controlled either. Probabilities can be increased or decreased, but an absolute outcome can never be predetermined with absolute certainty. Variables can be eliminated to steer the likely outcome of the future, but the future can not be controlled absolutely.

This concept leads us into some interesting territory where the future from one vantage point is the past from another vantage point. And here again, Relativity plays a role.

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

Think old Albert said, "The only reason for time is so that everything doesn't happen at once".

Or something along those lines.

Seems rather apt given the part perspective plays with regards to time.

a reply to: andy06shake

Time has to be located before it can be measured.

Have you located time?

Where and when?

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

Ripples caused in the present propagate in both directions!

If you tune in to the frequency of time/space you will feel things coming, and this is one of many variables that can change the future.

Sincerely No Clue

a reply to: Itisnowagain

Well, it's displayed on the bottom right-hand corner of the taskbar.

1:27 and tick-tocking away as we converse.

So job done there i suppose.

a reply to: andy06shake

When I was in college (and periodically ever since) I had a theory about this, that everything really did happen at once.

Picture a series of vertical lines, all evenly spaced. Along each of these lines every permutation of reality exists at some point along the line. An individual's human existence is a horizontal line (though it doesn't have to be perfectly horizontal) which crosses each one of these lines in a progressive fashion (this is time). The intersection of the horizontal and vertical lines is that person's reality at that moment in time. A different horizontal line is another person's existence, and as this different line intersects these same vertical lines, the intersections are their reality at the moment each line is intersected.

So, in essence, all realities exist at the same time. This might also help explain paranormal events and aberrations, when two horizontal lines cross each other in between two of the vertical lines, or two horizontal existences are very close in proximity to each other.

It's a bizarre concept, I know, but sometimes I wonder.

a reply to: Itisnowagain

a reply to: andy06shake

If I understand your point of views correctly I think you're both right!

One is talking from the emitter point of view the other from the receiver point of view!

Sincerely No Clue

Let's throw some geography into the mix to really confuse things!

If a person 'A' is standing on the International Date Line at Midnight in the Pacific, and person 'B' is standing on the Prime Meridian at Noon in Europe...is person 'A' in the future of person 'B'? Well, of course not, right?

They both exist at the same time, but at a different time reference. So the time reference for one person is different than another; consequently the past is a function of location, or is it?

a reply to: NoClue

It's perspective NoClue that's the ticket i suppose.

Different strokes for different folks just down to the view.

Itisnowagain will simply discount the science and experimentation into the field through.

Possibly because he assumes that seeing is believing, when the reality of the situation, for most intent and purpose, is so much more grandesque on a scale that humanity simply does not have the tools nor mental capacity to resolve nor understand.

But we are getting better at it, understanding that is, and that's plain science responsible there.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Itisnowagain

Well, it's displayed on the bottom right-hand corner of the taskbar.

1:27 and tick-tocking away as we

Those numbers are present now and if you keep looking at them they will change to another number now.....keep looking.

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

No it is now everywhere.....all the time.