Brexit- This is Embarrassing..

sigh...

I don't know about anyone else but am sitting here watching the Torry prime minster candidate panel just now and its quite frankly a national #in embarrassment watching five muppets who between them don't seem to share two braincells that seem to have any idea how to deal with Brexit. Really all that's happening is that we are going to be left with the same problem just with a different puppet trying to sell us as turd sandwich.

No-Deal will not pass parliament, make of that what you will but its not happen, we also won't get the deal through because of the Irish back stop thats not going away and the EU have said multiple times that they're not going to renegotiate unless there is significant change in the approach of the British. So we are screwed, best case this just get kicks down the road for a eternity and we have to suffer the consequences that come with the uncertainty that comes with that until the EU gets pissed at us and refuses to permit an extension.

With all this going on, the best this country seems to be able to come up with is a former coke-head, a man who run the health service into the ground another who is basically a British Trump, and two other babbling idiots. Its an embarkment. Listening to them all squabbling and talking utter crap.

I don't think anyone in the UK has any kind of faith in the politicians "leading" the UK right now.

Bring on Scottish independence, please!

a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

I did not even bother watching or listening to the carp that will fall out of each of their mouths, never has such a bunch of MP's had so little in common with the people they hope to represent, i have no clue which part of the country think Boris is an answer to anything



Shut parliment we will be better off on our own

a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

I didn't watch it because...


I don't have a vote and it's just an hour of Tory boys arguing.

We're screwed.

a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

am sitting here watching the Torry prime minster candidate panel

You must be on substances.

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
the best this country seems to be able to come up with is a former coke-head

You seem to have just described 6 of the 7.
time.com...



If one of them goes on a public rant about cunnilingus with his wife, then we will know that Rob Ford is making his return to this plane of existence known and intends to promote himself from simple mayor to ruler of a G20 nation.

a reply to: burdman30ott6

They’re down to 5 now

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin

I don't think anyone in the UK has any kind of faith in the politicians "leading" the UK right now.

Bring on Scottish independence, please!

I was in the UK recently and it was my first trip and I was there for just under 6 months..

Whilst London was a Million miles away from what I expected the rest of the country seemed pleasant and I am sure there is a thread in there somewhere but alas...


Anyway ref Brexit I just do not understand how they have buggered it up to the extent that they have, but then anyone that has done any Government work will know they are about as good as a Chocolate tea pot with commonsense and Logic.

It is fairly obvious from someone looking in that it has been designed to be as difficult and borderline impossible to get out when you have the people running the show as you have, you have to question their agenda. I can also honestly say that the EU has shown to be the Mafia entity I suspected it to be.

Looking at the UK governments handling of Brexit if this was to happen in a third world country the MSM would be calling it a banana republic.

I have friends that have got the hell out of the UK the last few years, most are in tech and have skills that travel well but the constant BS they have put up with esp in London means it is no longer even on the list of desirable places to raise a family, tax tax tax and first world prices for third world services with a escalating crime rate and absurd PC culture that restricts commonsense.

Ref Scotland it was certainly my highlight of my trip and somewhere I felt at home instantly...

originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

am sitting here watching the Torry prime minster candidate panel

You must be on substances.

They where not strong enough

a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

So the European union is kinda like the record of the month club.

You signed up in a weak moment.
Noticed all you get is crap.
Decided to cancel.
Found out you're stuck....

Since the people voted to leave and its not happening, it's time to drain the swamp...
Or is it moat in Britain?

a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin


Embarrassing it was!!!!

I wouldn't buy a used car or an insurance policy from any of them.

If I had a company I wouldn't employ ANY of them as representing it.


BRING ON NIGEL The EU wouldn't like that........ and we could hardly

do worse than the shower we have..... I dont believe there is a leaver

among them, even Boris Johnson didn't make up his mind till the last

minute he had articles both for and against and he used the last minute

because his ambition is to be PM and NOT to serve the people or carry

out the result of the referendum.........

a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

So how does this work there? Do they hold a vote and the top 5 advance to the next round, followed by another vote, trimming the herd, and just repeat until you're down to 1? Is there a threshold by which, if one candidate receives over 50% of the votes, they're automatically ceded the win and no further votes are needed, or does this process have to continue until you're down to a 2 horse race?

a reply to: burdman30ott6

Only the mother conservative MPs get to vote so a Candidate nominates themselves they have to have a certain level of support. Then the conservative MPs hold a series of votes and those with the least votes are eliminated. So for example in the first round I think they had to get 10 votes minimum to remain in contention. So they have a few of these votes each time eliminating more candidates or the candidates themselves chose to withdraw. They eventually whittle this down to 2 candidates and then all members of the Conservative party vote on it. So basically about 100k torries get to choose our next PM....

originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

So how does this work there? Do they hold a vote and the top 5 advance to the next round, followed by another vote, trimming the herd, and just repeat until you're down to 1? Is there a threshold by which, if one candidate receives over 50% of the votes, they're automatically ceded the win and no further votes are needed, or does this process have to continue until you're down to a 2 horse race?

Tory MPs do elimination style voting rounds till just 2 left. The wider Tory party membership then vote to select from the last 2.

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
a reply to: burdman30ott6

Only the mother conservative MPs get to vote so a Candidate nominates themselves they have to have a certain level of support. Then the conservative MPs hold a series of votes and those with the least votes are eliminated. So for example in the first round I think they had to get 10 votes minimum to remain in contention. So they have a few of these votes each time eliminating more candidates or the candidates themselves chose to withdraw. They eventually whittle this down to 2 candidates and then all members of the Conservative party vote on it. So basically about 100k torries get to choose our next PM....

Sorry for all the questions, but when you say "100k torries" do you mean registered voters, or is this some manner of delegate system where the party leadership provides 100k delegates that are supposed to vote in the manner the jurisdictions that sent them wished them to? I assume if your labor(?) party had won a majority in parliament, then they'd be doing this exact same process, only with their internal candidates for PM?

reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin
Politicians are marionettes....don’t expect Pinocchio.

a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

I never watched it, I was intending to watch it on iPlayer....but I might not bother now.

Just more of the same....I don't know why anyone is surprised.

Our party political system is broken and needs urgent and radical reform.

It seems inevitable that our next Prime Minister will be yet another Old Etonian privileged snob with absolutely nothing in common with the vast majority of this country and their cares and concerns.

To think that once one of these morons become PM the only realistic alternative is the totally unsuitable and hopefully unelectable Jeremy Corbyn.

How the # did it come to this?

Watched it.
The BBC as usual was a joke - utterly biased and desperately trying as many gotcha's as possible on Boris. He handled the ridiculous 'moderator' very well.
The idiots they chose for questions were even more of a joke.
Four of the five candidates have the right idea. No deal Brexit unless the EU caves on the backstop. The other muppet and EU stooge Rory Stewart came across as a complete tool.
Despite the rhetoric, MP's do not get a say if the new PM decides to take us out of the EU with no deal.

It's a deal without the backstop OR a no deal. That's it.

www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk...

a reply to: burdman30ott6

It’s kind of like a primary....

So all of the registered members of the Conservative party get to vote. Technically they are choosing their next leader and not the PM although the winner will also be PM. They are the party members, it’s kind of like being a registered republican or democrat. Once the MPs have it down to 2 candidates then all of the members of the Conservative party vote between the two. Whoever wins that vote becomes the new leader of the Conservative part and the new PM.

a reply to: Freeborn

Yeah I wouldn’t recommend even bothering to watch it, was embarrassing they just sat about talking utter #e.

a reply to: UKTruth

Despite the rhetoric, MP's do not get a say if the new PM decides to take us out of the EU with no deal.

Do you honestly think any of them have the balls, the strength of character or the willingness to do that?

Regardless of who it may be once the new PM is decided he will toe the line; derail and dilute Brexit.