Trying to resolve 9/11

a reply to: turbonium1

How do you know it was hit by real planes

What caused the outside inward damage. The fire ball equivalent of 10,000 gallons of jet fuel. There wasn’t explosives strapped to the ousted of the building and not 180 fifty five gallon drums full of jet fuel to simulate the fire ball. The damage was too large for a non exploding missile used as a kinetic weapon. The damage inconsistent for a explosion middle or missiles. Jet wrecked found in the street after the impacts. Recovered jet wreckage. Multiple people saw and attest to jets hitting the twin towers. The jet Impact videos from multiple angles. The sound heard / in the videos. Passenger / crew / hijacker DNA-remains recovered from WTC pile. Families had people aboard flight 11 and 175 that did not return home.

One should question. Only the biased or total idiots conclude jets did not hit the twin towers.

a reply to: turbonium1

You

Look at the videos when the plane first contacts the tower, frame by frame, as it goes into the building, until if finally disappears.

If true. Post screen shot of video. Cite and link to which video, which angle. The video compression, and frame rate.

And the frame rate is what? 24 frames per second. How far can an object traveling 500 miles an hour go on 1/24 of a second. The video is going to miss at least 10 feet of travel between frames. Then you have low resolution video at what, 480 dpi. Of video compressed how many times as it travels the internet.

a reply to: neutronflux

I hope your messing with me.

You are the one laughing abut it. I have made it clear in this thread that I am deadly serious about it. If I should happen to fall getting to the facts about it, so be it.

You are the one coming across like John Gross, head of the NIST investigation. 'I don't see any evidence' while getting paid $3M a year. The only reason I put up with all your ridiculous nonsense was a dream one night where talking to Donald Trump in about 9/11 is the only motivation i have for putting up with your garbage. I don't get all this wacky politics but it is something I can do.

You are more of a threat to a free and just society than Al Cadia every was. Great, all the war stories sold some bombs. All you can do is rubbish Richard Gage while never addressing any of the facts he presents. No evidence of explosives while it took 3 months for the fires to eventually burn themselves out. No evidence of explosives while Dr jones determined 10 ton of steel micro spheres in the dust, some results do vary, there was a lot of it. All you have is some welding and grinding going on.

I am not messing with you, just calling it as it is. It looks ugly and you do as well.

a reply to: kwakakev

You

You are the one coming across like John Gross, head of the NIST investigation

Well. Good thing I directly invoke the video evidence.



And I can reference the video evidence while you try to change the subject.

Now, is the below false.. if you think it is, prove it.

After the planes struck the buildings, but before the buildings collapsed, the cores of both towers consisted of three distinct sections. Above and below the impact floors, the cores consisted of what were essentially two rigid boxes; the steel in these sections was undamaged and had undergone no significant heating. The section between them, however, had sustained significant damage and, though they were not hot enough to melt it, the fires were weakening the structural steel.

As a result, the core columns were slowly being crushed, sustaining plastic and creep deformation from the weight of floors above. As the top section tried to move downward, however, the hat truss redistributed the load to the perimeter columns. Meanwhile, the perimeter columns and floors were also being weakened by the heat of the fires, and as the floors began to sag they pulled the exterior walls inwards. "The ensuing loss in vertical load-carrying capacity was confined to a few storeys but extended over the entire cross section of each tower."[26] In the case of 2 WTC, the eastern face finally buckled, transferring its loads back to the failing core through the hat truss and initiating the collapse. Later, the south wall of 1 WTC buckled in the same way, and with similar consequences.[27]

en.m.wikipedia.org...

Sorry, when it comes to the truth movement fantasy the towers were brought down by planted pyrotechnics, it’s a blatant lie at this point.

When it comes to planted WTC CD, you have invested almost twenty years in a lie.

The towers collapsed because the buildings were built too cheap, minimized concrete usage beyond normal practice, had longer floor span with no mid length support beyond normal practice, damaged fire insulation, and fire related failures.

a reply to: neutronflux

Well. Good thing I directly invoke the video evidence.

Video evidence? One frame taken out of context...

Yeah, watch the whole video around that scene. Still ugly.

a reply to: neutronflux

Like what is wrong with you? You have no shame. I call you worst than Al Ciadia and you don't care, just more of the self, no logic nonsense trying to justify yourself in your own deluded world. You arguments are not convincing anyone on these boards anymore.

It is a sad thing to see just how warped ones mind can get. I know the trauma of 9/11 has affected the world. You are not the only one suffering. As you go to sleep each night telling yourself all those sweet lies, reality ain't getting any better.

What kind of world do you really want? Fantasy is nice for a while. Sooner or later reality does hit.

originally posted by: kwakakev
a reply to: neutronflux

Like what is wrong with you? You have no shame. I call you worst than Al Ciadia and you don't care, just more of the self, no logic nonsense trying to justify yourself in your own deluded world. You arguments are not convincing anyone on these boards anymore.

It is a sad thing to see just how warped ones mind can get. I know the trauma of 9/11 has affected the world. You are not the only one suffering. As you go to sleep each night telling yourself all those sweet lies, reality ain't getting any better.

What kind of world do you really want? Fantasy is nice for a while. Sooner or later reality does hit.

What does any of that have to do with this being true.

After the planes struck the buildings, but before the buildings collapsed, the cores of both towers consisted of three distinct sections. Above and below the impact floors, the cores consisted of what were essentially two rigid boxes; the steel in these sections was undamaged and had undergone no significant heating. The section between them, however, had sustained significant damage and, though they were not hot enough to melt it, the fires were weakening the structural steel.

As a result, the core columns were slowly being crushed, sustaining plastic and creep deformation from the weight of floors above. As the top section tried to move downward, however, the hat truss redistributed the load to the perimeter columns. Meanwhile, the perimeter columns and floors were also being weakened by the heat of the fires, and as the floors began to sag they pulled the exterior walls inwards. "The ensuing loss in vertical load-carrying capacity was confined to a few storeys but extended over the entire cross section of each tower."[26] In the case of 2 WTC, the eastern face finally buckled, transferring its loads back to the failing core through the hat truss and initiating the collapse. Later, the south wall of 1 WTC buckled in the same way, and with similar consequences.[27]

en.m.wikipedia.org...

originally posted by: kwakakev
a reply to: neutronflux

Well. Good thing I directly invoke the video evidence.

Video evidence? One frame taken out of context...

Yeah, watch the whole video around that scene. Still ugly.

The context has been quoted and stated scores of times.

Richard Gage claimed the towers fell through the path of greatest resistance which is a blatant falsehood at this point

The core fell last. After having the floor system providing lateral support sheared away. The floor connections were sheared from overloading, or bent down.

There is no indication of any structural members being cut by planted pyrotechnics. And the core was not cut floor by floor as claimed by the truth movement to achieve the witnesses collapse duration. Where long lengths of core columns remained standing for whole seconds after the complete collapse And removal of the floor system.

a reply to: kwakakev

Again. The whole CD fantasy for the towers is literally dead on arrival.

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The jets hit the towers, removed structural supports. Cut electric cables, pipes, dislodged insulation, breached elevator shafts, cut elevator cables, and disrupted building services.

The Twin Towers fell into the structure of WTC 7. Damaging WTC 7.

Each building had unchecked and wide spread fires.

The wiring, batteries, and electronics needed for your fantasy CD would not have survived these fires.

The jet impacts would have dislodged charges in your fantasy, and could have busted open and spread the explosives.

The actual CD systems in your fantasy would not have maintained their integrity, notice I posted SYSTEMS, to actuate to initiate the collapse of WTC 1 and 2 as recorded on video from multiple angles.

The CD narrative is dead on arrival.

a reply to: neutronflux

The actual CD systems in your fantasy would not have maintained their integrity, notice I posted SYSTEMS, to actuate to initiate the collapse of WTC 1 and 2 as recorded on video from multiple angles.

Re-post SYSTEMS would you.

a reply to: democracydemo

So, no proof the twin towers had their cores cuts. Got it.

a reply to: neutronflux

You posted this "SYSTEMS", didn't you? I just can't find it.
Re-post to review.

originally posted by: democracydemo
a reply to: neutronflux

You posted this "SYSTEMS", didn't you? I just can't find it.
Re-post to review.

Can you quote what your referring to.

I have posted repeatedly CD systems would not have survived the jet impacts. Is that false.

a reply to: democracydemo

Like what I posted in this post:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

posted on Feb, 16 2020 @ 07:00

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: MoonMine

—Snip—

Again. CD systems would not have survived the jet impacts and fires to initiate collapse of the twin towers as attested to by video evidence.

a reply to: democracydemo

You want to imply any other BS. Or you want to address the actual collapse initiation of WTC 1 and WTC 2.

a reply to: neutronflux

Imply BS? funny you should ask, actual collapse initiation of WTC2 in sound and video

a reply to: democracydemo

What does the expected sounds of a building fire have to do with:

The jets hit the towers, removed structural supports. Cut electric cables, pipes, dislodged insulation, breached elevator shafts, cut elevator cables, and disrupted building services.

The Twin Towers fell into the structure of WTC 7. Damaging WTC 7.

Each building had unchecked and wide spread fires.

The wiring, batteries, and electronics needed for your fantasy CD would not have survived these fires.

The jet impacts would have dislodged charges in your fantasy, and could have busted open and spread the explosives.

The actual CD systems in your fantasy would not have maintained their integrity, notice I posted SYSTEMS, to actuate to initiate the collapse of WTC 1 and 2 as recorded on video from multiple angles.

The CD narrative is dead on arrival.

Or answering if this is true:

After the planes struck the buildings, but before the buildings collapsed, the cores of both towers consisted of three distinct sections. Above and below the impact floors, the cores consisted of what were essentially two rigid boxes; the steel in these sections was undamaged and had undergone no significant heating. The section between them, however, had sustained significant damage and, though they were not hot enough to melt it, the fires were weakening the structural steel.

As a result, the core columns were slowly being crushed, sustaining plastic and creep deformation from the weight of floors above. As the top section tried to move downward, however, the hat truss redistributed the load to the perimeter columns. Meanwhile, the perimeter columns and floors were also being weakened by the heat of the fires, and as the floors began to sag they pulled the exterior walls inwards. "The ensuing loss in vertical load-carrying capacity was confined to a few storeys but extended over the entire cross section of each tower."[26] In the case of 2 WTC, the eastern face finally buckled, transferring its loads back to the failing core through the hat truss and initiating the collapse. Later, the south wall of 1 WTC buckled in the same way, and with similar consequences.[27]

en.m.wikipedia.org...

a reply to: democracydemo
Wiki has resolved 911.......did you not know???

Thread closed!!!

a reply to: Itisnowagain

If this is not true.

After the planes struck the buildings, but before the buildings collapsed, the cores of both towers consisted of three distinct sections. Above and below the impact floors, the cores consisted of what were essentially two rigid boxes; the steel in these sections was undamaged and had undergone no significant heating. The section between them, however, had sustained significant damage and, though they were not hot enough to melt it, the fires were weakening the structural steel.

As a result, the core columns were slowly being crushed, sustaining plastic and creep deformation from the weight of floors above. As the top section tried to move downward, however, the hat truss redistributed the load to the perimeter columns. Meanwhile, the perimeter columns and floors were also being weakened by the heat of the fires, and as the floors began to sag they pulled the exterior walls inwards. "The ensuing loss in vertical load-carrying capacity was confined to a few storeys but extended over the entire cross section of each tower."[26] In the case of 2 WTC, the eastern face finally buckled, transferring its loads back to the failing core through the hat truss and initiating the collapse. Later, the south wall of 1 WTC buckled in the same way, and with similar consequences.[27]

en.m.wikipedia.org...

Cite a more detailed explanation of the collapse initiation of WTC 1 and 2 that is supported by the video and seismic evidence. Then update the Wiki Page citing that reference.

a reply to: neutronflux
Is this false:

I said........wiki has resolved 911.