Atlantis has been discovered?!

originally posted by: All Seeing Eye


People would be surprised to learn that all the planet was not submerged under water at the same time. It was more of a rolling flood with the water that was already here. This is why, after a time, the waters subsided back to where it had come from.

Yeah. That's a part of the physics of tidal waves that isn't intuitive, but definitely true. If you have a giant tidal wave moving at, say 50 mph, well the world is about 27,000 miles around, right? It will take it a while to move over that distance.

So yeah. If you've got a big bulge of water, from perhaps a melting glacier, it might might take a few hours from the moment the front of that bulge reaches you, before the rear of the bulge passes.

If an asteroid hit the Laurentide Ice Sheet during the Ice age, in some parts that sheet was 5 miles tall. And a hard impact from a big meteor would release enough heat to immediately melt all the surrounding ice.

Even the destruction of the Ringed City was not perfect, but then again, its goal was to destroy the Home of Poseidon, everything else was secondary. and this is why so many things in the area still exist today.

The reason for the great flood, again, was to set mankind back to a state of ignorance before the gods intervened and gave us knowledge. But even at this it really makes no sense. Could they not have controlled mankind and its progression? Something else must have been at play. Its almost as if some other force or thing was forcing their hand. Maybe even making a ultimatum to the gods. I see their attitude as a child who is told not to play with a certain toy, in a fit of childish rage they proclaim "Fine" as they throw the toy to the ground in a profound temper tantrum.

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Sometimes I think maybe some of our ancestors had fully discovered technology, as some people think and/or dream. Maybe they were traveling through space, and did some things that upset the other alien cultures out there?

Tower of Babel could be an allegorical way of saying that some humans had figured out how to leave the planet, and got cocky and thought they would go out there and conquer.

So, in the interests of preserving genetic diversity, they don't want to wipe out our whole species, but realize we can't be trusted in space. So they simply wipe out the society that has the technology.

a reply to: bloodymarvelous

Sometimes I think maybe some of our ancestors had fully discovered technology, as some people think and/or dream. Maybe they were traveling through space, and did some things that upset the other alien cultures out there?

Tower of Babel could be an allegorical way of saying that some humans had figured out how to leave the planet, and got cocky and thought they would go out there and conquer.

So, in the interests of preserving genetic diversity, they don't want to wipe out our whole species, but realize we can't be trusted in space. So they simply wipe out the society that has the technology.

Your ideology is sound, but does not take into account all the evidence. It takes us to a intellectual precipice that sits on the very edge of what is know as the rabbits hole. Most for fear of the unknown will venture no further. And the majority of those who take the dive will become lost along the way by ideologies of one sort or another, disinformation and false facts. This intellectual hole is divided down its depth, one side purely physical that is ruled by sight and real evidence. the other side is of the spirit where imagination and intuition rule. As you venture down this hole the two sides start to rotate, spin, where at the bottom they join into one. If one were to Travers the entire length they might come to the realization that they themselves were far more than what they were previously allowed to believe. And at this point they may break free of the Matrix of Lies.

Yes, humanity is a duality, not strictly flesh, and not strictly spirit, but a combination, in the balance.

So, in the interests of preserving genetic diversity, they don't want to wipe out our whole species, but realize we can't be trusted in space. So they simply wipe out the society that has the technology.

There are two key points you bring up. "They", and the power to "wipe out",

"They" can not trust us because?

"They" can control virtually everything on this planet, the weather, animal populations, hell, even politics via their bloodlines. But the one thing they can not, and never will control, is the human spirit. And the nature of that spirit is to be, free and independent. The complete opposite of what "They" want, demand. They can not trust us to bow down to them, as gods. So they hide themselves, in shame.

Tower of Babel could be an allegorical way of saying that some humans had figured out how to leave the planet, and got cocky and thought they would go out there and conquer.

Conquer who, what? If you go back and investigate the ancient wars it wasn't the little guys who started it. It was always the gods, demi gods, and their kings who "Conquered". The human beings were always the pawns used in battle. The true nature of the human spirit is reflected in

The Story of the WWI Christmas Truce

They fear the reflection of themselves. They, are the true "conquerors", not us. In truth, they fear we might unite, and fight for our freedom, from their domination, ownership, as did the Igigi. All we really want is to explore and gain knowledge.

If we are to die anyways in a great reset (flood, famin, great war, planetary destruction), then, we should fight the real enemy. After all, spiritually, we have nothing to loose. They leave us no choice. And, they must know this.

Yea, it was just a series of meteorites that triggered the great flood, but not as much destructive force as one in particular.

The main question seems to center around how much water was available during the African Humid period. Many are now coming to the conclusion that the original estimates are lacking. There may have been more, far more water present.

I have shown that the communities that ring the northern ridge of the Aoukar or Erg Aoukar (Arabic: عوكر‎) geological depression, must have been filled at one time, that would have supported those population..



Academia admits there was a large inland sea to the north named Maghrb inland sea.



This is what Academia claims about the area.

Drainage The drainage system is characterized by a lack of pattern. Normal drainage is limited to inland southwestern Mauritania, where tributaries of the Sénégal River, which forms the frontier between Mauritania and Senegal, flow southward and are subject to ephemeral flooding in summer. In the greater part of the country, however, the plateaus are cut into by wadis (dry riverbeds), where the rare floods that occur dissipate their waters into a few permanent drainage basins called guelt (singular guelta). In the wastes of the north and the east, precipitation is so rare and slight that there is practically no runoff.

Translated it means it is flat with depressions that can hold a great deal of water, before runoff can occur.

I decided to look at the topography to find those depressions, thanks to Mike27. I used the Aoukar Depression as a guide for the level at which the water would naturally reach before it would run off into rivers, etc. Putting the water level at the known would project the possible water levels in the region. The results are very interesting.

I have 3 images that depict possible water levels from the light rains to hurricane amounts.

Light rains



Medium Rains



Heavy rains.




Of course this depends on the nature and size of the rivers that would naturally run when the table top depressions became full. And, if there were any earthworks, dykes, channels, man may have been built. At its fullest you will note that the Richat and the surrounding area, become, a island, in a inland sea. And anyone viewing from the east might see it as a island in the Atlantic.

I am not able to separate the ocean water from the raised water inland so please disregard the elevated water levels on the coastlines. This inland sea would have followed river courses to the ocean which do show up on radar images.

As a side note, I have found no ruins or road sections in the blue areas.

originally posted by: All Seeing Eye

So, in the interests of preserving genetic diversity, they don't want to wipe out our whole species, but realize we can't be trusted in space. So they simply wipe out the society that has the technology.

There are two key points you bring up. "They", and the power to "wipe out",

"They" can not trust us because?

"They" can control virtually everything on this planet, the weather, animal populations, hell, even politics via their bloodlines. But the one thing they can not, and never will control, is the human spirit. And the nature of that spirit is to be, free and independent. The complete opposite of what "They" want, demand. They can not trust us to bow down to them, as gods. So they hide themselves, in shame.

My view in alien psychology is strongly influenced by the writings of a fellow named Charlie C Hall. The two groups he claims to have interacted with were the Grays, and what he called "Tall White" aliens.

Both were herbivores. And they had wiped out every animal on their planet that they considered to pose a danger to them or their children.

For them, the idea of, for example : preserving wolves, was unthinkable. Or even when a human stands next to a horse, leading it by its bridle, they couldn't comprehend the human feeling certain that such a large animal wouldn't attack them, and not being afraid to approach it.

He also mentioned that the grays were the dominant alien in our area of outer space.



My point is: no matter how powerless we get, they may still fear us. Just because their mind is built that way. It would also explain why they seem kind of demonic to us. Why the grays abduct and terrorize people, or experiment on them. Perhaps trying to figure out their psychological limits.

Tower of Babel could be an allegorical way of saying that some humans had figured out how to leave the planet, and got cocky and thought they would go out there and conquer.

Conquer who, what? If you go back and investigate the ancient wars it wasn't the little guys who started it. It was always the gods, demi gods, and their kings who "Conquered". The human beings were always the pawns used in battle. The true nature of the human spirit is reflected in

Think how frightening it is for the first world nations on Earth, when a country like North Korea develops nuclear weapons.

Humans now have nuclear weapons, but we still haven't figured out how to travel faster than light. OK. But how close are we to figuring it out? We don't know how close we are. But.... they do know how close we are. They know exactly how close we are.

Because they remember what physics breakthroughs had to happen in order to get from where we are in understanding physics, to get to where they now are. They probably had a similar journey of their own at one point.

If, in their history, discovery of the atom was only 100 years prior to discovery of Faster than Light travel, then they would have to assume that humanity is due to figure it out any time now.

If humanity possessed both

A: Nuclear weapons. -Check

and

B: A way to deliver them to an alien's planet - perhaps nearer around the corner than we think.

If those two things are present, then they start having to try to guess what our mentality considers to be cause for nuclear war. They don't want to guess!!!! They would rather know we won't.

The Story of the WWI Christmas Truce

They fear the reflection of themselves. They, are the true "conquerors", not us. In truth, they fear we might unite, and fight for our freedom, from their domination, ownership, as did the Igigi. All we really want is to explore and gain knowledge.

If we are to die anyways in a great reset (flood, famin, great war, planetary destruction), then, we should fight the real enemy. After all, spiritually, we have nothing to loose. They leave us no choice. And, they must know this.

Yea, it was just a series of meteorites that triggered the great flood, but not as much destructive force as one in particular.

Sounds a lot like the way people in Afghanistan view America.

a reply to: bloodymarvelous

If those two things are present, then they start having to try to guess what our mentality considers to be cause for nuclear war. They don't want to guess!!!! They would rather know we won't.

And in that, lays the secret. They don't have to guess at what we think, they already know what we think, because they, through their proxy agents and nightly visitations, put it there. There is no guess work involved. If a weapon system is allowed to come into existence it is with the intention that it be used against ourselves, with no thought to use it against them, because they do not allow any thought that "They" may be real, again via their proxy agents in Academia, the initiate gate keepers, my term, lunatics.

There is only one choice, and one alone. Are they real, or are they not. If they are real, our entire reality is false. If they are not, our society deserves to be annihilated.

Reverse psychology applied.



Its just a silly song, right? Or is it their way of telling us, and insulting our intelligence at the same time. Only one way they inject thought into our conciseness.

if in doubt research the moon. But I cover this subject in another thread. If you wish you can challenge me there.

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a reply to: bloodymarvelous

Pink floyd told us what they control. Eclipsing the Sun. Was the person that wrote the lyrics, a Lunatic? Was he a "initiate"?

EVERYTHING!

a reply to: All Seeing Eye

Going back to the water levels and amounts in the area. The most ancient ruins as dated by "Academia" are roughly 4000bc. And it is generally accepted the end of the African Humid period was roughly 3500bc. It is of interest that all of the ruins I have discovered are on high ground, some on isolated raised features that could only be considered islands during the wet times. This would indicate there actually was large amounts of water in the region. And again, I have found no ruins in the suspected (Blue) water areas.

Below is a enlarged view of the areas with suspected "Islands" with ruins on them. Again Blue hash marks are ancient ruins. Red circles are islands with ruins on the tops.



This evidence point to a rather large inland sea, prior to 3500bc.

I'd say that's pretty strong stochastic evidence, if the map you are using is basing the water vs. land on something consistent, like elevation.

Also, looking at that map, "Libya" looks like it was smaller then than it is today. Although "Asia" may have been as big as ever.

If the Island of Atlantis was supposed to be bigger than "Libya and Asia combined", then are we comparing Atlantis then, with Libya of the same era? Or are we comparing Atlantis then, with Libya of today's era?

originally posted by: bloodymarvelous
I'd say that's pretty strong stochastic evidence, if the map you are using is basing the water vs. land on something consistent, like elevation.

Also, looking at that map, "Libya" looks like it was smaller then than it is today. Although "Asia" may have been as big as ever.

If the Island of Atlantis was supposed to be bigger than "Libya and Asia combined", then are we comparing Atlantis then, with Libya of the same era? Or are we comparing Atlantis then, with Libya of today's era?

The map is based on a present day topography map. I adjusted the water levels to where there would be water next to the settlements along the Northern Rim of the Aoukar Depression. But to be honest, the settlements also run on the East and west rims as well, which would indicate the depression was completely full when the area was occupied. When I did that the settlements on the raised areas in Mali, became islands. All the other depressions filled in at the same time, as water has the tendency to seek its own level.

And as Academia points out, the runoff in those areas is poor, to none, which means the area has great capacity to retain, hold water.

Any comparison to size must be held to the known world of "Those Days". And the boundaries of those days, not today. So, If the water was in abundance in those days, as you can see by the map, Atlantis could have been considered a large Island itself.

As the waters dried up, it would be the lowest point in the individual depressions to be the last holder of water, and there could have been many small, lakes, to ponds, to water holes spread around, to dry up completely over time. This would have not happened over night, but rather months to years.

So I disagree with Jimmy Bright insight on that point of Raised or lowered continent. It could hold vast amounts of water on its own.

Much of the swiping sands could actually come from this inland sea's beds. Ocean sands must come from another source.

originally posted by: bloodymarvelous
I'd say that's pretty strong stochastic evidence, if the map you are using is basing the water vs. land on something consistent, like elevation.

Also, looking at that map, "Libya" looks like it was smaller then than it is today. Although "Asia" may have been as big as ever.

If the Island of Atlantis was supposed to be bigger than "Libya and Asia combined", then are we comparing Atlantis then, with Libya of the same era? Or are we comparing Atlantis then, with Libya of today's era?

This map comes to us from Wells, Edward, 1667-1727.

You might note here that Mauritania was much larger than today, actually going up to the Mediterranean and eastward towards Libya. You might also note Libya and Egypt are much smaller than today. Who knows what the boundaries were in 4000bc?



Also, maps of the same time period also show scattered small lakes or ponds in the area.

L'Isle, Guillaume de, 1675-1726

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With the discovery of an Atlantean Princess at the site with the Ancient Egyptian Amarna Artifacts, It raises all kinds of important questions about humanity's early history.

It strongly suggests that this unusual Amarna lineage may have been a Heritage of Blood transferred down from the Royal Adepts of Atlantis and is linked with legends of their advanced spiritual understanding and extraordinary psychic abilities.

Discovery of Ancient Artifacts dated to 10,000 B.C. show Nefertiti’s deep connection to Atlantis

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New explosive archaeological discovery shows Egyptian Royal Pharaoh Akhenaten and Queen Nefertiti deep connection to the lost continent of Atlantis in Ancient Artifacts dated to 10,000 B.C.!

​Ancient Egyptian Pyramid Expert Dr. Carmen Boulter explains that her new and historic discoveries at a remote site in Turkey of an extensive collection of Ancient Egyptian artifacts reveal a connection to the Lost Continent of Atlantis.
The evidence of an Atlantean Princess found among the ruins of the Secret Tomb opens up all kinds of questions for our dating of Ancient Egyptian as well as Atlantean history. As Dr.Boulter explains, 'this is history in the making and the stunning discovery will forever change the story of early humanity and the rise of civilization!'

Atlantis, often scorned by academics as a myth, was said by the Greek Philosopher Plato to have been an advanced culture located somewhere in the Atlantic that sank into the ocean due to its spiritual demise.

A great deal of intrigue, controversy and excitement hangs over these amazing findings that were excavated in Turkey inside a concealed mountain vault tomb.

From what I have gathered, the site is now locked down. And Sadly, Dr. Carmen Boulter, I believe, has passed away. A great loss to mankind.

Discovery of Ancient Artifacts dated to 10,000 B.C. show Nefertiti’s deep connection to Atlantis

I suspect Old Egypt was actually a "allotment" of Atlantis. And, just before the destruction many of the Royals had evacuated to Other regions, Turkey, Egypt, and possibly even the Grand Canyon.



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The tomb seems to be located in Antalya, Turkey. The ones who found it believe it is Lycian, or has to do with that culture, and although the evidence for this date is far from overwhelming: they set its date at 400 BC.

I can't figure out what they found inside. They say it was already looted, but I hope they'll still find something interesting.

originally posted by: All Seeing Eye
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There was a classical age tomb found and someone then made up a bunch of stuff based on it.

a reply to: All Seeing Eye
Carmen Boulter had a PhD in Education.
Look to Heinlein to find out what that means.
She had exactly ZERO training in archaeology and appeared to have possessed the same amount of knowledge about ancient Egypt.

Harte

originally posted by: All Seeing Eye
This map comes to us from Wells, Edward, 1667-1727.

You might note here that Mauritania was much larger than today, actually going up to the Mediterranean and eastward towards Libya. You might also note Libya and Egypt are much smaller than today. Who knows what the boundaries were in 4000bc?

What makes you think there were borders to Mauritania in 4,000 BC?

Harte

originally posted by: Harte

originally posted by: All Seeing Eye
This map comes to us from Wells, Edward, 1667-1727.

You might note here that Mauritania was much larger than today, actually going up to the Mediterranean and eastward towards Libya. You might also note Libya and Egypt are much smaller than today. Who knows what the boundaries were in 4000bc?

What makes you think there were borders to Mauritania in 4,000 BC?

Harte

Allotments usually do.

Last I heard, they found Atlantis next to Cuba.

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But, to date, nothing definitive.

That is all

originally posted by: yaquii
Last I heard, they found Atlantis next to Cuba.

vifreepress.com...

But, to date, nothing definitive.

That is all

That 'discovery' was made twenty years ago - came to be nothing. A made up image of it is popular among the fringe

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Which is based on this sonar image

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its the upper left image.

Zilch

originally posted by: All Seeing Eye

originally posted by: Harte

originally posted by: All Seeing Eye
This map comes to us from Wells, Edward, 1667-1727.

You might note here that Mauritania was much larger than today, actually going up to the Mediterranean and eastward towards Libya. You might also note Libya and Egypt are much smaller than today. Who knows what the boundaries were in 4000bc?

What makes you think there were borders to Mauritania in 4,000 BC?

Harte

Allotments usually do.

So you conceded your 'border' idea is a no go then?

originally posted by: All Seeing Eye
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Whoa nellie! That's ... incredibly bad nonsense right there.

* the photo at the top of the article? That's a group of movie props that someone tried to pass off (at various times) as a "new tomb found" (the video would fool people who aren't familiar with Egyptian tombs... if you know anything about the ancient Egyptian burial practices the whole scene is a huge laugh). Nefertiti was not buried in Tut's tomb (there's a number of reasons why), and they're pretending those are "Amarna artifacts." It all probably looks really convincing if you've never actually studied what they produced at Amarna or read anything that Akhenaten actually wrote.

With the discovery of an Atlantean Princess at the site with the Ancient Egyptian Amarna Artifacts, It raises all kinds of important questions about humanity's early history.

Actually, what it raises is the question of "why are they using known items to fabricate a story and why do they think that making up stuff about real discoveries is the right thing to do?"

It strongly suggests that this unusual Amarna lineage may have been a Heritage of Blood transferred down from the Royal Adepts of Atlantis and is linked with legends of their advanced spiritual understanding and extraordinary psychic abilities.

The idea of "Royal Adepts" is not historical. It's from the past 20 years. The "Legends of their advanced spiritual understanding and extraordinary psychic abilities" is a legend that comes from 1800 (and none of these things about Atlantis were "known" before Madame Blavatsky)

Now... you don't have to believe me. Go to Archive.org and read (free) the old books on Atlantis to see what people believed about it before 1900.

​Ancient Egyptian Pyramid Expert Dr. Carmen Boulter

Let's reframe that to "self-proclaimed expert." I doubt that she could tell you anything about the pyramid of Amenenhat or the queens' pyramids at Giza or the pyramid field at Saqqara, etc. In fact, I'd bet that she can't even tell you anything about the pyramid of Menkaure. which is one of the Gizamids.

explains that her new and historic discoveries at a remote site in Turkey of an extensive collection of Ancient Egyptian artifacts reveal a connection to the Lost Continent of Atlantis.

She didn't excavate the site. Her claims about it are wrong.

I've seen her videos and it's clear that she can't even read hieroglyphs.

From what I have gathered, the site is now locked down.

Most archaeological sites are not open to the public if there's ongoing research. They don't want tourists making videos all over the spot or picking up "stuff" to take home.

I suspect Old Egypt was actually a "allotment" of Atlantis. And, just before the destruction many of the Royals had evacuated to Other regions, Turkey, Egypt, and possibly even the Grand Canyon.

I think you should spend more time reading papers about what people have found. Not the easy-to-read and usually incorrect news stories, but the real excavation reports and museum catalogs and museum publications about these items. Your eye will then be able to spot what a real Egyptian artifact/hieroglyph looks like.

I'd also recommend not watching videos, but reading. You can more easily fact-check from printed material than you can from a video. With all the lame attempts to reconstruct history out there, your fact-checking will take less time if you've got names and dates clearly presented in text rather than stopping and starting videos to find the name of a site and when it's supposed to have existed.