Assange sentenced to 50 weeks in UK prison

a reply to: paraphi

I don't think he'll be executed as that fear could be laid to rest with a US guarantee but a long term jail sentence in the US is something to be afraid of. He might face a limited charge but said charge could lead to incarceration in one of those nightmare US prisons, and given that he has upset many in the US establishment who knows what sort of treatment he will receive.

originally posted by: paraphi
Isn't the central tenent of the current US extradition case based around Assanges assistance given to Chelsea Manning, in her attempt to hack,

Almost right, but you got the name and pronoun wrong... Assange was helping Bradley Manning, in his attempt to hack...

a reply to: Jay-morris

People who believe in the rule of law are haters? OK

This topic has nothing to do with Iraq or Libya, we are discussing Assange. Changing the subject is an odd debate tactic.

originally posted by: Blaine91555
a reply to: Jay-morris

People who believe in the rule of law are haters? OK

This topic has nothing to do with Iraq or Libya, we are discussing Assange. Changing the subject is an odd debate tactic.

It means everything about this subject. You keep on hammering about the "rule of law" when clearly that does not imply everyone, esp the powerful!

Did you kick up a fuss about these sociopaths getting away with the deaths of millions of innocent men, women and children, like you are doing with Assange?

Can you see the problem here? If not, then you never will.

a reply to: Jay-morris

What do you think about today's happenings with the Spanish Journalist being arrested? Suddenly Assange and Wikileaks are all for the rule of law to prevent the video's of Assange's behavior in the embassy from being released to the media. What do they have to hide do you suppose?

I'm going to stay on topic.

Link

The arrests were triggered by a complaint filed by Assange himself at a Madrid court ..

..Assange’s criminal complaint is also aimed at the embassy personnel and members of the security firm Promsecurity,

The rule of law is just fine when it benefits him, but when it's aimed at him he hides in an embassy.

They hid him out for all those years and now he's out to get them.

originally posted by: Blaine91555
a reply to: Jay-morris

What do you think about today's happenings with the Spanish Journalist being arrested? Suddenly Assange and Wikileaks are all for the rule of law to prevent the video's of Assange's behavior in the embassy from being released to the media. What do they have to hide do you suppose?

I'm going to stay on topic.

Until you, me, or anyone else sees the video, or any other proof, then you cannot say it's fact, even if you would love it to be true because of your obvious hate for the guy.

Funny how all this comes out when their new leader wanted nothing to do with Assange (for obvious reasons) and wanted him out there as quickly as possible. And you are straight away believing this without any proof?

Says a lot!

originally posted by: Blaine91555
Link

The arrests were triggered by a complaint filed by Assange himself at a Madrid court ..

..Assange’s criminal complaint is also aimed at the embassy personnel and members of the security firm Promsecurity,

The rule of law is just fine when it benefits him, but when it's aimed at him he hides in an embassy.

They hid him out for all those years and now he's out to get them.

And you dodged my question. Should the people responsible for Iraq and Libya be punished? Or do you think they should not be because it's the good old west! And they are above any law!

a reply to: Jay-morris

Iraq and Libya are off topic. I'm just staying on topic. You should start another thread if you want to change the topic.

I am pointing out that Assange, the actual topic, is for the law when it benefits him and when it goes against him he hides from it. A fact as far as I can see.

a reply to: Jay-morris

When the childish name calling starts, I'm gone.

originally posted by: Jay-morris
So, let me get this straight. You think he should face justice in the same country that got away with war crimes, and the deaths of millions of people for over two decades.

I'm all for Assange facing the justice he managed to evade in Sweden.

originally posted by: Blaine91555
a reply to: Jay-morris

When the childish name calling starts, I'm gone.

No, you just cannot answer a simple question!

I cannot stand people who at at their leaders as mini Gods! One of the reasons why this world is such a messed up place!

originally posted by: paraphi

originally posted by: Jay-morris
So, let me get this straight. You think he should face justice in the same country that got away with war crimes, and the deaths of millions of people for over two decades.

I'm all for Assange facing the justice he managed to evade in Sweden.

I am sorry, you cannot be taken seriosly! It was only a few weeks ago you were saying that he should be a man and face charges in America! Anything negative about Assange, you are going to agree with or believe!

You were one of the ones who said Assange was talking rubbish about being in the embassy because he was worried he will be extradited to the US.
Now we know you were wrong, and he was right, so then you change it and say he should be a man about it!

You are just like the poster above, a hypocrite! You talk about justice but ignore the fact that war criminals got away with being responsible for the deaths of millions of men, women and children. The very same power that you are telling Assange to be a man and go there to face his crimes!

Unbelievable!

originally posted by: Jay-morris
I am sorry, you cannot be taken seriosly! It was only a few weeks ago you were saying that he should be a man and face charges in America! Anything negative about Assange, you are going to agree with or believe!

Cheer up mate, and please don't apologise.

I think he should prove his oft protested innocence for the rape allegations in Sweden, then he should demonstrate his innocence of the allegations from the US, should he be extradited, which ain't a guarantee. In order of importance, I think his alleged rape and sexual deviancy is the worst allegations. Too many men and celebrities get away with these sorts of crimes.

I could not really give three turds balanced on a wombats nose for his alleged US transgressions, but think that the law is the law.

originally posted by: paraphi

originally posted by: Jay-morris
I am sorry, you cannot be taken seriosly! It was only a few weeks ago you were saying that he should be a man and face charges in America! Anything negative about Assange, you are going to agree with or believe!

Cheer up mate, and please don't apologise.

I think he should prove his oft protested innocence for the rape allegations in Sweden, then he should demonstrate his innocence of the allegations from the US, should he be extradited, which ain't a guarantee. In order of importance, I think his alleged rape and sexual deviancy is the worst allegations. Too many men and celebrities get away with these sorts of crimes.

I could not really give three turds balanced on a wombats nose for his alleged US transgressions, but think that the law is the law.

Also, far too many people get accused of rape, and are innocent. Even though it's quite obvious that these allagations are bogus, hater lime you will say guilty straight away. It is obvious that all of this comes down to the fact that America wanted him badly, and now looks like they will get him!

You keep on mentioning the law, and not being above justice, but you, and the poster above refuse to answer a question. And this is what makes you a hypocrite also!

So I will ask you again. You think Assange should face a court in America for his crimes, but you ignore the crimes by the powers of that country that led to the deaths of millions of innocent men, women and children?

Or do you think those deaths were justified?

Do not talk to me about justice when these sociopaths get away with it. Stop looming at them as mini Gods!

originally posted by: Jay-morris
You keep on mentioning the law, and not being above justice, but you, and the poster above refuse to answer a question. And this is what makes you a hypocrite also!

I think it's because - as mentioned above - your questions are not pertinent to the topic.

I am not sure you understand what a hypocrite is, but you need to look in a mirror, take a deep breath and think a few things through.

Firstly, stop the name-calling because that's just unnecessary and immature. Secondly, stop trying to derail this discussion by going off-topic, when you could (as advised) raise that topic elsewhere and vent your spleen. Thirdly, come back with a cogent argument as to why Assange should not - and never should by your reasoning - be prosecuted for alleged crimes, where in so doing he can demonstrate his innocence, or not.

originally posted by: paraphi

originally posted by: Jay-morris
You keep on mentioning the law, and not being above justice, but you, and the poster above refuse to answer a question. And this is what makes you a hypocrite also!

I think it's because - as mentioned above - your questions are not pertinent to the topic.

I am not sure you understand what a hypocrite is, but you need to look in a mirror, take a deep breath and think a few things through.

Firstly, stop the name-calling because that's just unnecessary and immature. Secondly, stop trying to derail this discussion by going off-topic, when you could (as advised) raise that topic elsewhere and vent your spleen. Thirdly, come back with a cogent argument as to why Assange should not - and never should by your reasoning - be prosecuted for alleged crimes, where in so doing he can demonstrate his innocence, or not.

If you cannot see the connection in what I said, then you never will. And the connection is just, and also important go the topic.

originally posted by: Jay-morris
If you cannot see the connection in what I said, then you never will. And the connection is just, and also important go the topic.

Two wrongs don't make a right. I can see the connection you are trying to make, but it's apples and oranges. Rape is a criminal offence and an affront to women.

originally posted by: paraphi

originally posted by: Jay-morris
If you cannot see the connection in what I said, then you never will. And the connection is just, and also important go the topic.

Two wrongs don't make a right. I can see the connection you are trying to make, but it's apples and oranges. Rape is a criminal offence and an affront to women.

The way you are talking, you think he is guilty, you want him to be guilty that much is true. Even when you look into the case, there is nothing there!

Also, do not talk about it as if he forced himself on her and she refused, but he kept on going. That is rape! One of the victims said he tampered with the condom so it would break! Why the hell would he do that! It does not make bloody sense! This is not rape! The other case which is weak too, has no evidence whatsoever, and is her word against his!

Being that America want this guy so badly, and the length they will go to get him, this seems like an obvious set up!

Every single negative story that has come out regarding Assange, you have believed! Your mind is made up, no matter what.

You hate the guy because he fights the system that you love and adore so much! That is the problem here!