Assange sentenced to 50 weeks in UK prison

a reply to: gortex

Yes, my bet is after 50 weeks he's on his way to U.S soil.

He seems to have run out of cards to play else one would imagine the security key for his alleged file dump would have materialized.

originally posted by: gortex
Gary McKinnon had Asperger's on his side so couldn't be held responsible for his actions

Actually, the Home Secretary of the time (a certain Theresa May) ruled that McKinnon should not be extradited because of the risk he would top himself. Had that not been the case he would have been extradited.

After careful consideration of all of the relevant material, I have concluded that Mr McKinnon’s extradition would give rise to such a high risk of him ending his life that a decision to extradite would be incompatible with Mr McKinnon’s human rights.

Gov UK statement to Parliament

a reply to: andy06shake

He seems to have run out of cards to play else one would imagine the security key for his alleged file dump would have materialized.

Unless he has more sealed indictments here, he's only looking at a maximum of 5 years which will likely be reduced down in litigation and shortened again with good behavior. Releasing the alleged key could make navigating a light term complicated.

The subject of the insurance file IMO has been misrepresented as well. I don't think they would release the key unless something went horribly FUBAR. Rather, the insurance file is kept on the torrent network so that if for any reason Wikileaks and their data are severely compromised, they can re-download the file and have access to it's contents. It's essentially a fool proof cloud storage.

a reply to: andy06shake

I think the key for his insurance file will only be released if he is in imminent danger of or has been suicided , I doubt it will be released without a serious threat against him.

We openly distribute … encrypted backups of materials that we view are highly sensitive that we are to publish in the coming year… So that there is very little possibility that that material, even if we are completely wiped out, will be taken from the historical record… Ideally, we will never reveal the key… Because there is things, like, … redactions sometimes need to be done on this material.”

- Julian Assange 2012 Heavy article.

It appears it is more for Wikileaks as a whole than Julian Assange himself (theory of dead mans switch).

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: UKTruth

He's not a journalist. He is a hacker. Big difference.

I think your view of journalism has been skewed by the advent of entertainment reality TV news. Journalism if gauged by western societies new standard would more accurately be defined as pundit-ism. If a piece does has facts, they are lightly peppered into opinion laden word salads.

Wikileaks has a 100% factual release rating, unmatched by any other "Newz" outlet.

While you may not like that they don't drum to the same beat as other publications, they are a journalist organization.

I can even make the devils advocate argument favorable for Wikileaks compared to other outlets. While other outlets interject opinion, present speculation as fact, and get caught outright peddling lies, Wikileaks may project their agenda, but that is through possibly (probably) holding back documents that are unfavorable to their cause.

originally posted by: paraphi

originally posted by: Gothmog
As he should be for any True US Citizen

Thought he is an Australian citizen, although he was also granted Ecuadorean citizenship. Not a US citizen.

No one said any dang thing at all about Assange being a US citizen
Are you OK ?

a reply to: gortex

Well, a lot can happen within 50 weeks whilst in a U.K jail.

They're not exactly the safest places in the nation, no matter what authorities claim.

He better hope "they" tuck him away in isolation because he does not look the type to fair to well in a normal wing nor hall.

Good luck to the Man is my thinking.

a reply to: CriticalStinker

Nice to see what's in there all the same.

Can only imagine its more of the same or along similar lines to what Snowdon already gave us.

originally posted by: UKTruth
He'll be out in 6months.
The Swedish case is not going to fly. They have no evidence beyond a he said/she said.
As for the US, they should be roundly condemned for indicting a journalist.

One more time so pay attention people.

The single charge against Assange deals with his actions with Manning. It is alleged Assange directly assisted Manning in bypassing security so Manning could gain super user access to classified info that Manning never had access to.

Now, journalists -
In the US a journalist is generally protected from prosecution when they print information that is classified. When a journalist goes beyond being a passive recipient of said info they become an active participant in a crime (conspiracy etc). Journalists are NOT given immunity nor does the 1st amendment confer immunity on them.

When Assange helped Manning bypass security in order for Manning to get classified info Assange was no longer a passive recipient. He became an active participant.

a reply to: Xcathdra

What evidence has been presented to show he helped Manning bypass security?

I think it is likely that charge is made up.

No idea...

Ask the Grand Jury who returned with an indictment.

originally posted by: Grimpachi
a reply to: Xcathdra

What evidence has been presented to show he helped Manning bypass security?

I think it is likely that charge is made up.

There is a chat conversation between Manning-Assange allegedly going over attempts to crack the password.

Those prosecuting are making the case that this was done to get more access, though Glenn Greenwald makes the case that this was done to protect the source from being exposed. Bit of caveat, Greenwald used to be a constitutional lawyer who may be loading the argument in Assange's favor with his litigating background. That said, the government has to prove the hacking attempt with intent without a reasonable doubt, or Assange is protected by journalist rights.

a reply to: Grimpachi

Spurious charges or otherwise.

"They" want a hold of him for something.

Even if it's possibly just to make an example.

Holding them to ransom via encrypted data files was always going to provoke a response, as it introduces a measure of uncertainty i suppose.

My guess is this is the plan to remove our eyes. Wait till it comes time for him to be released and he will have conveniently committed a crime that adds to the sentence.

If he is accused of a crime on the inside, he has no normal tools or witnesses to support any claim otherwise.

a reply to: Xcathdra

No idea...

I think you should have started with that in the last post.

You went from very confident Assange crossed the line to having no idea about any of the evidence involved.

originally posted by: Agit8dChop
a reply to: Agit8dChop
There's a new boss in town, I love Trump but this is horrible and he's made the wrong choice here.. but Trumps going to follow through and throw the book at Assange I now fear..

If Trump is making a choice against Asange, I'm going to guess it's a strategic play. That's Trump's style (which I have no problem with). His next move will be to invite him to the whitehouse for a 'summit" followed by indictments of the queen of corruption, Hillary Clinton.

duplicate

originally posted by: Gothmog
No one said any dang thing at all about Assange being a US citizen

I interpreted what you said in a way that you apparently did not mean.

Back to topic though. If Assange is extradited on the reasons given, that cannot be expanded out by the US authorities. Just want to point that out.

a reply to: Agit8dChop

There's a new boss in town, I love Trump but this is horrible and he's made the wrong choice here.. but Trumps going to follow through and throw the book at Assange I now fear.

Or.... he wants him to provide evidence which Assange says he has, of who exactly leaked the DNC emails.

Clue a non Russian DNC insider.