What if aliens aren't as technologically advanced as we think?

a reply to: bloodymarvelous

is it possible the aliens are only slightly more advanced than we are?

Looking at how the " Tic-Tac " UFO performed, i would so they are certainly far more advanced they we are.

originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: bloodymarvelous

is it possible the aliens are only slightly more advanced than we are?

Looking at how the " Tic-Tac " UFO performed, i would so they are certainly far more advanced they we are.

Being more advanced in one area doesn't mean you are more advanced in all areas. That's what I'm getting at.

Clearly their space propulsion technology exceeds ours.

But their computer technology, for example, might not. What if it turns out when we meet them that they still consider a 400 megabyte hard drive to be "state of the art" for a personal computer?

a reply to: bloodymarvelous

I thought that this was coming knowledge?

A lot of encounter reports described ufo as having rivets and dials as well as old fashioned switches and controls. They only started describing things like touch screens in the 1980s. Which is clear evidence that they are advancing in technology as we watch, if they were much further ahead of us we would we would have seen touch screens in old close encounters.

I've often wondered if maybe aliens really are in control of our governments, and using Earth as a technology farm.

Encouraging our population to grow to an unsustainable level, and then guiding industry down a narrow technological path to get us to push a technology further for them. That way they can use our 7 billion minds to perform research, while their own population remains much smaller (like maybe 7 million.)

It's an interesting possibility. (They, of course, make sure to keep us away from important technology, like warp drives and stuff...)

Anything able to come here, alive, through the vast distances of space regardless of time is smarter then us by a long shot.

Then there is nothing to fear from an alien invasion.

a reply to: bloodymarvelous

Well they might be less advanced than us in some areas but they would have to have a huge advancement in interstellar travel. Even if they do not reach FTL, they still have a way of crossing huge distances and arriving alive at the destination. We can't even manage to get out of our own solar system efficiently with remote probes, not even starting with human travel.

And as we know technology breeds technology, so their interstellar travel tech would lead to a lot of advancements in different similar areas which in turn would lead to advancement in other areas etc... That is why I would sat that if they do not come from our solar system, or inner earth (joke ), then they are definitely a lot more advanced than us.

I'd say there is no right or wrong for this answer. It has always been theorized that if a traveler from galaxies away can make it to Earth, then they would have to be more technologically advanced than us. That isn't always the case. As we know, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Yes, their means for transportation may seem advanced, but if we were to visit their civilization, we may find that their day to day lives are at a minimalist state. Different species have be just as advanced as they need to be in order to live on their planets. Unless someone of a higher technological state visits or trades with them; they may seem very normal to someone of the same technological level.

Now if your talking about the Lemurians; then I'd say that they are much more technologically advanced than what we are. The reason we may notice this upon contact is because they are of a human origin. So it's believed that they eat, sleep and enjoy things similar to us. Inside a city like Telos, a person would be in total "Oooooo and Awwww". Having advanced medical cures that allow you to reach over a 500 year life span would be the equivalent feeling of your first high school crush. Then there's the food. Advanced farming that produces food in it's purity, so that we're not eating a tone of chemicals would definitely feel nourishing. Then there's the entertainment. Most of us would be fine using the Holodeck to go on a space adventure or a casual date with the girl next door.

I believe we are very close to this day.

originally posted by: Thill
a reply to: bloodymarvelous

Well they might be less advanced than us in some areas but they would have to have a huge advancement in interstellar travel. Even if they do not reach FTL, they still have a way of crossing huge distances and arriving alive at the destination. We can't even manage to get out of our own solar system efficiently with remote probes, not even starting with human travel.

Everything looks like magic if you don't have it.

But what if the reason the aliens got into space is because they evolved on a planet the size of Mars? Escape velocity from Earth is 11,000 meters/second. Escape velocity from Mars is 5,000 meters per second.

nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov...


With it being so easy to get out there, they would have a huge jump on us with regard to setting up a big infrastructure in space, so they could start manufacturing space ships from materials they find out there.

With access to zero G, and a perfect vacuum, you can make things that aren't very easy to make on Earth. Perfect chemical compositions with no impurities. Stronger alloys.

And as we know technology breeds technology, so their interstellar travel tech would lead to a lot of advancements in different similar areas which in turn would lead to advancement in other areas etc... That is why I would sat that if they do not come from our solar system, or inner earth (joke ), then they are definitely a lot more advanced than us.

Maybe. Or maybe if it is too easy for them, they don't end up needing as much supporting technology to get the job done.

They get something built that works, and then they stop.

a reply to: bloodymarvelous

No. Just no.

a reply to: bloodymarvelous

yes Yes YES!

originally posted by: Specimen
Anything able to come here, alive, through the vast distances of space regardless of time is smarter then us by a long shot.

This higher intelligence loves to perform '10 minute light shows' over Arizona, then leave!!

a reply to: bloodymarvelous

No reason they have to be. Unless there flying here in ships of course. Otherwise we could be the most advanced in this area of space.

If there's even one other planet with intelligent life out there that proves there are trillions.
We would find them at all levels of technological progression.

We would even find some dumber than us with better tech and some much smarter than us with no tech at all.

a reply to: odzeandennz

In fact, all signs point to advanced civilizations dont explore. Otherwise, where are they?

Maybe the distances are just that vast? So vast while there are trillions of life forms moving around we will never see each other.

a reply to: Gothmog

What if even Drake's equation (which really was not an equation) was factored down now to the point no matter how many planets we think we see in the Goldilock's zone , there was an astounding amount of factors that say no.

But in an infinite universe the odds are always 100% that somewhere those factors said yes.
Could it be that even in an infinite universe that this only happened in one time and place?

Maybe life is so complex that it takes an entire universe of random energy and mater to create it even once.

a reply to: scraedtosleep

Imagine if we are all at the same stage and hit FTL travel at same time, imagine that.

STAR WARS

Nvm

originally posted by: scraedtosleep
a reply to: Gothmog

What if even Drake's equation (which really was not an equation) was factored down now to the point no matter how many planets we think we see in the Goldilock's zone , there was an astounding amount of factors that say no.

But in an infinite universe the odds are always 100% that somewhere those factors said yes.
Could it be that even in an infinite universe that this only happened in one time and place?

Maybe life is so complex that it takes an entire universe of random energy and mater to create it even once.

It is probability that matters
And , yes , there can be a 0 probability even in an infinite set.
Besides , we would be that one.

(shhh. You don't really have to reply to every single post on ATS)

The question of FTL vs. Near Light is just down to how much a society wants to gamble on future tech.

If your goal were to set off into space, find a planet, and settle down and have a lot of babies, Near Light would be fine. (You're not planning to come back anyway.)

We can do near light already, so long as the passengers don't mind waiting a while to get up to speed. The Particle Acceleratore underground tunnels that are used to accelerate particles, would work just as well in space as on Earth, allowing you to shoot out particles behind your ship that are going near enough the speed of light to give you sufficient propulsion efficiency to get going, and later on, to stop.

But you're gambling. If FTL turns out to be possible, then probably someone else will invent it while you're in your journey, and then beat you to your destination, arriving with a lot of technological advantage.

If FTL turns out NOT to be possible, however, you'll never have to worry about getting out done in tech, because anyone coming out from your home world to find you would spend just as much time traveling as you did.

originally posted by: scraedtosleep
a reply to: bloodymarvelous

No reason they have to be. Unless there flying here in ships of course. Otherwise we could be the most advanced in this area of space.

If you're implying that UFO's might actually be living creatures, then I guess that is a possibility, right? Maybe aliens visiting us didn't "invent" FTL. They simply found an entity already capable of it, and domesticated them?

Or it could be similar to how Thomas Edison did things. They just tinkered their way there, by trial and error. Perhaps found some mysterious biological substance, with odd interdimensional properties, and just tried different things with it until they got a result. But with no theory behind it, they have no idea how or why it does what it does.

Not unlike "Guns Germs and Steel", except substitute "creature with interdimensional properties" in place of "animals good for domestication".

Who's to say the aliens are traveling across space? Could be they are inter-dimensional.