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originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: toolgal462
They may have watched the rebuttals...... do you really believe that they would return to this thread and say... 'You know what... I think I was wrong to believe the Wade family'?
On this day in 1806, future President Andrew Jackson kills a man who accused him of cheating on a horse race bet and then insulted his wife, Rachel.
Contemporaries described Jackson, who had already served in Tennessee’s Senate and was practicing law at the time of the duel, as argumentative, physically violent and fond of dueling to solve conflicts. Estimates of the number of duels in which Jackson participated ranged from five to 100.
Jackson and Dickinson were rival horse breeders and southern plantation owners with a long-standing hatred of each other. Dickinson accused Jackson of reneging on a horse bet, calling Jackson a coward and an equivocator. Dickinson also called Rachel Jackson a bigamist. (Rachel had married Jackson not knowing her first husband had failed to finalize their divorce.) After the insult to Rachel and a statement published in the National Review in which Dickinson called Jackson a worthless scoundrel and, again, a coward, Jackson challenged Dickinson to a duel.
On May 30, 1806, Jackson and Dickinson met at Harrison’s Mills on the Red River in Logan, Kentucky. At the first signal from their seconds, Dickinson fired. Jackson received Dickinson’s first bullet in the chest next to his heart. Jackson put his hand over the wound to staunch the flow of blood and stayed standing long enough to fire his gun. Dickinson’s seconds claimed Jackson’s first shot misfired, which would have meant the duel was over, but, in a breach of etiquette, Jackson re-cocked the gun and shot again, this time killing his opponent. Although Jackson recovered, he suffered chronic pain from the wound for the remainder of his life.
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Jackson was not prosecuted for murder, and the duel had very little effect on his successful campaign for the presidency in 1829. Many American men in the early 1800s, particularly in the South, viewed dueling as a time-honored tradition. In 1804, Thomas Jefferson’s vice president Aaron Burr had also avoided murder charges after killing former Treasury secretary and founding father Alexander Hamilton in a duel. In fact, Rachel’s divorce raised more of a scandal in the press and in parlors than the killing of Dickinson.
originally posted by: Iconic
The sheer volume of people calling for his name to be continuously dragged through the dirt is pretty amazing. I'm not someone who is blind to the idea that there are plenty of weirdos and ne'erdowells in hollywood, but I do not believe there is sufficient evidence at ALL for Michael Jackson to be one of them.
Sure, he did some strange things like hang out with kids, but it's only strange to us. If you listened to his music or knew what he was about, it's really not all that surprising. Furthermore, if you knew his history and upbringing, mixed with even a highschool rudimentary understanding of psychology, it would make sense. But then again, the average IQ in America today is less than 100, so it's really not all too surprising that the masses cannot see through the baiters out there.
Here's a couple videos from a guy I love to listen to on the 'tube. He knows the cases in and out, and presents thusly; the evidence is none. The conjecture is mere heresay. The witnesses are just looking for money. The timetables are contradictory. End of story.
Because I forgot how to embed videos, the links are:
Part one
Part Two
Part Three