Christchurch shooting: police search for gunman after mass shooting at mosque – live updates

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

originally posted by: AtlasHawk

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

originally posted by: AtlasHawk

originally posted by: Kryties

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: Kryties

I think that murder is against the 'right wing' ideology as well.

I'm sure Anders Breivik would not agree with you. He was a flag-waving rightwinger who clearly had a lust for murdering young people of different political persuasions.

You do know what happened afterwards right? leftists used Anders Breivik as a scapegoat to further progress their agenda of diversity and open borders.

This will only get worse.A civil war in Europe is looking very likely

Really , at this point you think open borders in Europe is the same as it is in the US, you have no context to argue your point, its based in ignorance of the world around you.

Its because liberals in Europe would be using this as their scapegoat to further make claims that Europe must show that they stand together agaisnt hatred by welcoming more migrants.
To show how much they care about diversity.

This is exactly the kind of ammunition the liberals hoped to gain from this.

its based in ignorance of the world around you.

Its based on facts.

That makes absolutely no sense to me at all, trying to apply American politics to the rest of the world is redundant.

I was referring to the Euporean politics not American.

a reply to: AtlasHawk

Have you ever been to Europe?

Can you expand on your knowledge of open borders in Europe and why you think it's bad?

I need to know before I try and engage you on this subject..

Of course the media or establishment or whatever you guys want to call them wants to label and have everyone pick sides. They are going to spin this. We will probably never know the truth. Meanwhile, people are dead and there are heartbroken, lost people out there who are now devoid of their loved ones. If you think some of these people, or the grandchildren of some of these people wont find a way to repay that sadness and anger they feel because of this, you're wrong. We are animals. Nothing has changed.

so let me get this straight.... muslim fanatics can upload and keep their beheading videos online but if someone shoots up a mosque the internet shuts down???? crazy!

a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

Can you expand on your knowledge of open borders in Europe and why you think it's bad?

Care to expand on your knowledge of open borders in Europe and why you think its such a great thing and idea lefty?

When considering the majority of the migrant arrivals have being African men.
Mostly sneaked in with some Arabs.

originally posted by: Kryties

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: Kryties

I think that murder is against the 'right wing' ideology as well.

I'm sure Anders Breivik would not agree with you. He was a flag-waving rightwinger who clearly had a lust for murdering young people of different political persuasions.

Oh come on now, you are going to use extremists as the total of a right/left paradigm? Can I use all Muslim extremists to paint the same political picture.

Nonsense.

a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

I need to know before I try and engage you on this subject..

I am Euporean. I wouldn't be so shocked if you are for open borders.

why you think it's bad?

Just how many more white European girls or children do they need to be raped or killed to make you say its bad?
Why do you think the Italians elected the right wing party? why do you think Spanish Vox is growing again?

a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

For quite long while now i have being following the NGO smuggling and trafficking of African/Arab migrants into Europe and Italy.
What these NGOs have being doing is not humanitarian work but criminal smuggling of people. Majority of these migrants are men.
These men had being committing criminal offensives in their host countries and that is something you cant deny.

originally posted by: uncommitted

originally posted by: combatmaster
so let me get this straight.... muslim fanatics can upload and keep their beheading videos online but if someone shoots up a mosque the internet shuts down???? crazy!

Do you think this is the time and the place to talk like an arse hole? Grow up idiot.

They have a point though, to be honest. Why one and not the other? I can think of a few reasons.

As for tribalism and the perpetrating of atrocities I don’t think it helps anyone claiming left or right wing moral high ground. National Socialist policies were, at least in the beginning, fairly left wing - then we know what happened. The atrocities conducted by various communist states are legion - again, about as theoretically left as you can get. Then you have those claiming right wing motivation like Brevik. All in all the entrenched and massaged tribalism we have been led into, political and religious, can lead some to these extremes.

Until we realise we are one world and one people in reality, these horrors will continue.

a reply to: ARM1968

Until we realise we are one world and one people in reality

That is a nice Utopia that will never happen.

originally posted by: Agit8dChop

#UPDATE: Shooter shot approx 50 people and reloaded an assault rifle around 5 times in the video and then swaps to a possible sub machine gun outside the mosque

is says he used a shot gun. You can see it in his video. He reloaded the shotgun many times. It takes about 15 seconds to reload a shot gun. Why would he use a shotgun and why didn't anyone rush him between reloads. sounds like a second shooter was involved

originally posted by: AtlasHawk
a reply to: ARM1968

Until we realise we are one world and one people in reality

That is a nice Utopia that will never happen.

Oh I know. That will never be a thing. This is why events like today’s always will be. Pity really.

a reply to: AtlasHawk

So you got nothing, no experience just someone else's pov... Figures...

Peddle your propaganda to someone else I'm not buying it.

originally posted by: JinMI

originally posted by: Kryties

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: Kryties

I think that murder is against the 'right wing' ideology as well.

I'm sure Anders Breivik would not agree with you. He was a flag-waving rightwinger who clearly had a lust for murdering young people of different political persuasions.

Oh come on now, you are going to use extremists as the total of a right/left paradigm? Can I use all Muslim extremists to paint the same political picture.

Nonsense.

Mate I'm just calling it like it is. Breivik said IN HIS OWN WORDS that he was a right-winger. Equally, this recent idiot basically called himself right-wing in his manifesto.

They are saying it themselves mate. We are doing nothing more than calling them what they have called themselves.

originally posted by: Mandroid7
a reply to: Agit8dChop

Yeah that's him. I grabbed the video while I still could.

Pretty brutal.

I cannot find the video anywhere, only one video leading up to it.

Not that I wish to view it for nefarious means, I'm long over ogirshforums and liveleak, but it was streamed live, saved, yet, in the age of censorship, everything is kept secreted away.

You know, these good men died for us to live in safety.. not for some dirtbag pos to go into a place of worship and completely destroy countless of innocent lives.

originally posted by: SocratesJohnson
This is why you don’t publish mass shooters names, nor anything about them.

Don’t make people famous for killings

Media will loose klicks, but society will be better

Remember when the Boston bomber was put on the front page of that rolling stone magazine?

So sad of a story. Its like walking on egg shells. Shhhhh

originally posted by: jlafleur02

originally posted by: Agit8dChop

#UPDATE: Shooter shot approx 50 people and reloaded an assault rifle around 5 times in the video and then swaps to a possible sub machine gun outside the mosque

is says he used a shot gun. You can see it in his video. He reloaded the shotgun many times. It takes about 15 seconds to reload a shot gun. Why would he use a shotgun and why didn't anyone rush him between reloads. sounds like a second shooter was involved

He used a shotgun AND an assault rifle. I watched the video. After blowing away the people at the front door with the shotgun he switched to the assault rifle and started making his way through the building. He then used the shotgun again as he was fleeing in his car and firing it out the window.

originally posted by: gallop

originally posted by: Mandroid7
a reply to: Agit8dChop

Yeah that's him. I grabbed the video while I still could.

Pretty brutal.

I cannot find the video anywhere, only one video leading up to it.

I downloaded it a few hours ago when it briefly appeared on Youtube.

This is NOT my country.
This is NOT who we are.

Can not believe this happened upon our soil.
Our home.