Beyond Bigelow & BAASS, After AATIP and on To the Stars...

All right to get control of this new information and get down to the serious business of exposure a couple of questions and answers must be confirmed...ASAP!

Question number one? What is TTSA’s official statement where these videos on their first TV doc ( Tic-Tac video) came from?

Question number two? When and who first exposed this thread from ATS 2007—by the poster The Final Theory—here on this present Thread of 2019?

a reply to: mirageman

Sure thing....
Two pieces of evidence
1. Email from Kari Delonge stating that he was director
Credit: Blackvalut


Credit: Blackvalut (note resignation was cropped)
2. Resignation letter to sec. of defense signature "Director"



This data is not 100% convincing...This is circumstantial....but I would have to put faith in NYT..etc that they
actually saw confirmatory evidencing showing he was director...thats a basic level of investigative journalism.

a reply to: SacredLore

Thanks for posting the rest of the interview Sacredlore.

Okay…now um a go enjoy my afternoon brandy and tea my butler just brought to the parlor. When I come back, I appreciate some answers forthwith or we might have to get higher authorities (IDH-ETH) involved in this affair!

a reply to: celltypespecific

Could recite all this in my sleep.

originally posted by: mirageman

All of this should inspire us to get our thinking caps on GUT.

Found the info I referenced above.

In 2008, Dr. Green had moved to China to act as assistant dean for Asia Pacific of the Wayne State School of Medicine, where he was able to meet Gao and discuss ideas for a telepathy experiment.

Dr. Green’s idea was to use fMRI brain scanning machines to objectively observe and record human test subjects in telepathically entangled states.

“I want to put a remote viewer person with proven skills at receiving mentation from a sender in one magnet, and the proven sender in a second magnet simultaneously,” Green had explained to me, in 2006.

“I understand that you were able to meet Shan in China?” I asked Green, by email. “I am wondering about the experiment mentioned to me by Shan … Is this the same as your previous idea to use fMRI?”

“I had a great meeting with Shan, and yes, the experiment is the same,” Green replied, verifying what I had already heard.

In a series of email messages obtained by STARstream Research, Dr. Green warmly explained to various colleagues on both sides of the globe a concept for conducting a joint experiment.

“We have an idea, and the protocol, and want to extend in an fMRI experiment,” Green explained, “something attempted at Persinger’s laboratory in Montreal — and also at Harvard School of Medicine. In both cases we can improve on the experiment.”
Green went on to describe how the initial Chinese-American effort would proceed.

“The joint experiment would be a pilot study — at first with one subject, a normal healthy male in his 20s, and one outside the magnet in the Institute of Advanced Studies at Austin [former CIA-sponsored remote viewing researcher Dr. Hal Puthoff’s institute].”

In December 2008, Green and Gao presented their ideas on the quantum entanglement of brains experiment for the Chinese science academy.

“Shan Gao did a wonderful job today at his academy briefing,” Green wrote to me, “He impressed very tough and hard physicists. There are several who would very much like to work with us … thank you for hooking me up with Shan.”
Green would later tease an audience of dozens on a widely distributed email list forwarded by physicist Dr. Jack Sarfatti in San Francisco, shortly after the academy briefing.

“I was there because someone wanted a lab I am familiar with in Detroit to partner with Princeton University and Harvard School of Medicine … in an experiment using fMRI on quantum entanglement of brains … I had said several months ago I would support it if it was self-funded — except for my time of three hours a week for three months to read the MRI brain scans.”
The same month Gao and Green presented their idea to test telepathy using fMRI brain scans, Gao directed us to the results of an actual fMRI experiment by a group at the National Institute of Mental Health and Neurosciences, in Bangalore, India published by the International Journal of Yoga.

To our knowledge … Ours is probably the first fMRI study to examine the neuroanatomical correlates of telepathy. fMRI offers methodological advantages of nonradioactive and noninvasive real-time imaging of the brain … This study’s findings are suggestive of an association between telepathy and the right parahippocampal gyrus. The methodological rigor, isolated and robust brain activation with telepathy, and established theoretical relevance of this brain region with reference to paranormal phenomena highlight the need for further studies using advanced fusion imaging techniques (simultaneous fMRI, EEG, and magnetoencephalography) to examine telepathy.

Kit Green’s Mindtrap: The Experiment

My basic question is, is that what the experiment was really about or is there more to this connection than meets the eye?

a reply to: pigsy2400

Apologies to those that are knapp fans,

I used to be but that whole Skinwalker Ranch deal was the epitome of cheezy. I also found it curious who was promoting it.

a reply to: Willtell

Given that this is a 71 or more page thread (which itself is a sequel to another long and rambling thread) I can't say for sure who first brought up TheFInalTheory. However, the recent discussion about the original 2007 video thread was sparked by the sudden appearance of our new friend celltypespecific a few pages back.

The 2007 thread was first resurrected back in 2017 by Isaac Koi soon after TTSA released the Nimitz video.

originally posted by: coursecatalog

The 2007 thread was first resurrected back in 2017 by Isaac Koi soon after TTSA released the Nimitz video.

Anyone know what IsaacKoi currently espouses about the Nimitz video? He was pretty quick to hit that thread and his thoughts during his more recent return didn't seem to change much.

Since then, however, there's more information--to include more witness testimony--to process.

a reply to: The GUT

Yes I will pm you a link.

I know I've posted this before so my apologies to those that have seen it numerous times, but I think it's an important consideration when it comes to Kit and some of his associates. The following is another collaborative report that Dr. Green co-chaired and co-wrote. Emphasis mine in the below as I think they especially tie in to some other information related to Green, Puthoff, and John Alexander in some of their consulting work after 9/11 when research monies flowed freely for questions such as these.

Emerging Cognitive Neuroscience and Related Technologies, from the National Research Council, identifies and explores several specific research areas that have implications for U.S. national security, and should therefore be monitored consistently by the intelligence community. These areas include:

1. neurophysiological advances in detecting and measuring indicators of psychological states and intentions of individuals

2. the development of drugs or technologies that can alter human physical or cognitive abilities

3. advances in real-time brain imaging

4. breakthroughs in high-performance computing and neuronal modeling that could allow researchers to develop systems which mimic functions of the human brain, particularly the ability to organize disparate forms of data.
As these fields continue to grow, it will be imperative that the intelligence community be able to identify scientific advances relevant to national security when they occur. To do so will require adequate funding, intelligence analysts with advanced training in science and technology, and increased collaboration with the scientific community, particularly academia.

A key tool for the intelligence community, this book will also be a useful resource for the health industry, the military, and others with a vested interest in technologies such as brain imaging and cognitive or physical enhancers.

Appendix F from the same report above:



True and False Memories as an Illustrative Case of the Difficulty of Developing Accurate and Practical Neurophysiological Indexes of Psychological States

An important issue for cognitive neuroscientists concerns efforts to determine whether a person is reporting a true experience or one that is false but believed. In the last decade, there have been innumerable research efforts designed to distinguish true from false memories. Earlier work examining behavioral differences between true and false memories revealed that group differences were sometimes found (for example, more sensory details in true-memory reports) (Schooler et al., 1986). However, the statistical group differences did not enable reliable classification of any particular memory report as to its authenticity...

The military application of neuroscience research - Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists

Several of the cognitive science applications that have the most enormous ethical implication (as described by Huang and Kosal) contain advances that are being made even faster than publicly thought. These advances do not include lie detection technology, whose potential to invade the privacy of individuals is an unrealistic scientific possibility (I'm waiting for a theory of mind to be developed first!). They do include an approach to near-real-time, multimodal cognitive measurements to "watch people think" while under stress (an achievable goal scientifically) not under duress (an unachievable goal scientifically).

Not all of the "good" research will be done exclusively in the West--at least not before 2015. The results of this work will make sick people well and soldiers safer, but the technologies will not exclusively follow Western views on ethical questions, such as human stem-cell research, research on willing prisoners, and work on human-animal chimeras…

originally posted by: The GUT
My basic question is, is that what the experiment was really about or is there more to this connection than meets the eye?

Which seems to be a common theme in this thread.

Back to the N-word's FLIR footage for a sec - can we now be absolutely certain that it was never "Classified" in the first place, and therefore could never be "Declassified"?

PS: I think the evening heat here got to me earlier when my mind was being shredded by Cellwotizface's erm 'enthusiasm'. I'm not used to that level of erm 'manic passion' on ATS, so I guess I'm still on a learning curve!

If you go to the link above and scroll down to "Related Books" you'll find a wealth of information regarding issues that have become very important to the national security state.

One thing that rather surprised me early in my research is just how much damn interest there is in "Social Narrative." As in how to go about influencing a society towards an ideological objective.

It also becomes evident that they're not just talking about population targets abroad but at home.

I think all that information could very well relate to the thrust--and narratives--that are being pushed by the IC operation known as TTSA.

a reply to: The GUT

Indeed, I have copies of some of those books, so well ya know what to do, you can find pdfs of them.

Some of our research does indeed cross over doesnt it gut

It's these things that people should be concerned about, not perceived flying breath mints.

How does the saying go? "People are looking up at the lights in the sky, when the earth is on fire"

a reply to: pigsy2400

I was just thinking yesterday how sick I am about the state sanctioned ufo chatter.

Cases like Westfall Australia I have often wondered did they see something or was that a military operation of some kind as there was a base nearby.

One of the best cases gets nowhere near enough attention because UFOLogy has become focused solely on discussions about government drip fed syllabus.

a reply to: mirageman

As I a said I am Open minded and simple want DATA for further analysis...
The latest Pentagon statement claiming that Lue was NOT the Director...
I wonder how this will finally play out...
Credit Blackvault

originally posted by: The GUT
One thing that rather surprised me early in my research is just how much damn interest there is in "Social Narrative." As in how to go about influencing a society towards an ideological objective.

Which TDL seemed to especially espouse in the aforementioned 'Rolling Stone' interview...



And also remember, as he said in the interview, that 'Unidentified' is NOT about "Entertainment" - this is serious, mannnn. Or entertainingly serious. Or seriously entertaining.


Hey, GUT - remember the 1963 Outer Limits yarn, The Architects Of Fear? Let's hope Tom doesn't suffer poor old Robert Culp's fate while attempting to unite the world.

originally posted by: zazzafrazz

I was just thinking yesterday how sick I am about the state sanctioned ufo chatter.

Cases like Westfall Australia I have often wondered did they see something or was that a military operation of some kind as there was a base nearby.

One of the best cases gets nowhere near enough attention because UFOLogy has become focused solely on discussions about government drip fed syllabus.

originally posted by: pigsy2400

Indeed, I have copies of some of those books, so well ya know what to do, you can find pdfs of them.

Some of our research does indeed cross over doesnt it gut

It's these things that people should be concerned about, not perceived flying breath mints.

How does the saying go? "People are looking up at the lights in the sky, when the earth is on fire"

A tip o' the hat to you both. In related news, I find it interesting in the alien autopsy emails how Kit, basically, brings up the philosophical cage match of Globalism vs Populism. If I read it correctly, Kit seems to suggest we're kept from the question of "are we alone" by the elite who adhere to the prior.

But I ask myself: Does TTSA itself seem to have a preference--or stated philosophy--as regards that debate?

Interesting times. Interesting movements across the ideological chessboard.

a reply to: The GUT

It's interesting that these guys do not consider themselves part of the "elite."

Having a lot of computer problems posting here today.

Anyway, it seems this Alien Autopsy memo was uploaded to IMGUR and then leaked directly to UFO researcher and Maryland MUFON Director Teresa Tindal (currently @CaptSpacePirate on Twitter for some reason). She won't give any information when asked on Twitter about who leaked it to her and why.

A few months back Tindal tweeted a picture of her shared car ride with Zondo to that military and UFOs conference. Someone else noteworthy was in the car but I can't remember. [Edit: It was Hal Putoff!]

She has a cable UFO show of her own debuting this summer. I will try to find the name.

I only became aware of her when she surfaced with the other Young Guns on Twitter a while back. They seemed to all arrive at the same time around

the TTSA announcement.

Edit: It was the Scientific Coalition for Ufology’s Anomalous Aerospace Phenomena Conference on March 15.