Beyond Bigelow & BAASS, After AATIP and on To the Stars...

a reply to: celltypespecific

is there anything in the NYT article that could not have been published any time in the past 60 years?

If the president came out and said we have been visited by extraterrestrials, believe me.I would not be disappointed. But that has not happened.

As for goalposts, go back and listen to DeLonge's appearances on C2C and Jimmy Church. I'm not the one who set unrealistic expectations.

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What exactly has been established so far?

1. Governments have an interest in UFOs
2. Pilots seee things they can't explain.

Great.

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Here's another article from the New York Times... from 1959!

originally posted by: celltypespecific
TTSA's SECOND NYT ARTICLE IS OUT!!!!
GO TTSA!!!!! WE THANK YOU!!!!!!!!

Well it's an interesting read. But where does it credit TTSA in the article?

Where has anyone in the military credited TTSA with anything?

In fact it's like we are still back in 1952. These reports are nothing new.

originally posted by: mirageman
In fact it's like we are still back in 1952. These reports are nothing new.

Right. Except now it seems more people want to call them UAPs instead of "Saucers", "Disks" or "UFOs". So at least the name is changing, even if pilots reporting things they can't explain hasn't changed much. Technology has advanced about 7 decades so if pilots see something now from Earth, it could be 7 decades more advanced than in 1949. The NYT article even makes a reference about advanced technology:

www.nytimes.com...

At this point the pilots said they speculated that the objects were part of some classified and extremely advanced drone program.

This could be significant too, right? Perhaps suggestive of a correlation with some classified US tech that wasn't being tested too far from the US?

The incidents tapered off after they left the United States, the pilots said.

a reply to: Arbitrageur

I don't know how many times I've posted this now Arby. But they were obviously upgrading systems and testing stuff out during this time period.

Nimitz CSG Practices the Art of War at Sea -
Without Getting Underway

NORTH ISLAND, Calif. (NNS) -- Tactical Training Group Pacific (TACTRAGRUPAC) and four ships of Commander, Carrier Strike Group (CCSG) 11 conducted a virtual exercise Oct. 26-27 via secure wide area network and satellite, while they remained in port at bases in San Diego and Hawaii.....

San Diego-based USS Nimitz (CVN 68), USS Princeton (CG 59) and USS Higgins (DDG 76), and the Hawaii-based USS Chafee (DDG 90) took part in the exercise, along with the staffs of CCSG 11 and Destroyer Squadron 23.

"The San Diego-based ships connected via Link-16, Chafee connected via Link-11, and we all saw the same picture," said Lt. Rob Hauck, the CCSG 11 tactical flag command center officer and a key training leader for the BGIE-WC. "All the ships see radar, video, IFF (Identification Friend or Foe); there's no difference. You can't see the difference between real world now and what the operators were seeing during the exercise."

Source : www.navy.mil...

Also another page that confirms that the carrier group did not actually sail together until 20th Nov. 2004. That is 6 days AFTER Cmdr. Fravor reported his strange tic-tac sighting.

Carrier Strike Group 11 Sails Together for the First Time

NORTH ISLAND, Calif. (NNS) -- Carrier Strike Group 11 reached a milestone in training Nov. 20 when the warships completed their first group sail off the coast of Southern California.

USS Nimitz (CVN 68), USS Princeton (CG 59), USS Chafee (DDG 90), USS Higgins (DDG 76) and Carrier Air Wing (CVW) 11 joined forces underway for the first time to conduct group training.

According to Cmdr. Robert Hospodar, strike group surface operations officer, the group sail was an important step toward integrating the individual units and establishing lines of communication.

"Many of the ships were finishing up their basic training," said Hospodar.

Source : www.navy.mil...

That of course doesn't prove or disprove anything in itself. But it's strange how this 2004 case became TTSA's main focus. AAWSAP did not begin until around 2009. Why the focus on the 5 year old Nimitz 2004 case? In fact Elizondo never interviewed Fravor during his tenure as Head of AATIP. He waited until he joined TTSA.

Obviously some of these more recent reports come from different events and times. We also have genuine mystery that remain unsolved. So further analysis is required. But the circumstances are unusual.

originally posted by: coursecatalog

Has this latest round of Disclosure run out of gas already?

This is the "converting the normies" stage of the operation. Nothing "new" needed at this point other than more recent baffling events with some Navy pilots talking about it and "legacy media" doing its part to seed the public consciousness and give the subject some "validity."

The big reveal comes later---I'd say somewhere between 2 and 3 years from now. What will the reveal be? I don't know but I sure ain't taking it at face value. It goes without saying that this is just my opinion but I tacked it on anyways.

a reply to: coursecatalog

This is really interesting, i’ve recently been stuck on Greg Valdes‘s book and interviews strongly hinting/saying that Bigelow is the head of the hydra, kind of? I believe he said Gabe regretted signing an NDA and teaming with Colm to investigate the mutilations, Implying that Colm was a double agent basically. Also that Gabe had figured the big picture out before his death. Greg isn’t under NDA but he’s still cryptic, or maybe I’m thick lol. I do think it’s telling that we never hear about all the earthly explanations for many of these events from the Bigelow members. (as Valdez does) Spinning bs into “phenomena?!” Is definitely a thread I’ve been following through that crew. Greg’s book is so fascinating in its doingvthe EXACT opposite... straightforward explanations with supporting evidence.. plus NIDS hints haha.

I wonder how wealthy Nick has become off the back of this subject?

youtu.be...

Well not long to go to the big day now.....but the Champions League can wait..



Apparently the Premier episode is set to air on Friday night in the USA. The rest of the world who knows? It isn't even listed on IMDB.

But there are places where it has been leaked according to rumours (which of course I cannot confirm or deny) . A loose cannon amongst the Young Guns is supposedly the source of the leak.

Anyway if anything seriously ground breaking had been found then I'm sure it would have been reported by the international news media long before now. So probably not as good as it's being hyped.

a reply to: mirageman

A loose young gun. Damn have laughed.

a reply to: mirageman

You don't need to wait mirageman! I have the inside scoop and never before seen trailer for "UnIdentified"

Considering that Marvel and a few others franchises have started "Alternative Universes" - This long awaited feature film is no different. In this alternate time line, a younger UFOJasus charts his rise to subscriber stardom on YT that explains how he joined the 34th Parralell Advisory team. The team consists of Louise "Elly" Zondo, George Sleepy, Tom Schalong, Jed Canyon Doorbell, James Cathedral and UFOJasus.

What starts as a simple TITSHEY Team Building Work night out to Vegas...soon turns to tragedy!

You wonder what TTSA is going to fill their TV space up with after they finish patting themselves on the back over that splash of initial MSM noise they received. They will fill this first episode with that I’m sure.

Next may be Zondo running around with those specimens in his truck acting like he’s got nuclear waste material in his car.

What else can they do? Unless they totally surprise us with any new material, I don’t know what else they can do but rehash old ufo ground…or maybe have some guests to come up with new speculations.

It appears Ancient Aliens will come on the hour before them so History channel may not like them just copying Ancient Aliens themes, who are famous for rehashing old ufo memes or doctoring up new ones.

I wonder who the moderator will be. The AA moderator is first rate, they should use him.

They shouldn’t have Zondo and certainly not TDL to moderate. If they do, they might have to hook those two up to lie detector machines before they go on or at least a bs meter.

a reply to: Willtell

Its a rehash of what they have already stated!

Also, the increased amount of coverage in and on US media at the moment concerning ufos.

Well Good ol' Tom replied to a tweet, where someone was pointing out a fox news article involving Mellon about UFOS and Tom replied with this;

a reply to: pigsy2400

The content of that egomaniacal tweet demonstrates he’s more into self-promotion than promoting any kind of truth or disclosure.

a reply to: mirageman

NYT mentions the History channel's groundbreaking Documentary that is sponsored by TTSA.....
Reporting very new.... Its called signal intelligence....active duty pilots going on the record (not grandma)....Radar and video to collaborate expert (fighter pilots job is to id aircraft)..I can go on and on

a reply to: coursecatalog

Once again...this is new as we have radar...signal intelligence to collaborate the witness testimony.

a reply to: mirageman

That's not correct....
TTSA has many many cases that they will reveal over the course of the year.
The second case that's currently being investigated is the "GIMBAL" case on the east coast.
More pilots going on the record.

What you folks don't get is that TTSA is not an amateur operation like the conspiracy theorist on this site....
They are playing THE LONG GAME.......
They are coordinating The MEDIA (NYT, Tucker from Foxs, Bender from Politico,)
CONGRESS (Harry Ried and the folks who owe Harry favors)
PRIVATE INDUSTRY ( Steve Justice from Skunkworks and bigalow)
PENTAGON( several generals that introduce delonge to luis)

You guys have to think on a larger scale...

a reply to: Baablacksheep

Don't hate....
The man has to eat.

originally posted by: celltypespecific
a reply to: coursecatalog

Once again...this is new as we have radar...signal intelligence to collaborate the witness testimony.

Well, radar has been around since before World War 2, so how exactly is this new? Pretty sure they have had radar corroboration before.

a reply to: KansasGirl

That was the exact point of the latest NYT times article.....
The performed an upgrade of the radar tech. and where now able to detect the UAPs.
The current radar tech is more advanced.

a reply to: KansasGirl

That was the exact point of the latest NYT times article.....
The performed an upgrade of the radar tech. and where now able to detect the UAPs.
The current radar tech is more advanced.