Beyond Bigelow & BAASS, After AATIP and on To the Stars...

originally posted by: celltypespecific
THIS IS TRULY NUTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You can say that again.

Oh, you did... Tell your own hacker to stop double-posting!

I have no idea what's going on, and haven't had time to delve too deeply today (only popping in for short bursts), but if Big Beautiful Lue is being interviewed for The Black Vault on Monday (IIRC), perhaps it's best if I wait until then for an overview of the latest quake.

Unless this post has been hacked, of course.

a reply to: celltypespecific

No. Its the fashion been hacked in UFO land.😁

You are over excited Cellty!

Its sure amusing to watch when bored.

a reply to: mirageman

As fun as all this Pasulka stuff is, DO NOT OVERLOOK the post that mirageman made about the use of the human brain and Neuroscience.

The weaponisation of the human mind, utilising Neuroscience maybe what ufology has been about this whole time, maybe a few happy accidents along the way in terms of black aircraft and the effects their propulsion systems have on people at the cellular level, specifically the brain when encounteing certain fields; like electromagnetic fields.

If you can decode and encode what the brain determines as "reality" - there are some people out there with very weird beliefs, that would want to utilise that for non lethal weapons, what happens when we die and ultimately want to recreate occultist type experiencers; especially if they believe in things like that.

Humans are the perfect biological output readers no?

Ask yourself why there are more Neuroscientists and medical doctors of other professions interested when compared to astronomers etc...makes one wonder.

originally posted by: coursecatalog
So she admits she may have said these things privately in emails but not publicly.

These hackers are pretty impressive.

Yep it's in black and white. So she's actually admitting she said some of these things in emails but not in public. However don't believe them unless she says it in person

Do any other prominent individuals in the field suffer from this hacking problem? Is there a Hack Vault for instance?

I think certain people enjoy the adoration they get when they suddenly enter a field that struggles for credibility. Especially if they have 'academic' qualifications which adds a certain gravitas to what they say in the UFO community. But some can't take the heat when they get a negative reception because they aren't saying exactly what people want to hear. Or get a tap on the shoulder from the alphabet agents offering a "helping hand".

So this little chapter of the story starts to close as have all the others. With little in the way of hard facts and a lot of words being spoken. But those words being spoken are one of TTSA's greatest achievements right? No matter how much or how little truth they convey.

a reply to: pigsy2400

Defintely. Also it is obvious they have been looking for people who, for one reason or another, are able to "see" this pehnomena when others cannot, interact with the phenomena, maybe even conjure it, and whose innate abilities are triggered or turned on by this interaction. They want to weaponize that as well.

a reply to: mirageman

Do any other prominent individuals in the field suffer from this hacking problem

Rendlesham had an alleged hacking problem in relation to the binary codes if you recall MM.

a reply to: mirageman

Judging by the reaction on Twitter, most people seem to accept that she was hacked. Again, I am very skeptical given that this is not the first time it has happened to her and the fact that if she was really hacked by people out to damage her there would have been much more damaging personal and confidential information tweeted out. She uses pseudonyms for many of the people she writes about yet this hack did not reveal any real names or job titles. She seemingly has sensitive correspondence with Jacques Vallee, other UFOlogy insiders, prominent scientists, government insiders, anonymous experiencers and religious leaders, but none of that was revealed by the hackers.

And if she was really privy to extremely sensitive information then she should have been using something like ProtonMail and not Gmail in the first place (or using two factor verification at the very least). Especially if she had already been hacked once!

Come on, this is ridiculous.

originally posted by: pigsy2400
a reply to: mirageman

As fun as all this Pasulka stuff is, DO NOT OVERLOOK the post that mirageman made about the use of the human brain and Neuroscience.

The weaponisation of the human mind, utilising Neuroscience maybe what ufology has been about this whole time, maybe a few happy accidents along the way in terms of black aircraft and the effects their propulsion systems have on people at the cellular level, specifically the brain when encounteing certain fields; like electromagnetic fields.

If you can decode and encode what the brain determines as "reality" - there are some people out there with very weird beliefs, that would want to utilise that for non lethal weapons, what happens when we die and ultimately want to recreate occultist type experiencers; especially if they believe in things like that.

Humans are the perfect biological output readers no?

Ask yourself why there are more Neuroscientists and medical doctors of other professions interested when compared to astronomers etc...makes one wonder.

Interesting... along with SPACEX, STARLINK....Imagine when Elon's Neurolink company is up and running....
I think Elon Musk will bring disclosure....

Where have I heard this before...

Humans are the perfect biological output readers no?

a reply to: celltypespecific

Are you guessing Cellty?

a reply to: coursecatalog

She uses pseudonyms for many of the people she writes about yet this hack did not reveal any real names or job titles. She seemingly has sensitive correspondence with Jacques Vallee, other UFOlogy insiders, prominent scientists, government insiders, anonymous experiencers and religious leaders, but none of that was revealed by the hackers.

Exactly!!! At a minimum any hacker would download/copy the emails files to be posted at a later date...

originally posted by: Baablacksheep
a reply to: celltypespecific

Are you guessing Cellty?

Ok let me rephrase...I think Elon Musk if he were to put his mind to it could bring forth disclosure...he is literally transforming society as we speak from electric cars, satellites, starships, hyperloops, and now a brain machine neuralink.

This is the problem with this field..... No there are no "powerful people" trying to discredit DW Pasukla...

No one but "Ufo twitter" cares who represent maybe 1,000 individuals out of 7.7 Billion...

Lets hope BIG LUE can shed some light on the recent events.

a reply to: celltypespecific

I did smile. I like your comments on this one and tend to agree.

This interview is problematic......

Anyone following the saga closely between blackvault and TTSA should realize that Lue having an interview with John is sending a MAJOR SIGNAL.

The status quo was fine....what's the point of this interview.... it really does not make any sense

Why does the Nimtz encounter get so much mainstream media attention..... particularly on Fox News....

NEW:

originally posted by: mirageman
a reply to: zazzafrazz

Yep.....I am also wondering why now the self-deceased Mr Epstein was funding brain sciences as posted earlier in the thread...


This seems to be something hiding in plain sight on TTSA's agenda. But what the hell did "Pea Dough" Jeff have to do with brain sciences? $200m a year is not small change is it? The news sources have seemingly been removed too now.

Such fantastic sleuthing MM. I appreciate you so very much.
I've been thinking and reading on this. I think what is in front of our very eyes is clear when you look at this from a crazy conspiracy theorists perspective. I know it is mental what I am about to write, but #Show crazy is where we are.

Suspend your own belief systems regarding religion and phenomena, and consider instead theirs.

I asked myself the below questions, perhaps you and others here will come up with different answers to me. I turned to history to see what have secret societies (Templars/royals/church/state etc) scrambling around phenomena and religion shown us in the past in their attempts to control. We can't avoid there is a globalist/religious/occult agenda here...clearly there are Billionaires, CIA, Masonic and Rosicrucian factions drooling all over this just like the Nazis did.
Tribalism, we are telling the same childish collective story.

TDL was telling the truth when he said we are not a UFO research company. I kept that firmly in mind asking these questions. I didn't answer any of them applying my religious or agnostic beliefs, but applied what I think theirs might be.

1) What is the ultimate goal of "catching cloud Data"?
2) Do they want ALL DATA eventually or just UAP?
3) Are they aiming to interface DATA through AI with our brains? If so why?
4) What is the historical religious story behind "God knows all our thoughts" and who wanted to take Gods place in owning human thoughts?
5) What would gathering human DATA in to your control make anyone as powerful as a god?
7) Is this about money? no Melon has it, Rockefeller etal have it, in fact they control most of the money in the world. Does TDL need it? why did he just sell his copyright? Epstein funneling billionaire pedos money to the same thing. The motive isn't money it is a global control. It is about data control. The entire universe is data after all.
6) Threat narrative. Why project a false fear unless you wanna sell a solution. What tech can they put in your brain to save you from the bad alien/fallen angel?
7) Will that tech have 616 in it? ( lol I laughed at typing that but # me that's where this madness has brought us.)
8) Do these Elite bankers involved in TTSA or the Rockefeller Initiative etc believe they are of Ancient Nephalim bloodlines?
9) Why target "changing the minds of young adults?" is it that very age group that will be around when their plan comes to fruition and they gladly 'accept the mark'/tech to save them from the 'threat'? Are they "fattening the calf" the young to be ok with just uploading a brain interface?

Might sound like a bad Dan Brown 'Nephalim's Revenge' novel huh?....but is there anything there I asked that isn't a potential actuality with this group ?

Again, it doesn't matter if you or I believe in the purpose behind Occult ritual within globalist and secret societies or if you believe they are fulfilling scriptural prophecy regarding Armageddon, the question is, do they ?

I think they do.
I think all their ties to occultism, secret societies, factions within secretive Government is because they are vying for the control of humanity via the controlling of data and its potential Brain interfaces/observational controls because of whatever delusional Luciferian beliefs they may hold.

DATA is king.

The ultimate control system, waaaay better than owning the printing dollar bills. the 20th century control system they got.

Isn't the JV/Keel catchphrase relating to UFOS called "The Control System"
Yes it is, TTSA are officially in the mix vying for control.

It IS right in front of our eyes. Just look through their eyes for a minute not our own.

In a nutshell of all my ramblings above:
Is AI Interfacing the human brain with DATA their ultimate goal?
UFOlogts getting disclosure means nothing to them, we aren't their audience and they gladly admit that.
They are scaring young adults with a fake UFO threat now in order to later offer a 'safeguard' that interfaces human brains to a new control system.
"God knows all our thoughts"

To think I use to tease people posting about this intense globalist luciferian mind control stuff for most of my life on ATS

a reply to: zazzafrazz

What she said...well "nearly" all of it

It all depends on the authority or persons that would determine how such technology would be utilised.

The military want an advantage on the battlefield, Facebook so you can post with your brain and hook upto to mobile devices...people woth occult beliefs may want to "meet their masters".....and so on

Patents such as this should raise a few eyebrows;
Patent

A system and method for enabling human beings to communicate by way of their monitored brain activity. The brain activity of an individual is monitored and transmitted to a remote location (e.g. by satellite). At the remote location, the monitored brain activity is compared with pre-recorded normalized brain activity curves, waveforms, or patterns to determine if a match or substantial match is found. If such a match is found, then the computer at the remote location determines that the individual was attempting to communicate the word, phrase, or thought corresponding to the matched stored normalized signal.

originally posted by: zazzafrazz

To think I use to tease people posting about this intense globalist luciferian mind control stuff for most of my life on ATS

I've done that as well during the past 17 months (to my regret when upsetting some with my naive/newbie brusqueness), but, as you say, the important point is what TTSA and Co truly believe, not us. And I think you and others are definitely onto something.

We are truly in the Twilight Zone at the moment - or rather THEY are.

I expect Mr Serling to enter stage left at any moment, puffing on a fag.

Theoretical analysis:

They seem to be filtering unique UFO myths into the public noise centers which haven't gone that far.


Think of the pie analogy.

Every kind of belief system has a piece of the belief pie. Ufology is a small slice and TTSA is trying to hog that small slither of the pie.

Have they succeeded?

I believe TTSA has failed to get as widespread success as they expected. They tried to get new UFO followers. There I think they have failed. But in terms of co-opting the traditional UFO people, they have succeeded.

Indeed, it has succeeded in getting most of the ufo pie. Which turns out is not a big piece in terms of numbers.