Beyond Bigelow & BAASS, After AATIP and on To the Stars...

originally posted by: mirageman
Disney was approached to produce a film to acclimatise the population to the ET reality.

... Kimball challenged the Air Force liaison officer for the project – a colonel, who told him that "there was indeed plenty of UFO footage, but that neither [Kimball], nor anyone else was going to get access to it".

These kinds of irresistible 'close but no cigar' disclosure stories, including the alleged footage of "big-nosed aliens" meeting officers at Holloman AFB in 1971, are some of the most delicious stuff served up by ufology - tingling the taste buds despite zero evidence to show for it. They may as well be one of Rod Serling's own short stories.

Interesting how the IC approached Spielberg in the 70s and Roland Emmerich in the 90s to flutter their puppy-dog sad eyes at them for inflating the UFO story with 'Close Encounters' (1977) and 'Independence Day' (1996) (perhaps understandable in 1996 since the USAF were knee-deep in their second comprehensive report trying to lay the Roswell mess to rest). Thankfully, on those occasions the IC boys were given a two-fingered salute and ignored.

a reply to: celltypespecific

originally posted by: Sabrechucker
or the Aliens that have guided us for decades are tired of living in the shadows.

This is something I have no thought a lot about. I just figured They wanted to stay hidden.

But if They are going to out themselves and the government knows it, the gov may only have so much time to ease the public into it and would be forced into open disclosure that the gov does not want.

"Oh yeah, we have been working with them for years and we knew they were experimenting on you guys but we could not do anything about it so we just went along with the cover-up. Sorry for any relatives you may have lost through Them".

originally posted by: Willtell
We already know their scenario of “disclosure”. Many of us have written about this scenario and that the ONLY interesting thing about TTSA is the MSM response.


My opinion is one of skepticism that TTSA will go beyond the basics of what most already have known. TTSA is the point of this recycled information the above YouTube mentions. It is not something new but is filled with suggestive possibilities but little substance beyond what millions have already known. Its merely hyped-up a bit beyond the usual because of the MSM response to it.


So, are they starting over from the beginning and slowly going to disclose anything beyond the basic knowledge people have always had about ufos: that there are unidentified craft flying around our skies that have attributes far beyond our own technological ability?

That's old wine new bottles.

Its not just the media Will...Congress is listening....
"UFO Lobbyists Are Trying to Get the Truth From Congress, and They're Winning"

There's been an explosion of UFO lobbyists in DC—from Tom DeLonge to lawyers who demand that the president does a "Disclosure," in which he admits aliens live among us

“At no time do we or have we mentioned extraterrestrials. We are simply ensuring our government does not fall victim to ‘strategic surprise’ by the technology being displayed by [Unknown Aerial Phenomena],” Luis Elizondo, a former intelligence officer who was involved in the Pentagon’s UFO hunting Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program, told Motherboard. “Whether it be from Russia, China, allies, or little green men. Our efforts focus on the national security and technology aspect; not ET.”

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a reply to: celltypespecific

I would hardly call "two" lobbyists an "explosion" Cellty. That article / quote is also misleading, Tom Delonge is not a registered lobbyist.

I did like Steve Bassett at one time, his dogged determination can't be questioned, that's for sure. However he has been predicting disclosure since year dot and "this is the year" has seen touted since then by him too.

They rent an office at the national press club building and have a GoFundMe for their rent and equipment for podcasts and such.

The truth ain't free ladies and gentlemen!

In the era of whistling blowing......why no UAP whistle blowers (Besides TFT).....

The existence of UAP/UFO is such a significant word/ life changing knowledge....

Yet those with access to this knowledge have not yet leaked (except for Lue releasing Gimbal/ go fast).

a reply to: celltypespecific

I always said that if TTSA was the conduit for true disclosure it would be great.


So far it has not been the case. Its as if they are trying to reset the agenda.


Personally, I think it depends on who or whatever is behind those UAPs, UFOs, or whatever.

As I’ve always said

Time...

WillTell

"despite zero evidence to show for it"

For All of you who refuse to accept human eyewitness accounts as evidence.

For All of you who need material hold it in your hand evidence.

Please just remember this.

Two of the biggest corporations on Earth control and hide that evidence and they are not going to let you see it.

The United States Government and The United States Military.

Those two corporations believe in aliens, and so should you.

Have a nice weekend, drive safe, and if you see a triangle, please for gods sake, shoot it down.

a reply to: spiritualarchitect


What I’ve researched tells me if I ever see any UFO, triangle, saucer, or whatever, I’m running the other way as fast as I can.

originally posted by: spiritualarchitect
"despite zero evidence to show for it"

That was a remark about the Walt Disney and 1970s "disclosure projects" mentioned by Mirageman that never came to be, yet they remain fascinating and tantalising folklore despite zero evidence of said Disclosure (not a reference to witness accounts which have their own validity from case to case).

Unless you accept a few tantalising seconds of what is alleged to be a Real UFO coming in to land in the legendary 1971 Holloman AFB story...



Perhaps our resident ATS film analyst A51Watcher could have a close look at that footage - or should we leave it alone as a delicious enigma for those who are not 100% convinced that it's an ordinary aircraft?

UFO Lobbyists Are Trying to Get the Truth From Congress, and They're Winning

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In December 2017, the New York Times wrote about a de-funded secret Pentagon UFO program called AATIP, and revealed that several Navy pilots in 2004 and 2015 engaged in bizarre encounters with anomalous aerial objects off the coast of California and Florida. Eventually, three videos of “unidentified aerial phenomena” were released and have since been confirmed by the Navy as real.

Disclosure is about ET’s NOT UFOs.

…For years, Steven Bassett was Capitol Hill’s lone UFO lobbyist. He became a registered lobbyist in 1996 and set up an advocacy organization, the Paradigm Research Group (PRG)….

Whatever one believes this knocks TTSA out of the box. At least one faction of TTSA. Most of them have declared they don’t want to hear anything about aliens. Only Delonge has been into the Greek gods

Disclosure as a UFOlogical colloquial term has always implied disclosure about ET aliens that the government knows about.

For those not fully immersed in Ufological culture, “Disclosure” is the total and final admission by the government that extraterrestrials are not only visiting Earth, but that there is a massive government cover-up to hide the truth from the public. The UFO community has even taken to Twitter to raise awareness of the Disclosure process for the 2020 election with the hashtag #askthequestion.

This is the great mystery of TTSA. The scientist and government spooks are not into ETs, or aliens, just Delonge and maybe Levenda.

That’s the strange inner contradiction about TTSA. Zondo, and Mellon, for example, have said they don’t want to go that far. They just want to deal with the threat and the UAP attributes that indicate a threat.

But as I have been saying all Delong ( pun intended) and this article agrees, that “disclosure” is the whole UFO/ALIEN theory come alive through the government disclosing the reality of aliens and crashed vehicles, the whole mythological ET meme.

So, ironically TTSA is actually kind of in agreement with many the skeptics here. Of course, with the exception of the TDL faction.

Makes one wonder

Whats really going on

a reply to: pigsy2400

Hynek lobbied Congress, presented on UFOs to them decades ago.

It is glaringly apparent this group aren't about disclosure they are lobbying for contracts and monetization of the subject through whatever means. I can't understand how people don't see it?? It's painfully obvious.

They aren't doing any FOI requests, which appears to be the most effective thing to do.
As for paying your acting CEO 35K from your shareholders investment for industrial slag.....lol Go Linda making a quick buck. Was that his news from two weeks ago that was going to blow the world up? It's becoming painful to read anything on them anymore.

originally posted by: Willtell

This is the great mystery of TTSA. The scientist and government spooks are not into ETs, or aliens, just Delonge and maybe Levenda.

There's also Jim Semivan (Vice President Operations), who claims he had an 'alien' visitation in his bedroom thirty years ago:

It was one of life’s game changers for both my wife and me. The experience was simultaneously frightening, perplexing, frustrating and absurd. It was also both physical and emotional, although I am undecided as to whether there was any spiritual addendum. Almost thirty years later, I am still not sure what to make of the experience. What I do know, however, is that this event changed my view of what constitutes our collective version of reality.

UAPs are real. The Phenomenon is real. There is no way to deny or refute all the evidence accumulated over just the last few decades alone. But what is the Phenomenon, exactly? What intruded, uninvited, into my life almost thirty years ago?

ufoscoop.com...

originally posted by: zazzafrazz
a reply to: pigsy2400

Hynek lobbied Congress, presented on UFOs to them decades ago.

It is glaringly apparent this group aren't about disclosure they are lobbying for contracts and monetization of the subject through whatever means. I can't understand how people don't see it?? It's painfully obvious.

They aren't doing any FOI requests, which appears to be the most effective thing to do.
As for paying your acting CEO 35K from your shareholders investment for industrial slag.....lol Go Linda making a quick buck. Was that his news from two weeks ago that was going to blow the world up? It's becoming painful to read anything on them anymore.

For your viewing pleasure:

New from Fox News "'Tucker Carlson Tonight' explores possible evidence of UFOs":






Elizondo Says Some Pieces Come From “Governmental” Sources.......




silvarecord.com...

a reply to: Willtell

Yes . Steve and Tindal are busy.

a reply to: pigsy2400

No couch surfing for Steve anymore then? And Tindal is industrious , am sure we shall be seeing much more of her in the future.

a reply to: zazzafrazz

According to To the Stars’s September filings with the Securities Exchange Commission, it turns out those little bits of metal cost the company a cool $35,000......

“(i) One 1.75” x 1.25” x 0.25” piece of micron-layered Bismuth/Magnesium-Zinc metal; (ii) six pieces of Bismuth/Magnesium-Zinc metal; (iii) one piece of Aluminum that TTSA physicist Hal Puthoff already in his possession that is currently on loan from Seller; and (iv) one round black and silver metal flake that physicist Puthoff already has in his possession currently on loan from Seller (collectively, the “Metal Pieces”).”


“The ownership of these assets, which were previously retained and studied by investigative journalist Linda Moulton Howe and are reported to have come from an advanced aerospace vehicle of unknown origin, allows TTSA to conduct rigorous scientific evaluations to determine its function and possible applications,” stated a July 25th press release from To the Stars Academy...

It is unknown if Howe sold or donated the materials to Tom DeLonge. Neither DeLonge nor Howe responded to requests for comment at the time of publication

Vice

LOL! So Tom has sold himself a piece of Bismuth/Magnesium-Zinc that Linda Howe gave him for $35k

How does that all work?

Don't forget TTSA's track record on these materials is questionable. Originally Bigelow was building warehouses to store them. Then we saw Zondo delivering something to Austin, Texas and he just chucked them into a cabinet near the "Hoffice" window.

TTSA were supposed to have produced results on Oct 25th 2018. Why the silence?

Introduction/Background

The emergence of exotic materials has introduced the possibility of expanding the role of structural materials to other operational functions such as sensors and propulsion. ...A first step in this journey is experimental work to assess recovered materials for unusual properties.

To The Stars Academy (TTSA) seeks to outsource to EarthTech International, Incorporated (ETI) all analysis and experiments for the Materials Analysis......

Period of Performance

The total period of performance for the MAP efforts is 10 weeks....beginning on August 16, 2018 through October 25, 2018. All work must be scheduled to complete within this timeframe. Any modifications or extensions will be requested through TTSA and ETI contracting officers for review and discussion.....

Once all project tasks have been completed, the project will enter the handoff/closure stage. During this stage of the project, ETI will provide their project report to TTSA’s Aerospace Division Director. The acceptance of this documentation by TTSA’s Aerospace Division Director will acknowledge acceptance of all project deliverables and that ETI has met all assigned tasks.

Any discrepancies involving completion of project tasks or disagreement between TTSA and the ETI will be resolved by executive leaders from each respective company.

Other Requirements

The program funding is capped at $35,000.

TTSA expects only a task-level cost proposal to enable contract award.

Payment Schedule: 50% at contract award, 50% at contract completion.

See : Link

a reply to: mirageman

If the "program cap is $35,000" how are they going to pay for the analysis of said materials

Tom DeLonge stage banter at October 2 Angels and Airwaves show in Anaheim, CA:

Well, one of the stories I wanted to make movies about and sing about was a very controversial story. See, one year ago I was pretty sure I would never play music again on the stage, I was really sure of that.

Because I went around into uh…I made my way into the US government. [chuckle] I know it sounds wild. There’s probably a few people here like ‘What did he just say?’

Well, I walked around and I knocked on a few doors. And I said, ‘Hey — I have this idea. I think young people are ready for the conversation of a lifetime. I think they can take it.’ Cuz we have this idea that we’re all so separate from each other but we’re not. All the people your age in different countries across the world. I felt that if the government would have this one conversation it might pull us all together.

So I begged and I begged and I talked about all my ideas. And all these guys with all these stars on their shoulders would look at me and say ‘We don’t believe anything you’re saying but we wanna hear more.’

Well, guess what? — it worked. A couple weeks ago you might’ve seen a few articles with my name in it. If you thought that was a big deal — it’s not. There’s some big # coming.

I took a bunch of these people that I met from the CIA to the DOD to the OSD to some other places I can’t say. [chuckle] And they’ve all come together, and To The Stars…became To The Stars Academy of Arts and Science. And some #’s about to drop that’s gonna change your life, that’s gonna pull all of us together.

To celebrate all these things that I set myself out to do, for all of us — it worked — I’m gonna ask you to sing this song for me, goes like this…”

He begins “Aliens Exist”, though steps back and allows the audience to take over. He does interject “No they’re not” following the crowd singing the iconic line “We all know conspiracies are dumb”.

Source: Medium Post

Here's the actual video. Skip to about 8:06 for the section referenced above: