Beyond Bigelow & BAASS, After AATIP and on To the Stars...

Looks like TTSA has run out of material.....Its time for me to hibernate.
Cheers to all

a reply to: celltypespecific

Dont they have the Brenda Butler Rendlesham material to play with? Nick Pope mentioned it on his Facebook page.

Hmmmm. Enjoy hibernating.

originally posted by: Baablacksheep
a reply to: celltypespecific

Dont they have the Brenda Butler Rendlesham material to play with? Nick Pope mentioned it on his Facebook page.

Hmmmm. Enjoy hibernating.

Yes you are right...

a reply to: celltypespecific

And then we have these famous words.

I've gone on record saying Rendlesham might be the turning point in history that leads to the explanation of the UFO phenomenon"  
-Nick Pope, Directorate of Defence Security, Ministry of Defence

I wonder?

originally posted by: celltypespecific
Looks like TTSA has run out of material.....Its time for me to hibernate.
Cheers to all

Is that what happens in a "Post-Disclosure World"?

We hibernate?

originally posted by: ConfusedBrit

originally posted by: celltypespecific
Looks like TTSA has run out of material.....Its time for me to hibernate.
Cheers to all

Is that what happens in a "Post-Disclosure World"?

We hibernate?

Its coming....
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Here's Hal Puthoffs letter to the chief justice of India;





Now I wonder who he would recommend could "handle" this for them? Hmmmm....

Before the upcoming Two Year Anniversary (Dec. 16 2017) of Disclosure what have we learned?

1. The A in AATIP is for Aerospace not Aviation
2. The purpose of AATIP was to study UAPs
3. Lue worked for AATIP in some management capacity
4. Congress has been briefed on UAPs
5. There are multiple other GOV. programs/agencies studying the UAP issue
6. The objects in the videos are considered UFOs by the Navy (Primary goal of phase one of the Disclosure Project)
7. There has been a formal change in the reporting process for UAPs in the Navy
8. Gimbal/ Go Fast videos were captured on the same day Jan 21 2015
9. TTSA media business is still progressing Strange times series, Season 2 unidentified, books, etc


List of unresolved issues:
1. Did Lue leak the videos from the DoD?
2. Why exactly did Lue resign?
3. Why was the Navy granted anti-gravity related patents?
4. Does TTSA have additional videos…? Has the DoD sternly warned them to not release additional videos?
5. Most glaring element of the recent NY times story on Lt. Accoin and Graves, was the fact that they stated that the UAP encounters happen almost ON A DAILY BASIS…Where are all the other witnesses from the Roosevelt…there should be TONS of data that was collected during that time to properly ID rule out drones, balloons, etc.


On ending AATIP:

The former staffer said that eventually, however, even Reid agreed it was not worth continuing.

“After a while the consensus was we really couldn’t find anything of substance,” he recalled. “They produced reams of paperwork. After all of that there was really nothing there that we could find. It all pretty much dissolved from that reason alone—and the interest level was losing steam. We only did it a couple years.”

“There was really nothing there that we could justify using taxpayer money,” he added. “We let it die a slow death. It was well-spent money in the beginning.”

So why has AATIP continued and why did Reid attempt to make it a SAP:

'Since the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) and study were first commissioned much progress has been made with the identification of several highly sensitive, unconventional aerospace related findings.'

'Given the current rate of success, the continued study of these subjects will likely lead to technological advancements that, in the immediate near-term will require extraordinary protection. Due to the sensitivities of the information surrounding aspects of this program, I require your assistance in establishing a Restricted Special-Access-Program (SAP) with Bigoted Access List for specific portions of the AATIP.

ufos-scientificresearch.blogspot.com...

a reply to: pigsy2400

I wonder why the Pakistani government weren't written to?

Oh that's because this isn't really what it appears to be. This is a case of it really is nothing important.

Sabir Hussain was just some Indian guy obsessed by UFOs who started a petition to the Indian Supreme Court. The Indians are probably somewhat bemused by it all.

a reply to: pigsy2400


This letter is kind of scary. I am now afraid the US IC might be trying to stir up a war between India and Pakistan. I question his sincerity and intentions

For the sake of posterity for when the "Big" meta-materials story breaks.
This is Art Bell on larry king 1999 presenting his "Arts Parts":
Skip 3:15

originally posted by: pigsy2400
I have an open and honest question here, people believe that TTSA is a "distraction" and to a point I can see what they mean, all talk within the "UFO Community" (whatever that means) has been about TTSA.

My question would be... a distraction from what? (in your opinion)

TTSA has a very specific purpose....

What's critical is to separate AATIP from TTSA.
Finally have gained some clarity into what's currently going on.
Thank-you Keith Basterfield !!!!!

maybe uncle sam is flying his toys near the borders of india and pakistan and is afraid that a ww3 will begin

originally posted by: IMSAM
maybe uncle sam is flying his toys near the borders of india and pakistan and is afraid that a ww3 will begin

Maybe...but if you had 1/10th the capability of the Tic Tac you dont need to be afraid of any conventional terrestrial threats.

Why bother with foreign relations when you have (almost) infinite energy delivery/density/storage techniques and the ability to make a machine that can withstand instantaneous accelerations and stops whilst pulling 6000 G's?

The MKV was an entirely reasonable technological proposition for dealing with ICBMS...if you have anything that can mimic the Tic-Tac's characteristics - everyone else's primary nuclear warhead delivery method is now completely useless.

Oh... and you also created an offensive kinetic kill vehicle of almost unimaginable power/and or an unstoppable conventional weapon delivery method.
Or you could just fly your Tic Tac over your adversary and turn off whatever is stopping thermodynamics occurring...that would make quite a mess....

Mostly though - it seems weird to be in debt to China/throwing away good lives in the middle east when you have simultaneously managed to create the biggest gap in technological capabilities between human adversaries since history began.

originally posted by: pigsy2400
I have an open and honest question here, people believe that TTSA is a "distraction" and to a point I can see what they mean, all talk within the "UFO Community" (whatever that means) has been about TTSA.

My question would be... a distraction from what? (in your opinion)

Maybe it isn't a distraction....

You probably don't remember (along with me and many others). But at the dawn of the Space Age itself. Disney was approached to produce a film to acclimatise the population to the ET reality.

....According to Oscar-winning animator Ward Kimball, in the mid-1950s, the Air Force offered Walt Disney "real" UFO footage for exclusive use in a documentary, the alleged purpose of which was to acclimatise the public to the reality of extraterrestrials. When the offer was withdrawn, Kimball challenged the Air Force liaison officer for the project – a colonel, who told him that "there was indeed plenty of UFO footage, but that neither [Kimball], nor anyone else was going to get access to it".

Guardian Online

In the 1970s not too long before the Viking Landers were about to head for the Martian surface we had Rod Serling's UFO Past Present Future...

Rumoured to show film of a genuine unknown craft detected by Holloman Air Force Base....and a rather cryptic statement by Rod Serling about a time when official contact is made by stating...

.... “Let’s look at an incident that may happen in the future or could have happened already”

Then in the 1995 the bizarre Disney TV special scripted by one Andrew Thomas under the supervision of then CEO of Disney Michael Eisner. Who even filmed the introduction. It was an ad for a new Disney feature. But strangely only mentions it in the last ten minutes of the movie.The “documentary” narrator refers to the existence of alien life visiting the Earth, government cover ups and Roswell. He even goes as far as revealing that microbial life has been found in a meteor.....



Not long after ,the US President stood before the cameras in August 1996.



Every time a step back was taken from absolute confirmation we are not alone. Even though the 1996 Microbes on Mars announcement was probably not going to crash the stock market and cause the major religions to fail. Now there are whispers again about life on Mars....Cue David Bowie singing about girls with mousy hair.

Maybe they aren't microbes. Maybe someone got fed up of UFOs landing on their red planet and came to see where they originated from?



As other nations are aiming ever further out into space it could also explain why America has to be the ones to disclose. Maybe they really did find evidence of something out there and it can't be kept secret much longer?

GOOD MORNING

PHASE 1 of Disclosure as begun:

a reply to: celltypespecific

Thought you was hibernating Cellty?

originally posted by: Baablacksheep
a reply to: celltypespecific

Thought you was hibernating Cellty?

I couldn't resist.
Happy Friday! Baababa!

We already know their scenario of “disclosure”. Many of us have written about this scenario and that the ONLY interesting thing about TTSA is the MSM response.


My opinion is one of skepticism that TTSA will go beyond the basics of what most already have known. TTSA is the point of this recycled information the above YouTube mentions. It is not something new but is filled with suggestive possibilities but little substance beyond what millions have already known. Its merely hyped-up a bit beyond the usual because of the MSM response to it.


So, are they starting over from the beginning and slowly going to disclose anything beyond the basic knowledge people have always had about ufos: that there are unidentified craft flying around our skies that have attributes far beyond our own technological ability?

That's old wine new bottles.

As other nations are aiming ever further out into space it could also explain why America has to be the ones to disclose. Maybe they really did find evidence of something out there and it can't be kept secret much longer?

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