Beyond Bigelow & BAASS, After AATIP and on To the Stars...

a reply to: IMSAM

There is a Greek theme in all things RFI too, it will be interesting to see how this one goes.

listening now
Tyler Rogaway on Black Vault

a reply to: Baablacksheep



Well to be honest,and i have no idea how us society works and thinks

I would say this is stage 2


Stage 1 was some terrorists from afganistan that came and boarded planes and while shouting alahou akbar fell into the twin towers.They did it for religion,we vs the infidels

Maybe stage 2 is just that,but now its aliens.Delonge has tied religion in all this,not that he is wrong,i do personally believe these tricksters to be demons masquerading.But what i dont understand is why now.

Is something happening with trump and they say hey dont look there look here,aliens to deflect the public,or is there more going on behind the scenes?

Or is it they are just trying to create a new belief?

a reply to: IMSAM

I would say this is stage 2

Not according to what some woman *cough*Rosin*cough* said about what Werner Von Braun said. Aliens are stage 3.

a reply to: Phage


Hey phage,yes im aware of her statements although i cant say where she hails from or if her credentials are legitimate,yesterday i posted on that other thread about another of brauns quotes,Maybe ill dig some stuff up to see if this rosin-braun holds up


what i m trying to say is,delonge said all religions work because of leaders,dont fall for that,or something to that effect.Looks like a trojan horse if i ever saw one

a reply to: IMSAM

all religions work because of leaders,

Gosh. What an original thought.

a reply to: IMSAM

Stage 1 was some terrorists from afganistan that came and boarded planes and while shouting alahou akbar fell into the twin towers.

The 'terrorists' of course in the main came from Saudi Arabia. With a few others from nearby Arab nations. NONE came from Afghanistan. Bombing the Saudi nation to bits would have caused a major diplomatic and economic problems. Bin Laden of course was living next door in Pakistan.

But your comment illustrates a point of how an illusion is created and factoids can be sown into people's minds. A tactic which TTSA seem to rely on now.

originally posted by: Arbitrageur

originally posted by: Sublant
Not really.

As long as it's from the government and in one way or another acknowledges the reality of some others existing.

No one can disclose, other than those who might have something to disclose. If it's through leaks, releases, former officials etc. doesn't really matter.

Yes really.

In 1993 people were asking for disclosure about Roswell.

No, really not. I don't really care what someóne may or may not have asked for in -93.

It also has nothing to do with what we are talking about here and now or with TTSA.

Disclosure is not someone saying the same tihng, that there is nothing to disclose, once again for the millionth time.
This might help: en.wiktionary.org...

Now, government acknowledging - tacitly or otherwise - that "others" exist, is the paradigm shift that is disclosure.

originally posted by: IMSAM
For more vallee nids alexander etc check this c2c video,has some gems in it

some info on what you ll hear in above video are that davis and vallee while at nids found some patterns in the phenomenon,yes its physical(ground depressions) but also ethereal(ufos going into mountains) and the physiological effects on some abductees and witnesses(colares eg)

Davies didn't do himself any favors with this interview. Arrogant, flippant, irate, incoherent and offers nothing in the way of proof.

Well the 3:23 Disclosure Express has left Confirmation Station bang on time and it appears is destined to reach Da'at in not time at all....

The issue here is that those that are approaching this subject of "Disclosure" are on a timelimit now. The train is gaining traction it seems...

I wonder what will become of the passengers once they realize the wheels are made of cheese and the windows are in fact TV screens of the passing wilderness?

There is now a time-limit in place I believe and those that are the largest supporters of this current round need to answer the hard questions when and if the wheels fall off and the magician(s) behind the curtains trousers fall down!

I think I can already see the "blind belief" continuing even when their masters have packed up and gone home and left their followers fending for themselves, I would even state that the non-believers will pick up the blame for the "message" being lost and not translating over to the wider audience.

Some have gone in with a go hard or go home attitude, I wonder how many of these Young Guns will die with their boots on?

Wayback when the original Bigelow/TTSA thread was but a small acorn, we spoke of the odd aspects of TTSA in terms of;

"Brain-computer interface technology - Explore new approaches for the use of sophisticated technologies to promote direct brain to computer interfaces."

Whats also odd now is that any reference to this has since been removed from their official website completely! all that remains is one of the members of TTSA who is into all that lovely stuff; Dr. Paul Rapp.


Well DARPA have still been busy and I have mentioned this in my own "obviously awesome thread" (shameless plug)
My Awesome Thread

I thought I would share some of the same odd things that DARPA are doing in this area that TTSA were jumping up and down about in the beginning and now are so quiet about.

Can anyone say alien implants???? Naahhh I'm kidding, DARPA want less invasive implants for soldiers so they can kill people more effectively, that was harsh, but its the truth. Networking peoples brains directly with computers to..well kill people, err I mean,...help people who have been in accidents...yeah....that will make a much better PR release

“If N3 is successful, we’ll end up with wearable neural interface systems that can communicate with the brain from a range of just a few millimetres, moving neurotechnology beyond the clinic and into practical use for national security,” Emondi said.

“Just as service members put on protective and tactical gear in preparation for a mission, in the future they might put on a headset containing a neural interface, use the technology however it’s needed, then put the tool aside when the mission is complete.”

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So even though some have "ejected" out of TTSA, again, why is no-one talking about why TTSA are so interested in Neurobiology and at least at one point, has so many people onboard around this topic?

a reply to: The GUT

Have any of your contacts and folk you are following elsewhere speculated on what the grand finale cliff-hanger is going to be, cellty? Whatever concept they leave us hanging with between seasons will provide some pretty good clues to take a harder look at I'm thinking.

Not sure where they are going with this....episode five the Ramdellsham forest has already being covered in detail...
Episode six must be the Italian Ufo.....but unless they have a certifiable video of a UFO shooting down a chopter...I am not sure what's the point.

I heard there is a season 2.

originally posted by: Willtell
a reply to: celltypespecific

As I’ve said before THE ONLY interesting thing about TTSA is the positive media coverage that surrounds them. That is something unique but as far as what they have outputted so far, it remains very ordinary.

You want them to be successful? In terms of what? They don’t have any special sauce( save what I mentioned above about MSM coverage) so what can they contribute but this pedestrian, run-of-the-mill, drab, reality show documentary that is only a repeat of the many other ones, with testimonies of redundant material no different or new than now hundreds, or thousands of similar kind.

Wait and see if that changes. We're all open-minded but we see empirical reality for what it is and note it as such without prejudice.

Extraordinary claims demand extraordinary proof.

Hi Willtell,
I am like John Greenwald (blackvault) on this...I think many people support the CORE of what they are trying to do.

a reply to: celltypespecific

Is this show going to go on forever then? Sigh. You also spell Rendlesham correctly on Twitter.

a reply to: coursecatalog

Barkeep, another round. She said she'd give me everything y'know. I should have seen it coming. A fresh face. A new body of evidence. I thought this was the one. Not like Blue Book or Emenegger or Majestic or Santilli or Serpo or Condign. I thought this would be different. I thought this was the real thing. I did everything she wanted. I bought the t-shirt. Even watched Tucker Carlson for Christ's sake. But there's always some young gun waiting out there when your back is turned. You know, Lorca once wrote "To burn with desire and keep quiet about it is the greatest punishment we can bring on ourselves." I guess I'll learn my lesson one day. Keep 'em coming pal. Tonight it'll just be me, Johnny Walker Black and a stack of Jacques Vallee books to keep me warm.

touché...my clever friend.... touché

originally posted by: The GUT

originally posted by: beetee
So, credit where credit is due.

Unidentified is very well done, as I have said before.
It is, in fact, exactly what I have hoped for all these years I have been interested in this phenomenon.

Yeah, it's exceptional. 10 years ago I wouldn't have stood a chance. It's so good I experience some off & on guilt for giving these guys such a rough time. At some points I have to talk myself down because of the legitimate contradictions that most here know and that are hard to get around.

I'm sure Lue was pretty effective in establishing and maintaining his "cover" throughout his career. Which basically means he can lie with a straight face and exhibit the proper situational emotions.

That was true of Ted Bundy too...but Ted wasn't doing it for his country so there's that.

In other news, related news I think, I'm finding Vallee's Forbidden Science III full of clues to be gleaned and an excellent history of 20th Century phenomenology. Juicy tidbits about various personalities abound. Looking up any unfamiliar names and any companies or projects associated with them is a deeper education all by itself.

As in FS II he's continued to throw various subtle aspersions at Kit Green whereas Puthoff continues to get a pass.

Round and round we go, where it stops nobody knows.

Hi Gut,
The difficulty I am having with this.... is the NIMTZ encounters.....lets forget about TTSA.

I still don't know how to explain how four pilots saw a TIC-TAC up close plus the FLIR1 video and the initial leak on this website in 2007....

This is what's driving me back to this website...
I 100% believe what Fravor and the other pilots observed was real...what can account for their observation....

Interesting....

The demonstration of the Perdix micro-UAV swarm was held at China Lake, Calif. on Oct. 26, 2016. Three F/A-18's were deployed to launch the swarm of tiny drones, according to the Department of Defense.

The drones, which have a wingspan of 12 inches, can operate autonomously and share a distributed brain, the BBC reports, and could be used for surveillance. In the Department of Defense video, the drones can also be seen flying through the air like a swarm of high-tech bees. The U.S. military is keen to harness the power and versatility of microdrones.

The U.S. Navy, for example, has already demonstrated its Low-Cost UAV Swarming Technology (LOCUST), which aims to deploy swarms of compact drones. Another goal of the U.S. military is to develop flying ‘aircraft carriers’ to deploy drones.

originally posted by: pigsy2400
Wayback when the original Bigelow/TTSA thread was but a small acorn, we spoke of the odd aspects of TTSA in terms of;

"Brain-computer interface technology - Explore new approaches for the use of sophisticated technologies to promote direct brain to computer interfaces."

Whats also odd now is that any reference to this has since been removed from their official website completely! all that remains is one of the members of TTSA who is into all that lovely stuff; Dr. Paul Rapp.

Well DARPA have still been busy and I have mentioned this in my own "obviously awesome thread" (shameless plug)
My Awesome Thread

I thought I would share some of the same odd things that DARPA are doing in this area that TTSA were jumping up and down about in the beginning and now are so quiet about.

Can anyone say alien implants????

I wonder how many "experiencers" confused and excited--and told how special they were--would consent to & accept the help of a friendly and understanding neuroscientist?

The projects never ceased, they just changed masks.



And, oh, lookie, Phage has joined us again. How cool!

a reply to: celltypespecific

Being a neuroscientist, aren't you interested in investigating TTSA's deep involvement with your vocational field?

I would prefer a contribution from someone who might have a deep understanding around why TTSA have such a heavy investment in the neurosciences, rather than the reporting of tweets and TV show reviews which we can all see for ourselves.

Have you anything you can shed light on regarding TTSA and the heavy involvement of the neurosciences?

a reply to: Arbitrageur

I am also not convinced it's the same object Fravor saw.

The next flight that took off was apart of Fravor's squadron....and Fravor said it was the same object that he initially saw.

Again, multiple witnesses involved do not agree with each other and may as well be calling each other liars, their stories differ so much.

Yes but they all saw an object....that displayed flight characteristics not currently in our inventory....

The Nimtz encounters is the key to this mess....